, toward creating black entrepreneurs, a separate black economy, b black-owned business, more black hiring. whole variety of forms. the central animating idea behind a lot of this was the political pathways arere closed. but you have to do is explore economic pathways. change the sense of black power movements which we associate with the left and socialism. it is charles hamilton was a co-author withh carmichael of black power puts it in the afterward which comes out years later pretty set the logical black power is not w necessarily social democracy. but ownership independent black business and things like that. so really those two things the sense that politics is closed off to black people on the one hand. in the economy and capitalisty economy for possibilities for self-development self organization. makes herle way into it turns us towards jurisprudence a little bit. in the book you sent out thomas has two visions of the constitution. there's a black constitution is a white constitution. they both transmit very different messages. thomas reconciled the vision again i you described. yo

wage black laborers black workers. it's not that he's hostile the buck workers, but he thinks that that puts black people in a position of employment where they're dependent on white employers that to him seems all too reminiscent of the kind of political subjugation. they would experience so his real emblem of the market is the black entrepreneur and you know this there's a very strong autobiographical dimension to this or do i say biographical if i'm talking about thomas, so i'm not like anyway a a biographical dimension to this which is his grandfather, you know raised raised him and his brother was a huge role in his grandfather was a kind of a black entrepreneur sort of a pillar of the savannah black community and you know, he sees that kind of man that black male entrepreneur really is the keystone so he is sensitive i think to some of those questions. it's again, it's just it's refracted through the racial lens. all right. i think we have time for one more question. i save this question for last. it's a great qu

from a black ideology right seeing and living in this world as a black woman requires black women of politics to speak up using different kinds of tactics. one thing that truly chisholm was really extraordinary good at where's talking to her colleagues those that sometimes held racist sentiments people that odinarily people would say, why are you talking to this person? right this this is a congress person who believes in segregation, but she would see it colonel of good in someone or a good in their policies and try to work that work that angle and that's what black women in politics do right some of them, you know their idea. but there's also people who can be ideologues and then also work to bring a consensus to the table right and trying to figure out how do we work with people to get a policy pass particularly right with you need a majority you need a coalition to form things. so chisholm was really a stout as student and knowing how to do this that that she won all the time. not that her tactics weren't without criticism, but it goes back to this black woman's ethos right of un

that was places black people created, the black communities in florida. guess what, white folks accused people of doing things they hadn't done. do not tell us the government has nothing to do with what happens to us. the government does. this is a racist society that is set up for white people, not for us. we get redlined in our communities. we cannot get our houses refinanced. if you have got a home, you better keep it. they are trying to buy them and take us out of our neighborhoods. that is what has been happening all of our life. host: if you can hold on, we will get a response. guest: i am curious about one thing. it turns out, i am older than everyone who has called in and mentioned their age. i grew up in the segregated south in lord of, -- in florida. these conceptions they described are not alien to me. what i am doing is saying, look. you are locked in a prison. i am here. host: i think mr. allen froze up on us. he is joining us via zoom this morning. we will see if we can get him back momentarily. we have 10 minutes left in this conversation.

in that vision of black self armament, he sees a vision of black man and a black jerky, of black men being able to protect their families and their communities. there is a very residence the he closes out one of his second amendment opinions where he quotes from the memory of a son remembering his father on the night sometime in the 80s or thereabouts. remembering his father standing at the doorway with a rifle gun holding off white supremacist terrorists. and thomas says something like it's an emblem of salvation or emblem of freedom. once you start looking at the black radical tradition this is very foundational. this idea of black men arming themselves and protecting themselves and not just being a kind of mode of protection but an emblem of freedom. and that's at the heart of i think his black constitution. i can now talk about this white constitution which is ultimately both our condyle kind of unsettling visions. his white constitution harkens back to the original constitution is much more centered in the power of states as opposed to the national government and the heart of th

i mean duke had black linebackers back black running backs black wide receivers black everything. um done was the first black quarterback at this is 197. 0 75 and so i called the editor who had edited the two stories because he put it in the sidebar, too. and i said, what are you doing here? what difference does it make what color he is and he said john he's the first black quarterback dude's ever had that's part of the story and the funny thing. i was furious and the funny thing was when i was working on this book, and i was talking to doug williams who as you know, wrote the forward first black quarterback to everyone a super bowl and i go way back with doug and i told him that story and he laughed that and it's boy, were you naive? of course, they were gonna put that in the story one of my first experience with dealing with the fact that race is always there in one form or another and then in 2010 there were other incidents and i obviously known a lot of black athletes and black coaches through the years, but in 2010 donovan mcnabb came to play quarterback here in washington. a

and look at, of course, can't curry the black vote. there is no black vote, by law. so that's whites with the white president lincoln was concerned about, was stephen douglas. and stephen douglas, lincoln said, over and over again, what was he doing to racial prejudice in illinois into the country? he was reinforcing it. he was a categorical racist. people called lincoln, the plate the race card in the debate, if you did, and i don't think he did, if he did, douglas played the whole decade. (laughter) frederick douglass -- no, not frederick douglass -- (inaudible) freudian slip, big time! that's another pitch of one. by the name steven douglas's birth name, two s is. he dropped that around the late 18 (inaudible), late 50s, i wonder why? >> frederick douglass. >> anyway, stephen douglas was reinforcing white supremacy and lincoln was doing what he could to shape his population shake his constituents loose of that but just reminding something they knew in the heart of hearts, that black people had the same rights as white people. and guess what? there people. >> if an

black manhood and of black patriarchy.ck men being able to protect their families and their communities and there's a resonant image he closes out one of his second amendment opinions where he quotes from the memory of a son, remembering his father on the night, you know, sometime in the 1880's, i think it was, around thereabouts, remembering his father standing at the doorway with a rifle or some kind of a gun, holding off-white supremacist terrorists. and thomas said something like it's an emblem-- i can't remember the exact phrase, emblem of freedom. when you look at the black radical tradition, it's foundational this idea of black men arming themselves and protecting themselves not just a mode of protection, but an emblem of freedom and that's at the heart of, i think, his black constitution. i can now talk about his white constitution, which is a very unsettle-- i think ultimately both are kind of unsettling visions. his white constitution harkens back to that original constitution, which is much more centered in the

so i in the book chapter 12 is called black girl magic and black boy joy the resilience of black adolescents and i talk about the ways in which children of all races in classes and and particularly black children have stepped up and become a voice for change youth activism is absolutely thriving in our country right now. and so that is one way in which i capitalize that and so for those of you who are interested in reading more i started with eric story. i'm going to tell you as a little preview a little teaser i in with eric story and what he's doing and how he's engaging but one is that is is is the resilience of black youth i think the other piece for me is as devastating i think as the season has been right both between the pandemic and between racial tension and you know police tension with the african-american community and other communities of color that this is a moment in our country more and more people are interested in having this conversation, even though the conversation is hard we get more people in the door people who i did not see originally as traditional allies invite this

and we have to and that's but black on black crime. it's kind of self-imposed racism on our self you know, so we dealing with this and the ability to try to protect our children. at the end of the day because we don't know what's going to happen. is no guarantee. supposed to be in a free society. but we have all these borders and boundaries that we have to try to prepare our children. and that's my difficulty. what's your question? my question is how do you see that? i know i understand. you you don't have children, but there's no, no, you can adapt children. i just don't know the names of schools. i can understand i have children. i have people i love just as my i love my nephews just my great nephews and my nieces just as much as if they're around. i feel like they're my own now because my sister died and i feel like i feel ownership in them, but let me let me just say something to you and i don't mean to i don't i don't want you to take offense to this. because we can get stuck on media narratives in terms that we hear in the news a

in places like east texas and houston, black people are going to get together, freed black people and by what is now known as emancipation parties. so they can celebrate juneteenth. >> what is the significance of it being recognized as a federal holiday today? this monday, it fell on the sunday yesterday. this is the first year. >> it is extraordinarily significant both on its own and because of what is happening presently in our country they ziglar significance is the only american holiday that recognizes racial slavery the fact that racial slavery is key to the united states and american capitalism, american democracy the wealth that was created here, also, systems of inequality and systems of liberation that come out of that period of slavery that, on its own, is this massively important recognition but against the backdrop of 2020 and the murder of george floyd, breonna taylor. the protests for black lives and now with the january 6th hearings and also the anti critical race theory legislation that successfully banned the teaching of really the history behind juneteenth. it's more

of the institute of strategic black sea research, let's talk about the 27 years since the black sea divided between ukraine and russia. our correspondents prepared a report on this topic. let's take a look and then discuss. after the collapse of the soviet union in 1992, the soviet black sea fleet came under the control of ukraine, but some of the fleet's officers are supported the authorities from moscow rebelled against the ukrainian authorities, now as a result of the meeting of presidents kravchuk and yeltsin on august 3, 1992, the fleet was to be divided in half for the time between state negotiations the fleet came under the full power of russia, the russians also refused to leave sevastopol, this continued until 1995, the then president - leonid kuchma and boris yeltsin decided to divide the fleet 18% of the ships went to the ukrainian navy 82% of the ships to the black sea fleet of the russian federation the stay of the russian fleet on the territory of ukraine was limited to 2017. but in 2010, the fugitive president viktor yanukovych surrendered the ship base for another 25

it's so iconic to the black experience. and black women.ou're talking about billy holiday and all these great black women jazz artists who used to play right here. we wanted to make this not just a sisterhood experience, but also a cultural experience. this is with culture is. the culture is black women. we have created the cultural bases for wet american believers culture. jazz. the blues. all the things that we want because of our experience, who we are. we brought that to the table. we wanted to bring that to the stable. >> i love that. i feel the spirit of black woman in this room, but i do have to start this dinner out by paying homage to the wonderful, amazing nikole hannah jones. the way that you crystallized our experience in this country, our history. you are unapologetic. we love the flare. we love your flair. it's all rooted in history. i think it's really provided context for people who didn't know the story in 16 19. our entire genetic identity was taken from us. anne let me tell you your story, and where you come from. >> i wa

duke had black linebackers, and black everything, and dunn was the first black quarterback at duke, this was 1975. and so i called the editor, who had edited the two stories and put in a side bar, too. i said what whether you doing, what difference does it make what color he is? >> john, he's the first black quarterback duke has had and that's part of the story. >> i was furious. the funny thing was when i was working on the book i was talking about the book and doug wrote the story and he laughed, you're naive. of course they were putting that in the story. and dealing with the fact that race is always there in one form or another, and in 2010 there were other incidents and i've obviously known a lot of black athletes and black coaches through the years. but in 2010, donovan mcnabb came to play quarterback in washington and in the eighth game of the season against the detroit lions he'd taken every snap and washington fell behind 30-25 at the two minute warning and they took the kickoff and rex grossman, the immortal rex grossman, you probably remember. >> the very last super bowl. >> a

women gained the right vote, black men did in 1870. black u.s. senators, representatives -- by 1890 they had the literacy test, grandfather clause and poll tax. what we need to gain from history, we need to be prepared for the backlash. the backlash of violence in the backlash of law. this is what this book tells you. if you follow it, you see. two steps forward, one step back. are we prepared for the backlash that these women are basically telling us that this is what is going to happen. or are we going to sit back and react to it and go, oh my god, i can believe this happened? and so, history has told us the game plan. are we going to step up with the courage to be a part of our protection and the solution? so we can do more than these women did, because they had far less. we need to stop moaning and complaining, and realize, if these women can do what they did with far less, then there's a whole lot more we need to do. >> i need to say something again that you said. this backlash. the backlash, say it again? >> the backlash is coming. each tim

had black us senators black us representatives. we had all the power by 1890. they had a literacy test grandfather clause and poll tax. so what we need to gain from history. we need to be prepared for the backlash the backlash of violence and the backlash of law. and so this is what this book tells you. if you follow it, you see two steps forward one step back. are we prepared for the backlash that these women are basically telling us that this is what's going to happen or we're going to sit back and react to it and go. oh my god, i can't believe this happened. so history has told us to gain plan. are we gonna step up with the courage to be a part of our protection and the solution so we can do more than these women did because they had far less. so we need to stop moaning and complaining and realize if these women could do what they did with far less than as a whole lot more we need to do. i need you to say something again that you said that this backlash the backlash. say it again. the backlash is coming each time. there's progre

i had to ride in black taxis. went to black schools. i went to black churches.ck playground. my father was a caretaker of the larmgest playground for riches in richmond, virginia. the house came with the job on the playground and four tennis courts just ten yards away. literally. >> we live on the playground. why do you want to play tennis? he said to me i want to be the jackie robinson of tennis. >> it suited me mentally. that was almost serendipity in a way. i would begin right there in the playground. ♪ i am fascinated by what people are. that one moment when their life changed completely. mine happened when i was 10 years old. on the courts next to my house in richmond, virginia, during an idle moment when the courts weren't being used and dr. johnson saw me during that moment. >> dr. johnson had been a physician. he built a tennis court in his backyard and started a junior development program for young black kids in the early '50s helping gibson to be terrific. >> if you were black and wanted to be good in tennis you had to go to dr. johnson. you get there

wage, black laborers, black workers. it's not that he's hostile to black workers, but he thinks that that puts black people many a position of employment where they'repl dependent on white employers that, to him, seems all too reminiscent of the political subjugation they would experience. so his real emblem of the market is the black entrepreneur. >> yeah. >> there's a very strong autobiographical to this -- anyway, which is his grandfather, you know, raised him and his brother, was a huge role. and his grandfather was a kind of black entrepreneur, sort of a pillar of the black community, and, you know, he sees that kind ofla man, that black male entrepreneur really is the keystone. so he is sensitive, i think, to some of those questions. again, it's refracted through the racial lens. >> i think we have time for one more question, and i saved this question for last, it's a great questionsk whoever asked it. was thomas upset that mookie threw the trash can? [laughter] >> do the right thing. >> but really. i mean, i kind

identified as black.when it was already low, so for a long time since last month we only had one black coach in the nfl unit that was mike tomlin and he still has a job. it's hard to fire him at this point. i ask folks, and i leaned on both of these heavily in my reporting as you can tell in reading the book, why wouldn't roger goodale talk to me -- because i've known him since he first got the job and i've got along fine with him. i was turned down flat. i interviewed every other major commission but was turned down by roger goodell. ironically, the day he put up a statement it was almost word for word the e-mail that i got from brian mccarthy, the nfl pr guy on why he wouldn't speak to me. roger is very busy trying to promote diversity blah blah blah. as i said to him why wouldn't he talk to me and they both said the same thing. he's embarrassed. i don't think roger goodale is about a guy, but he's paid $40 million a year. >> so doug williams wrote the foreword to the book and said if this were to be wr

in the north who want to be recruiters for black soldiers. and then, after blackmon joined the union army, some people go to the white house to push lincoln to make sure the black soldiers get a quality. on that, point another chapter focuses on three delegations of african americans who travel from the south to push lincoln to support black suffrage. and so, one of the things that you can see is that the teams kind of change overtime, as new issues arise in the war there's different themes that i was able to focus chapters on. >> yeah, i noticed that and i found it very intriguing that there are different reasons why people visit with him. so, it's going to be important for different reasons. okay, he spent a lot of time collecting these letters, right? that means you bring a lot of new primary source information to the question. but we started with at least one, well, several publish sources, but one crucial published source that, to begin with, was everybody's source about lincoln and african americans in the white house. and that is a sto

and so these are black men.who've proven themselves not only to be loyal to the union but to be brave and correct courageous and lincoln was not so certain that they could do that initially. in fact, he had said if we bring black men into the army, they will not be able to stand on the battlefield against their former owners. and they will run. and throw down their weapons along the way so this is a major transformation from where he was early in the war to 18 to the summer of 1863 once black men had served successfully in the union army. yeah, you know one of the earliest letters from an african-american to lincoln, that's held it the library of congress is a black new yorker who offers his services to help recruit soldiers and that is ignored in april of 1861. it's interesting. it's another letter where he's not asking for something but he's offering and this issue of pay was ubiquitous in the correspondence from african-americans. i have a whole chapter in the book of of this pay issue and then it runs throug

that was totally done to the blacks. slavery is stealing from you that you force to pay for something else. that is slavery. that is stealing. stealing the slavery. that's all we do in this country. we forcefully steal and give it to others. we want to give it to who we think should have it more than you. host: can you respond? guest: in terms of biblical interpretation, there are parts of the bible to talk about forgiveness, even when you go to the new testament and you look at jesus in the temple of the moneylenders, he is ringing the sword and the shield in terms of trying to move out exploitation. he wants a reckoning. when we read about the apostles and their recollections of jesus, he was a prophet of transformation who brought the world to its knees because he is so interested in justice and reparations for those who been left behind. it depends on how we are going to interpret that. i do believe in forgiveness. you cannot have forgiveness without truth and justice. a lot of this is in public. when we think about

well, yes, the black angel wears black.ck clothes. girls just don't say that the blood matches his blood type, if not for the first time. now hold. he has a new toy that the dog sees and reacts in the event that ants or termites are wound up in the house, call the dezin sector. definitely you can’t shake off the drops after washing , this is a bad omen so evil spirits multiply, that that i say, you can't stand like this. all victims of the black angel are young girls and the signature each time one of the seven deadly sins the first victim is envy greetings greetings tell me how did it happen that a dangerous criminal escaped from the zone. we are not talking about it in a dream, not in spirit, you have such humor. we have a complete order, downright complete downright complete, i can’t run around here 2 years ago. this was an isolated case. well, okay. he who is escaping arranges going. the prisoner grobovsky, nicknamed the black angel, knows this, but not say that he is still in the territory of the zone. certainly not a

three meetings with black delegations, and he shows real support for black suffrage when he meets with them johnson sees douglas and his fellow delegates as way out of line and when they walk out johnson calls him the n word and says that douglas would slit a white man's throat and by the time you get to the grant presidency the idea of black men and women coming to the white house for social occasions is completely gone. and so i found an episode that i describe right before a social gathering a servant comes in and meets with julia dent grant and says what happens if black people come are are we to let them in and julia grant says well, it's my party. yes, they can come in and no one came and as you move into the late 19th century fewer and fewer black people enter the white house as citizens to meet with the president by the time you get to 1901 when teddy roosevelt invites booker t, washington the story of black people coming to the white house as guests has been completely forgotten and southern newspapers respond without rage at what they see is an unprecedented welcoming of afri

we know that your black is magic, that your black belongs, so be black, be bold, be beautiful. is at work. in the daytime you see a whole lot of culture but now when the light goes on in the mission you see a whole lot of ah, ah -- vultures. and the only thing that we got was boba and sparkling soda and covid and burritos and we got see yo fris co. they think that black people out here eat ricearoni, no, bro. being black in san francisco is like riding the cable car, you pay a lot but you don't get very far. [applause] because you know that san francisco is the same size as disneyworld but we divided into two different worlds because on one side of the industry you have keen streets and no beats where robin williams used to live at. where we live at we pack heat and we don't got no comic relief. i live in a war zone, a tore zone and i have creditors that won't leave us alone. i don't know if y'all know that there used to be a neighborhood in frisco called philmore. and it ain't filled up no more and that's why it's called the mo as in no mo. they used to call us the harm harlem

will we the black voices, black professors black students out of conversations by not educating people. we lose our history because were only told one person and that is a version that is palatable to people in the classroom. it has been historically right and it's an idea ofde sanitizing of what american history is, the revolutionary war and stuff happens you have the civil war and then in barack obama until the deer path of progress. maintaining to clint's point and how you build an identity around the story that allows for a very straight line view of american history at the glorification of our founding is a need to make this place more exceptional even if there's a struggle there's always denied towards progress and it ignores the fact that reconstruction happened but you also have the civil rights in s the southern strategy and that progress is met with the intense pushback. ticket 1871 when alcorn state university was created a black college in mississippi in at least a decade.00 $15000 a year, year later they reduced it to $5500 here. we would rather resign than this college cl

southern black workers. moving north during the great migrations the unions and in the north and in management in the war and in the north did not want the competition for they don't last filling these jobs the politicians in the north in one black spilling these jobs, and these minimum wage laws were put in in part to price blacks out of labor come out arguing that that's why people favor them today, but my point is that they're having a similar effect regardless of the attempt of the intent that they are disproportionately harmful to to to blacks and i bring that up because we recently having a debate about whether the filibuster was was a racist because it was used to block civil rights legislation in the past and i and i think if you're gonna play that game you can talk about the origins of a lot of laws that are in place today including the minimum wage laws having a a sort of tarnished history. yeah, so i i think we're coming up on the last few minutes here. i think, you know first of all congratulatio

the country can move toward greater polarization black them on black people and white people among white filled with hatred towards each other or we can make an effort as martin luther king did to comprehend to replace that violence that standard bloodshed that has spread across the land with an effort to understand with compassion and love and in the course of the speech he mentions. because it appears at a white man killed. dr. king and if you if you want to be angry with all white men that you know, that's understandable, but i lost a brother and he was killed by a white man. it's the only time robert kennedy ever mentioned his brother's murder or assassination in public, but he felt it was a kid, you know some kind of a anyway, i urge you to look at the speech and read it and and he went on from there and as you know, so he goes on he stopped campaigning the next day he gave he canceled all events until kings funeral, but the next day he gave one more talk in the city club of cleveland on the mindless menace of violence. and it speaks to what happened there. it talks about the violen

black community in tulsa, these people were the core of black entrepreneurship. people call it the black wall street. >> like putting harlem, bourbon street, and chocolate city all in one place. >> but white paulsons talked about it as little africa or land. >> tulsa was a powder keg, needing only something to set the community alight. between 100 and 300 people, most of them black, were killed. today we call it a massacre. they were hastily trying to get rid of the bodies. by dumping them in mass graves around the city. >> we of tulsa of an undetermined number, it should have not taken any nine years. >> anyone who thinks this crime scene is not going to speak does not have the ears to hear. the earth is shaking. >> i came to tulsa when i was in the sixth grade, so that has been well, i don't know how many years. my mother is from oklahoma. and there was a strong black community in tulsa called greenwood. these people were the core of black entrepreneurship. and they would help you get your business started. 1920 greenwood was booming. people called it the black

♪ jessica: the mother of two young black men, she wrote a song called "black lives matter."fearful, every time my kids leave out the door. where are you going and who are you going with? ♪ some of my white friends will say, “oh not this is not happening and it's not that bad.” or this just hurts me to the core, when my white friends say, “you know, you just need to stop talking about it. if you just talk about it too much.” ♪ kevin mclaughlin: there's a not a lot of compromise because we don't spend time understand the other perspectives. jessica: from kansas city to st. louis, in the suburbs, retired navy pilot, kevin mclaughlin. kevin: spending 31 years in the military and deploying six times. the answer is, i feel most american when i am not in america and seeing how other countries and other cultures live. it really makes you appreciate what you have. jessica: mclaughlin, who led the missing man formation as president george h w bush was laid to rest, says his years in the military taught him the value of all that makes up this country. kevin: the whole is much greater t

well homes is the avatar of the black quarterback, but for years blacks were shunted to the marginal positions. yes, they played running back and the split ends and you were a an ended morgan state. were you not bill roden didn't you play i pretended to be yes. okay. well, i i read your book and i know you were a better athlete than you thought admit to but here is the the deal. the blacks were denied representation at the higher levels just before jackie died. he pleaded for a black coach or manager on the third baseline when he was honored for the 25th anniversary of his pioneering effort. in cincinnati at the world series and a few a few days later, i think was 19 days. he died. you might say of a broken heart. yeah, so we're gonna we're gonna get to that a little later on. let's go to slide number two as we now now this is a jackie robinson comic book a front page to your left and and first page on your rights dated 1950. what do you guys now again? kind of get into our theme of here's this guy i who is is the first to break through and by 1950. he's got a comic book and it's not

with blacks or whites. and so i think blacks remember how bad things were under trump when they saw a fatter paycheck, when they saw how plentiful the job market was i think they gave trump credit for that and that's part of the reason i believe he did better in 2020. he was focused on reopening the economy quickly after covid hit and of course a lot of these were service sector workers. they can work from home during the lockdowns. and they wanted to get back to work and trump was in favor of reopening the economy and i think that we rebounded to his benefit when it came to 2020 . that's why although he lost the election he did much better among blacks and hispanics particularly among the men in both of those groups. >> i've written on in the past on the total damage of covid. you have to count both the disease itself obviously but also the cost of preventing these forgone economic activities and if you look at the data during 2020 the vast majority was cost of prevention. about 80 percent in the middle of

down on the black community.you had police killings you had police beatings you had false arrests you had the planting of evidence and you saw no accountability in the system for that police violence. and so the panther said we are going to police the police and and they knew what the laws were california was an open carry state and there were certain guns that you could carry they knew what kinds of guns they could carry they knew how to carry them. they knew where to point them. we're not to point them and they also knew how far away from the police they had to stand. the police were making an arrest. so these panthers come out the cars when there's an arrest going on and they're carrying their weapons. they're not pointing them as a police, but they're carrying their weapons. the police did not like this and so they ran to don mulford who was a conservative assemblyman and the california legislature. and said, we need your help because every time we pull the panthers over we can't arrest them because what they

that was places black people created, the black communities in florida.t, white folks accused people of doing things they hadn't done. do not tell us the government has nothing to do with what happens to us. the government does. this is a racist society that is set up for white people, not for us. we get redlined in our communities. we cannot get our houses refinanced. if you have got a home, you better keep it. they are trying to buy them and take us out of our neighborhoods. that is what has been happening all of our life. host: if you can hold on, we will get a response. guest: i am curious about one thing. it turns out, i am older than everyone who has called in and mentioned their age. i grew up in the segregated south in lord of, -- in florida. these conceptions they described are not alien to me. what i am doing is saying, look. you are locked in a prison. i am here. host: i think mr. allen froze up on us. he is joining us via zoom this morning. we will see if we can get him back momentarily. we have 10 minutes left in this conversation. we will go

they were like all blacks are being hunted down all blacks are are being shot in the street. all blacks are in the criminal justice system and they're wrong. even if you think there's an issue, so i wrote this article and i was upset at the time. so i just started writing and this one just went viral and they picked it up and then the major newspapers picked it up and rush limbaugh. read it on the show. and so then i said, okay. what is missing? how do i address this? so that's where race crazy came from? i wanted to talk about what i call in the book the progressive racism movement and i always say don't put adjectives in front of the thing because when you put an adjective in front of it you change it right so you can't say social justice if you want justice you just want justice. why do you need social in front of it? it's justice when you put social in front of it's different, but this is kind of a play on that. i say progressive racism when really it's just racism, but i call it progressive because in their mind they do the same thing. so the races from 1840 said i am wh

, black, black, black i am. people see them, a practice known as "shadow banning." unice: are you stressed? are you mad? are you upset? are you sad? sorry, what? unice: i guess you tend to get a lot ofhadow bans for speaking up about stuff such as racism and stuff. you could mention one words, black, say all of this, and your video could get shadow banned. when you post a video, the video just, it's on the app. it's just, you're not going to get any views for it. so you can see it, it's just on they go onto your account as well. so it's up there, it's just it's not going to gain you views. avani: last year, tiktok creators noticed the algorithm was suppressing posts with the hashtag black lives matter or george floyd. male: so, word on the street is that tiktok has banned the black lives matter hashtag. avani: one of those creators was sydney man, paniora nukunuku, who had created a video using a pool table to explain the black lives matter issue to australians. paniora nukunuku: this is a white australia table,