black america. i'd like to say something about progressive principles that alo progressive results for minority communities. that's something i just realized. therefore didn't get help when, in fact, they are hurting because what the left believes in and the left relies on his current underclass and why the hearts of much on division is when marxism is a tenet of all the principles. they need white versus black, heterosexual versus homosexual, short versus tall, keep going. why are you just trying to make people divide? they truly believe when she divide you can conquer. from chaos a dictatorship can write the big government can seize full power. everything that conservatives are against it for black america it's important for them to know the real history of all of that helping that the keep telling you about. curled in -- windowpane johnson wasn't wrote president because he think the civil rights bill of 1964. this is so ridiculous compass to the point should be humorist. he was an avowed racist.

when we see what happened wednesday in the capitol it just underscoring the difference between black america and white america. no doubt had that been black lives matter protests, when this insurrection took place, not only would there have been arrests, the police would have been using excessive force shooting and killing black people and every person there, jonathan capehart, would be charged with conspiracy to murder. but we won't see that here because there are two justice systems am america. >> this is a rhetorical question, were you surprised to see on television live domestic terrorists, insurgents, whatever nefarious names you want to call them, just breezily running up the steps of the united states capitol. did you think that maybe actually there at the capitol, lane forcement would use the same force against these people trying to commit -- attempting a coup, the same force as was shown by people just demanding to be treated with ee dwaul respect by law enforcement? >> not only am i surprised to see them treated with kid gloves, people allowed to leave the capitol after committing

i would say to black america, particularly young black america, i saw you in the street and i have seen you protesting about this. if you really want us to have a shot at changing the system that you are protesting against, one of the most powerful ways is through state power. i'm asking that they consider reversing migration which a lot of people are already doing, what i am saying to it with -- >> watch "afterwards" tonight 9:00 p.m. eastern on c-span2. ♪♪ >> you are watching c-span2, unfiltered view of government. c-span2 was created by america's cable television company. brought to you by these companies to provide c-span2 debeers as a public service. ♪♪

one for black america, and one for white america. says, where black people, shoot first, ask questions later. >> reporter: last week the prosecutor declined to press charges. >> no kenosha law enforcement officer in this case will be charged with any criminal offense. >> reporter: he said officer sheskey was justified in his use of force because blake was armed with a knife, refused orders to drop it, officer sheskey's attorney in a statement insists that, quote, race had absolutely nothing to do with the officer's actions. blake was given every opportunity to comply with the officers, and he repeatedly chose not to. sheskey and the two other officers involved in the shooting remain on paid administrative leave. what did you expect when you knew that the decision was coming up? on if they were going to file charges or not? >> i knew they were gaining in the intellectual justification of discrimination. as martin luther king said in the letter from birmingham jail, just because you say it's legal, that don't make it right. i mean, blac

and needing to reverse economical one - - economic progress in fact it was called wall street of black america and for some reason america got this important part of history and it really needs to be revisited because the horror of what happened with that justification leading to the discussion. >> the book homecoming i didn't get the chance to read as much literature as i would like but this was beautifully written model. with the evolution of slavery and race in america where and how people live in prior to slavery and during that enslavement. , it's a beautifully done book she's very talented novelist and has a future. a book that really got me is killer by david graham where the white power elite a number of native americans who had land titles and royalties for those special resources were swindled and in order to have deeds transferred in that and further then have some fascination of native americans but this again took place in the 19 twenties in america. this is and ancient history or mid- 19th century and it is and unbelievable story and deeply disturbing in terms of, again the power

i embarked on a series called black in america followed in 2014 by a documentary called black and blueabout aggressive police practices and and its impact on african americans. keshawn harley has never ben in legal trouble, but he says police have stopped him more than 100 times. i first got something first when i was 13. they say i fit her description. that's i would say nine times out of ten the excuse they give me what's the description young black male? 18 to 25. i've been stabbed over a hundred times. it does all blur together at some point, but there are those extreme. this is where is kind of hard to forget kishin is a sophomore in college. he lives with his mother sophia. i'm just coming home from school and a cop slams me against the wall on behind my back those stuff out my bag. it's called me derogatory terms like and he doesn't even let me pull out my wallet to show him who i am. it's showing him i go to the school right here it messes with you psychologically it messes with you emotionally it i don't sleep until he comes home quite frankly and i know he is not in cuffs or

to tell america that black lives matter. this is america. white america must acknowledge what black americans live every day. systemic racism must be rooted out of this country or else the freedom that should be enjoyed by all citizen will be no more. this is our voice. this is our power. i yield back. >> thank you so much, congressman. [inaudible] -- frederica wilson back. thank you congresswoman. >> thank you to our amazing chair and all the members of the congressional black caucus. the census project that we just went through projects that in 2045 white people will become the minority in the united states. everything that we've seen in this country for the last 400 years up until last wednesday has been driven by that fact. the insanity and brutality that we've seen this country only makes sense when we understand white people's fear of extinction. for them white power equals white supremacy, and white supremacy is only achievable with numerical dominance. in their minds arise in the black and brown population threatens their very existe

what i am saying to black america, particularly lewd young -- particularly young black americans, i have heard you. if you really want a shot at changing the systems you're protesting against, one of the quickest ways to do that is through state power. i am asking they consider a reverse migration, which a lot of people are already doing. >> sunday night at 9 p.m. eastern on c-span2. >> former president trump became the first president to be impeached twice. this week, house impeachment managers deliver the article of impeachment to the senate with jamie raskin reading the article before the senate. >> removal from office and this qualification to hold any office in the united states, so help you god. >> the following day, senators were sworn in as jurors at the trial. senator rand paul tried to -- as unconstitutional. >> violates the constitution and is not in order. >> emotion was tabled in a 55-45 senate vote. the trial is adjourned until tuesday, february 9, marking the start of the impeachment trial. watch the trial live at 1 p.m. eastern on c-span two, stream it on c-span.org, or l

they have taken black america's as far as they can take us. to look at a model, a paradigm that is based more on individual responsibility, on self help, not looking outside of ourselves as individuals. but taking responsibility for that. well, that, of course, challenges the very foundation politically of the left in america. and so, again, i don't mean to repeat myself, but going back to amazon, that is a message they did not want her to. >> martha: it is clear and you make a great point, shall be. before i go, i want to ask my question again. where's that go from here? if there was growth in that belief in a way that some african-american voters were looking differently out which party to do something, to allow them to succeed on their own, where does that energy go now, do you think? >> it is one of the things i like most about the tromped era, let's say. there is beginning to be certainly in black america a counterpoint to 60 years of rather tired and exhaustive liberalism. >> martha: yep. >> they are young people seriously considering ot

so what i am saying to black america particularly young black america, i saw you in the streets. i have seen you protesting about this. i've heard your will. if you really want us shot -- a shot at changing the systems that you are approaching one of the quickest and most powerful ways to do that is through state power. i'm asking that they consider a reverse of migration which a lot of people are doing without thinking about the political generations but i say do it with political personality. donald john trump impeachment trial removal from office and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the united states so help you god. >> i do. >> they are for i make a point of order in this proceeding which would try a private citizen and not a president, a vice president or civil officer violate the constitution and is not in order. >> thank you, thank you lieutenant governor boseman and speaker gunn for working with us in these unusual times to make unusual circumstances. i appreciate your words. to the members of the legislature, and other public

. >> so i should also say are you the author of bitcoin and black america. have a theory, a thesis, that bitcoin and cryptocurrency can be used to close the wealth gap in under rated communities explain to us how this can happen >> for the first time we have a plan b option to the current financial system which has sustained years of redlining, racial zrim discrimination and another egeneralious aegregious the black community and we can shift our mindset and our money. money is nothing but monetary energy we can shift our energy into bitcoin and crypto currency because there is no bar year to entry. it is inconfiscatable. it is something we have not seen in the history of the united states for the black community so i think bitcoin is a great step in the right direction. i think it can definitely help long-term. >> i want to talk to you more about the issue of digital redlining. but before we get to that i have to ask you the volatility. i start off this segment talking about the big drop in bitcoin earlier this week. you know, we have people like mark cuban

he hated black america and did that by creating the great society act. that's why it's important to go pursue after signing it. he said they are getting uppity we have to give them a little bit of something so we have the vote the next two years. what he wanted was the power and he was willing to give an inch to get a mile so now he's one of the most difficult that's ever sat in the white house not just because of the things he did but also his record on the vietnam war and stuff going on. it's crazy black americans don't know any of this. we are taught he was the best thing that ever happened and that isn't true. >> the polls show african americans across the country are saying to this question of what do you have to lose it seems more of them are breaking towards donald trump's way let's go back to the republican party's history. it was obviously an antislavery party when. black americans got the chance to vote and started to vote overwhelmingly for the republican party, but the republican party itself earned a bit of scorn. martin luther king senior h

and so what i am saying to black america critically young black americans, i saw you in the streets. i have seen you protesting about this. i have heard you. if you really want a shot at changing the systems that you're protesting against, one of the quickest most powerful ways to do that is through state power. and i am asking that they consider a reverse migration which a lot of people are doing without considering the political intentionality. but i said do it with political intentionality. robert: remember with my generation, we remember in 1967, the republic of africa. and you have referenced it in your book. perhaps you should share with us what is similar to what was proposed back then and how does your proposal differ. charles: soon after the rise in the late 1960s, a group of radicals i guess they called them. they met and they formed government as a republican of africa. it is but they were saying is . much as idea. it is return south. but their demands were broader. they wanted to establish a separate republic in the southern states. an demand reparation from america to sa

but i am with him on immigration. , no oneck american male has gotten hurt more than black america. and daca are still illegal. they are illegal. so again, citizenship, as well as immigration. no one has gotten hurt more behind immigration dan american-born black's, and we should really look at who has been impacted by this policy. what trump stood for, immigration -- i agree with him on that. host: has your parent group done any research on that? do you show numbers that echo what that caller was just saying? guest: sure. i think larry is bringing up a good point. that is one really unique thing about president trump, that he views not only illegal but regal immigration as a negative to the united states. and his messaging was significantly directed at minority communities and any potential damage they received from immigration. significant economic studies show that immigration as a whole , legal immigration, is a net positive in the united states. it grows our economy. even in ways you cannot measure, contributed to this society and culture and communities. but it is true that in

many blacks involved they were signed up to fight, there was a sense that swept across much of black america that maybe this is the time to advocate for our own rights and the time for us to start getting equality. in those riots that appeared in 1919 many led by soldiers, those riots were the direct result of that, it was an attempt to tell black america, no this is not the time for equality, no this is not the time for you guys to get a boat and you had all kinds of trumped up reasons for these riots and the one in arkansas was a case of many places that was on a black insurrection. it was basically if you look into the facts came about because there was a freeze on payments to various things during the war and black share farmers wanted to get a share for the cousin props. they decided to humanize. that constituted a black uprising. so one after another, there were these trumped up things, but i find it interesting that kimberly is talking about the friction between the that happens in the abolitionist area but between these equality movements. >> that's one thing i enjoy about both books

this african-american community homes and businesses and churches and then calling wall street black america because it was that successful but for some reason for a long time this important part of history really needs to be revisited because the horror of what happened of racism and the justification of overt racism went to unbelievable violence and is a contribution to the current discussion. the treaty, her book homecomin homecoming, i don't often get the chance to read as much literature as i would like even though i'm in english literature major but this was beautifully done and a beautifully written novel and it juxtaposes with slavery and race in america with the story of how people live prior to slavery and it's a beautifully done book she's very talented novelist and really has a future and osha's came up with the new book as well. one book that really got me and that is killers of the moon by david graham and this is a book again, in oklahoma where white power elite murdered a number of native americans with land titles and realties for those resources on their land and were swind

du bois published his germinal "black reconstruction in america." and the question was not what should individual black people do, but rather how to reorganize and restructure post-slavery society in order to guarantee the incorporation of those who had been formerly enslaved? the society could not remain the same, or should not have remained the same. neoliberalism resists change at the individual level. it asks the individual to adapt to conditions of capitalism, to conditions of racism. amy: i wanted to ask you, angela davis, abouthe monunts to racists, colonizers, confederates that are continuing to fall across the united states and around the world. did you think you would ever see this? you think about bree newsome after the horror at mother emanuel church in charleston, south carolina, o shimmied up that flagpole on the grounds of the south carolina legislature and took down the confederate flag, and they put it right on back up. what about what we're seeing today? prof. davis: well, of course, bree newsome was a wonderful pioneer, and i think

we believe in america. black people, white america's joe biden may have been saving you.n jim clyburn says we know joe. we appreciate joe the joe knows us. much better. it is the beauty we are as a people and then to find a way to know yourselves that is my hope and then to continue to invest despite the negativity but i see to overcome. >> thank you so much. think i can speak to say will be happy to stay here much longer and hearing your. thank you for attending and thank you for your work and everything that you do. thank you to the audience here as well for joining us tonight. you like to purchase a copy of doctor dyson's work support your local bookstore if you can the link here goes to the amazon alternative bookshop for support your local store if you can. and it's the understanding of the organization but there are some questions coming up in the list that might suggest people are looking for things to look to and to reach out we can try to work together personal resources. thank you both so much and has been a wonderful evening have a safe and great night. >>. >>

black people dying. we want equal justice. we want the same justice as white america and black america.e all need to come together and be united as one. >> so many people watched your testimony in front of the house judiciary committee. did you feel -- i mean, tell us what happened sort of behind the scenes. did you feel that lawmakers were really listening? did they tell you that they were going to take some specific action? >> well, i think the world was listening. when i was in there, i was just speaking from the heart and just let them now how i felt about everything when it comes to policing. and they need to get their jobs righ right. it hurt me to lose my brother, but i don't want to see that happen to anybody else around the world. if they get their jobs right the first time, they'll never have to worry about it the second time. >> joining us now is the author of the new book, "long time coming: reckoning with race in america," michael eric dyson. he's a distinguished professor of african-american studies at vanderbilt university. happy new year, professor. great to see you. >>

half of the list is in the south, where black america is thriving. in the south. you look where black-owned businesses are thriving, the number one in the country is in the southeast. that's part of the pull. the push, just like the crash to have the cotton industry, the pandemic may well be part of the push because, you know, in the second quarter of last year when we basically shut down the economy of america, the places hit hardest, many of them were those places in the north and west where black people have migrated to. the black unemployment rate in chicago in the second quarter of last year was three times the unemployment rate of black people in atlanta. >> stephen: you live in atlanta now. >> yes, i do. >> stephen: it's an example of how the south is changing, how there's dynamic new economies in the south. where else in the south is it changing? where are the being draws right now? >> well one thing important to remember is the first time atlanta got a black mayor was 1973, and that was the first city in all of the south to have a black mayo

can you shareg, that discrimination and challenges that america's black athletes faced after their return home from berlin? were they received as heroes? dr. thomas: sure. you think about the story of jesse owens, at the time, the greatest track and field performance in history. thediately after the games, american olympic committee went on a tour of europe, and they it was aompeting, so grinding performance, and they were trying to raise money to offset the expenses of participating in the olympics. out, tired,was born he decided to go home, and he was barred from competing in track and field. that is an amazing story to think about, but he spent much of the 1940's performing and what you would call spectacles. a wayld raise horses as to raise money, traveled with the harlem globetrotters and did a halftime performance, running over hurdles as a form of entertainment, and he really struggled to find an economic footing and to benefit from his athletic prowess in ways that a lot of his other white colleagues did not struggle, so many came back with a segregated to fight forad equality. as

this was not a black american, not a latino american, not an asian american. this is a united states of americai think he was always hesitant to get too pulled into racial discussions and for him to be seen solely as this black president with an agenda that was essentially black issues. i think you kind of saw that struggle, certainly during the first term. >> prominent harvard scholar henry louis gates jr. says he wants an apology from a white police officer who arrested him last week after gates, an african-american, forced his way into his own home after having trouble with the lock in cambridge, massachusetts. >> henry louis gates jr. is a black national resource. a professor in the ivy leagues. at the heart of african-american studies in the country. he's one of our most gifted minds. to see him handcuffed, to see him handcuffed on his own porch, this is crazy. >> police say gates was exhibiting loud and tumultuous behavior. the report also says gates was calling the police racist and shouting, "this is what happens to black men in america." >> it became a confirmation at least for me that

black man. he put love at the center. and americao be grateful in fact in some ways america ought to just see black people and give 'em a standing ovation. oh, yes. how you going to put up with all this hatred, all this terror, all this contempt, and still dishing out the stevie wonders about love and martin king and what is it about these people they're so tied into the love. and how long will that tradition survive? because believe you me when that tradition starts getting weak and it's gone, america, praying for you. you in a world of trouble. it's true. it's true. >> good afternoon, brother west. >> how you doing today? >> i'm great. i was moved by your lament that ida b. wells is not a household name. i'm interested in hearing your thoughts about the importance of the intergenerational transfer of knowledge of the struggle, basic knowledge of history, to the sustaining of black prophetic fire or even to sparking new fires. >> yeah, that is such a profound question. that is very much what this book is about. this is true not just

can be explained by the exaggerated political choices that black communities have been showing doing and i'm not suggesting that people hate america one way or another but i wonder if you read that. black voters in particular have to be more just cerny and more demanding of politician and ask for a bit more than just anti a racist rhetoric and symbolic gestures like taking and yes i think the need for specificity is very important so in the book i talk about this economic framework that i call ph d. which is purchased kind of positive ways they create jobs create and expand businesses and provide capital in the black community to specificity should be are the programs policies and initiative stimulative for job creation stimulative for business development and are you making capital available and affordable right in the communities in particular to actually deal with the underlying jobless issues that have been persistent for 150 years to deal with the underlying lack of a business infrastructure which has been a problem for the last 150 years and to deal with the capital gap so i agree right there requests need to be specific and

the best of black america at the olympic games. >> to recognized that black americans weren't the sameas americans. i'm acutely aware waking up this morning, seeing the news from kenosha, it's not a topic or struggle entirely in the past. i'm thinking about these athletes in a 35, 36 are experiencing pervasive and legalized discrimination at home, and they will go and represent their country. we i wanted to ask you,, had african american athletes were presented games in the past, or is it something new? >> african americans have been involved in the olympic games since the beginning of the modern olympics. first african americans who were at the 1904 olympic games, so there had been a long history of african americans being involved, but 1936 was special, because this was a year where we had a critical mass, 18 african americans who competed in the games. this was a watershed moment in many ways. >> an extremely visible in a way that had not been before. in fact, in the end, 49 nations, the largest contingent ever send teams to berlin, which the nazis we are thrilled about. it legitimi

the vice president-elect has spoken to this many times, one in seven households in america, more than one in five black and latino households in america, report in they don't have enough food to eat. this includes 30 million adults

. >> so black is beautiful for this man in harlem in 1924 but to assert that is a radical gesture to suggest we are finally left behind our internal on agreement what america says about us is powerful. but then also those with eldridge cleaver and sexuality who says that baldwin is the most a self hating black he is ever encountered but really what he wants to do that his hyper masculinity could not deal with the complexity of when. it hurt him deeply with baldwin. it was a wounded moment but yet baldwin did not portray. and he knew and understood the cost. 's. >> he keeps his public arrows aimed at white supremacy and what he calls the lie. there is a part in here where you say the innocence and the idea of american innocence needs to die. you talk about what you put forward as a way to think about america's history and i hear you inviting people into a new way of thinking of american history about facing things more squarely to put aside what baldwin calls the big lie. >> in 1962 essay entitled as much truth as one can bear now to give a shout out to the late randall keenan became us access to many essays that we can find in the schaumburg collection. yo

so what i am saying to the black america daily young black americans. i saw you in the streets. i've seen you protesting about this. if you really want to shot changing the systems that you are up against. one of the quickest most powerful ways to do that is through state power. i am asking this today consider a reverse migration which a lot of people doing it without thinking with political considerations. one thing doing it with political power. >> watch the sunday night at 9:00 p.m. eastern, afterwards on "c-span2". >> good afternoon and thank you so much for joining us for this on the top right i

discuss that i'm now joined by sean rochester author all of the black hats the cost of being black in america is there i just it's very good to talk to you thank you very much for giving us this opportunity. it is a wonderful thing to be on the platform thank you very much for having me and for engaging in this really important conversation now in your book you cited a number of studies on discrimination in the job market all of which are pretty distressing but they wanted me away completely was already a fact maine's wife sounding names versus black sounding names who would know that there's such a distinction and he talked more about this yeah so the university of chicago division really groundwork breaking our research right on this and they sent out resumes to over 5000 different employers across private public sector large companies medium size small businesses they were trying to get a sense of the amount of discrimination in the labor market what's really important to know is in the resumes that they sent out it would be the same resumes they would just switch the names right the other

in the united states of america. black and latino americans are dying of covid-19 at rates nearly three times that of white americans. it's not white americans' fault. it's just a fact. and the americans now know it, especially younger americans. one of the reasons i'm so optimistic about this nation is that today's generation of young americans is the most progressive, thoughtful, inclusive generation that america has ever seen. and they are pulling us toward justice in so many ways, forcing us to confront the huge gap in economic inequity between those at the top and everyone else, forcing us to confront the existential crisis of climate, and yes, force us to confront systemic racism and white supremacy. it's just been weeks since all america witnessed a group of thugs, insurrectionists, political extremists and white supremacists violently attack the capitol of our democracy. so now, now is the time to act. it's time to act because that's what the fate and morality calls us to do. across nearly every fate, the same prin

black folks have been nicaraguan america for hundred years and she and other folks in this book and have de negress black people. she says don't be intimidated, don't be scared, straighten your backup. ever have a sense of dignity, organize mobile laws with others who are willing to speak up. there's a reflection in the text about how often time she was miss understood and misconstrued by black folk, including by the great boys himself. d. buoys but i do being d. buoys himself. we have other voices, especially black and brown women's voices raising their voices. cup of water under my bed. that's very important to have these women's voices, also white sisters can get in on it if they want to tell the truth and bear witness. cut against the grain oh yeah absolutely. men to, brothers to. >> tell us in fact since we are talking about sanitized. tell us about mlk and his santa claus a vacation. >> you just mentioned brother margins name, as like john cold train and nina's simone occurs to. just got a pause for a moment. how in the face, so much hatred and contempt could he dish out so much lo

john which was different i think for black america i mean when you look at what the democrats haven't done well over decades this is the 1st president where we could actually point to specific empowerment possibly policies that actually broke down is to to tional strongholds and actually provided opportunities if it wasn't for the cold it impact all of america we would have that actually see even more compound and positive impact and that's the reason why why the boycott blacks and hispanics the vote of the vote turnout for trump actually was historical basis i think there are $960.00 i don't usually black minutes retired here and you know but i think claim to be everyone explain to me you know me in simple words because i'm just a talk show host then why was he called a racist for the last 4 years ok because it is a daisy and yes it's easy to surround around i think target as opposed to addressing the fractions and the policies it's sort of like one dog barking at loon and i'm being very simplistic here then 3 dots are bucket barking at the new domestically you have 4 dogs barking on

how do they get away with pretending black people don't have any power in america?and the answer for that question is because it's more gratifying to situate yourself as eternally battling power differential in america past and present so this is exactly what i mean by the suspension of disbelief. what you said is to obviously true. the idea that black people have no power. black people have an awful lot to do with making joe biden the democratic nominee, black women in particular and now there's a black woman vice president and let's say, she could, she has a better chance of vice president of possibly ending up president and yet we are supposed to say that black people have no power because george floyd was killed by an undertrained and possibly mean white policeman one night last spring and really that is what the answer is supposed to be or, of course, they will be brought up various statistics of say health care, say earnings, although those arguments get very, very sketchy. there's various guess, certainly, but the idea that the idea is more important than the

dangerous black male america. you know i think that what we're looking at when we look at patriarchy. is dangerous across racial and ethnic spectrums and i would absolutely say you know as a black woman that many. you know that is a risk to us wherever we see cuts masculinity and the. one who is. black male america is incredibly doesn't howard and i would say in a risk to our systems to leverage what america is quite low and talk about this what i'm talking about our power structure when we say who is a power structure look at representation when we look at even you know a great story we're at who is in our marriage offices and who is in our you know cortical in our government we're not seeing an overabundance of black men to make choices you know that harm us and so i would say in fact what we're seeing is the systemic of liberal disenfranchisement and you know inclusiveness of black men in this country by a white supremacist system so i would say the danger as a political structure doesn't exist. what people are