>> you can be black and african-american and negro but it does include black. >> the other one back confuses is the use of caucasian which. >> i don't think it is in the sense is now. >> but in society in general how many people with those various shades of white were from the caucus mountains ever? >> zero. [laughter] >> thank you. >> this is the easy answer but the parts that cannot answer but every 10 years since the categories adjust to take account of what the federal government thinks it needs to account up sell in the middle, started off 79 the with a picture in my book of the first since this category and there was only one race listed that was white and it was five different presentations. and then there were people who at that point* where of various races and in the middle of the 19th century were milan no. >> bless you. >> in the early 20th century for white people they broke white people down into native-born or florida born. it has changed over time and if you make a move maybe you can get people or gray or brown or more variety. [laughter] >> a quick statement and a quick comm

1961 the year obama was born and mandela formed the armed wing of the african national congress, black americans earned on average 54 cents for every dollar earned by white americans. and 100% of all south africans living in poverty were blacked. 47 years later 99% of all poor south africans are black and african-americans earnings have inched up to 57 cents for every dollar earned by white americans these are not political structures. political and economic structures that are designed for black people to get ahead. niggers says later describing his faults one of the room around him celebrated obama's acceptance address. i ron for that moment -- of roughly that moment in his thoughts his friend whose parents held from haiti surfaced from his stance lee, she shouts, yes, brother, lee answers, we are about to do this, she shouts, pounding his chest twice for emphasis to it shocked the world, shocked the world, south african style, baby, south africans title. yes, lee says, like removing his glasses to wipe them with a handkerchief. that is exactly what i am afraid of. so anyway, i will open a two

threat least 60 years black south africans and americans have seen in one another their avatar bono's leaves from that country ever land ashore in the united states. jim-crow laws were not very different from apartheid structures. the catechism of the assassinated african-american icon malcolm x was the model for that preached by the assassinated south african icon steve. with mandela and the king the fund inspiration from gandhi and the liberation hero. america's anti-apartheid movement was largely set in motion by black americans like randall robinson and south africa's afrikaners white settlers of dutch and french extraction who initiated the formal part by state or the spending architectural image of

the year that obama was born and mandela formed the armed wing of the african national congress black americans earn on average 54 cents for every dollar earned by white americans and 100% of all south africans living in poverty were black. 47 years later, 99% of all poor south africans are black and african-americans earnings have inched up to 57 cents for every dollar earned by white americans these are not political structures, political and economic structures designed for black people to get ahead. lee says later describing his private fault while the rumor around him celebrated obama's address. at roughly that moment his friend jelks and his parents held from haiti services from his stance grinning broadly. lee he shouts at his friend. yes, his brother answers. we are about to do this, he shouts pounding his chest for emphasis. shock the world, shocked the world south african stifel, beebee, south african style. yes, lee says removing his glasses to wipe them with a handkerchief, that is what i am afraid of. i will open up to questions but i hope you get a feel for what we were trying to

turning as usual more than most, there certainly is -- black americans hurting as usual. there is a sense that the age of obama may be distinctive, but not really different. race seems to matter a lot, particularly among those who have the least and are at the bottom socially and economically. economically. senator obama may have sidestepped the issue in the 2008 presidential contest, but if you asked residents of central cities across this country, they may tell you that they are still stuck in that, black and blue, just like before. race is so daunting, such a big and expensive subject, that is hard to determine how to approach it, where to begin. for all african americans, it is both larger than life and also a deeply personal and intimate. so i will begin my remarks this evening with a brief personal reflection from my own experience of race over the six decades of my life. from that vantage point, it is impossible not to and knowledge that if not post-racial, the united states is not the vicious and bimonthly racial society i was born into in 1947, shortly after war

black people as never before. , currently other changes were soon to deeply alter americans a sense of the very meaning of race. the openness of the mid 1960's when beyond the black white-collar line. the immigration and nationality of the act of 1965 was crafted to counter revered nordic minded statutes in terms of patience. also allowed for wider immigration from the western hemisphere and africa. therein lay the seeds of democratic revolution. new immigrants of the post 1965 mirage overwhelming week outside europe were up ending america's racial conventions asia discreetly in number were judged to be smarter and richer than the native-born whites. latinos formed a 13% of the population by 2000 edging out african-americans as the most numerous minority. the u.s. census without scoring the nation's racial makeup began to notice latin americans in the 1940's. by a counting of people with surnames and lumping them together as hispanics. so an impossibly crude measurement and survived until 19707. by that point* the federal government needed precise racial statistics to enforce civil rig

from colored to to african-american to black to african-american always associated the idea of blackness with slavery. but little attention has been paid to histories equally confused inflexible discourses on the white race and the old slave trade from eastern europe. i use white races in the plural because most of the past centuries when race really came down to matters of law, educated americans firmly believed in the existence of more than one european race. it is possible and important to investigate the other side of history without trivializing the history we are to know so well. let me state categorically that while this is not a history and white versus black, i do not by any means underestimate orono the overwhelming importance of black race in america. i am familiar with a truly gigantic literature that explains the meaning and portends an honest to god reality of the existence of race. it's imperative and a statutory biological definitions of white race, we may notoriously vague. believing that what is not black. the disc thickness does not indicate lack of interest. quite to

and there are a number of african-americans who are negro is appearing november, 2010 census but supposedly the black population is so called -- what do you think of that? >> this is the first question you had about our african-americans views towards the gay community and gay rights and this is the one if we had more time the chapter in the book by wanted to write was about african-americans attitudes towards the gay community and based on what happened in los angeles and california during the the election and i don't know if you remember that there was tremendous scapegoating as it sailed the exit polls said african-americans are against gay marriage and we were. the majority voted were against gay marriage. not nearly as much as though as latinos, whites, mormons, catholics. why do you scapegoat, why would people scapegoat us? so this is really sort of a very relevant issue to the book which is like this sort of cynicism, faceless mass and the african-american community as the inability to recognize for who we are. there is a tremendous amount of homophobia in the community. it just so happens not

not just black americans.n the homes with ourselves and fixing things we can fix we wouldn't have this big problem with these numbers. >> karen, come back later in the week. we want to talk more about this. >> i'd love to. >> i appreciate your time. karen hunter, accomplished pulitzer prize winning journalist here on "the ed show" tonight. >>> the leader of the protest on the national mall will be here to tell us why she's afraid of president obama. . today, the dream of owning a home seems more attainable than ever. nobody sells more real estate than re/max. visit remax.com today. we're with you when you're saving for your dreams. when you want a bank that travels with you. with you when you're ready for the next move. [ male announcer ] now that wells fargo and wachovia have come together, what's in it for you? unprecedented strength, the stability of the leading community bank in the nation and with 12,000 atms and thousands of branches, we're with you in more ways and places than ever before. with you when

he can say because he's brought himself up to criticism that is not just talking as a black person, not as an american president. i think that's what we're trying to deal with. we have black history month and we talk about this. which actor morgan freeman who was our friend, who did an introduction for janet leigh the plate and in it we should talk about also. but he is also raising the issue. why is it just one month for black americans? of their 11 lot of months for white america? why is that part of our entire history? >> host: some people joke and say we select good the shortest month. i heard that a great deal last month. >> guest: i think the president can't relate and shouldn't get confined by this, but we feel we have an obligation to speak out about this. i feel a special obligation because i was a lawmaker as well and i helped write some of those laws that are in fact have a discriminatory impact. they may not have been designed that way. i certainly didn't think so, but would you write about this is if you

americans. all of the numbers that are available for black america and whitemerica are not available for hispanicicans, so the index is not a perfect match, but it models the index that we have had for the last six or seven years when it comes to the relationship between black and white americans. tavis: i want to spend the balance of my time talking about solutions. that is the most important part of this. i will do that after asking you about the president's response to this. we will give you a chance to assess his response. the president said, basically, in terms of time here, there have been two responses given consistently about the lack of jobs in black america. a rising tide will lift all folks. -- lift all boats. number two, the second answer, and i am paraphrasing here, of course, we are going to have to get whenever we get from the stimulus. now, you know well that there was a report out from a university that points that the stimulus has not delivered jobs, too small black and brown businesses -- to a small black and brown businesses. and thirdly, -- to small black and brown businesses

it may not be in the best interest but none of them so far suggest that black americans is going to distance themselves in any real way from barack obama at this point. >> i agree with robert, you are not going to see black support for barack obama due to be low 80%. but i do think this i don't think if things continue the way they are going and they are going to i don't think they are going to turn out in the next election and the presidential elections are not that complicated. there's a few states. i'm from indiana. he won't win indiana. of the vote was today i don't care he won't win ohio or pennsylvania. if you are telling me that a laid-off auto worker was unemployment benefits expired six months ago and is going to vote for barack obama because he's seen this hope and change i don't believe it. i do not believe it so i wrote a piece recently saying i believe right now if i had to that money sarah palin would be the next president because if you look at the history of this country and every time there's been any kind of -- when there is this sort of recognition, this sort of idea from

. >> as a black american, as far as i'm concerned, it is a high tech lynching. >> reporter: this timekes are high once again. >> what's at stake is nothing less than the future of the liberal leadership on the supreme court. >> reporter: is a political donny brook over the course inevitable? >> republicans are just itching to make a huge amount of hay out of this, and there's going to be political fireworks for many months to come. >> reporter: so, who is on obama's short list, and how likely are they to trigger the fireworks? elena kagan is the front-runner. she's the solicitor general, the obama administration's top lawyer, and though she's a liberal on social issues like abortion and gay rights, she's a strong defender of presidential powers in wartime. >> elena kagan is very impressive and very appealing, because she meets the goldilocks standard. not too liberal, not too conservative. >> reporter: if the president is looking to stoke his political base, judge diane wood could get the nod. she's a passionate liberal with a sweeping view of the constitution. and then there's the in

that may not be in their best interest to do but none of the polls so far suggest that black americans want to distance themselves in any real way from barack obama at this point. >> i agree with robert completely. i don't think you are ever going to see the black support for barack obama dip below the certainly 80% but i do think this. i don't think if things continue the way they are going, i don't think they are going to turn out for him in the next election. our presidential elections are not that complicated. there are a few states. i am from indiana. if the vote was today, he would not win indiana. he won't win ohio, he won't win pennsylvania. if you are telling me some laid-off auto employer whose unemployment benefits expired is going to vote for barack obama, i do not believe it, so i wrote a piece recently saying that i believe right now if i had to bet money i would say sarah palin would be the next president. if you really look at the history of this country and every time there has been any kind of come e. then when it didn't happen that when there was sort of recognition

very careful to draw a distinction between american capitalist and american, white americans and black americans between men and between american women and children when they were talking about military topics. you don't see any of this in north korea. all americans are inherently degenerate. due to the raised according to the north koreans that the interesting thing about this is although they have caucasian facial features, they have black skins. and i think that this is because north korea does not want to alienate its few remaining friends in the world, most of whom are in africa like zimbabwe. at the same time it wants to communicate the contaminated nature of the american racial talks to his people. easy depictions like this. here's another one to show they demonize women and children as well. this is a depiction of a korean woman trying to confront the american missionary family which murdered her child. you have the big noses and the something i said so on. here's the poster that i started off the slideshow with. the legend reads 100,000 times revenge on the yankee vampires. i put the ye

the first thing is, see, i don't really separate black issues, so-called, from american issues. in other words, i feel that if black people are basically not doing well in the public education system, well then, that is a problem for the country at large. it is not a black problem. and when it is only discussed as a black problem, it reduces the significance of it. we are in a period when we actually need every qualified person to do a good job at what they do. and so you cannot say -- i had discussions with republicans 20 years ago in washington, saying, the way that you guys are going at it, if you are fighting a war, you would think that you could send people into west point and not have any basic training, and try to win. you cannot do that. you have to train your troops. it was interesting -- that was the first time they ever thought, apparently, that there was a relationship between the running of the country and the quality of the education to the populace. i was saying this -- you've got to compete with people for whom quality is number one, because they are behind. so th

i see it as referring to black americans, a race, extension of afro-american which interestingly is aerm that thurgood marshall refused to use into the last 34 years of his life even through the use, through the '80s he still insisted on calling african-americans in the gross. if you're talking to him referring to them as negros. it's an evolving question, but i think african-americans, i like the term. it's the one i used. >> [inaudible] >> i appreciate that. >> talk a little bit more about the relationship between houston and marshall which was pretty interesting. >> their relationship started as teacher and student. houston was the dean of howard law school and was in the process of turning the school from an academic backwater into a veritable west point for civil rights advocacy and houston was a very button-down individual, very esteemed individual and three piece suit kind of guy. thurgood marshall walked with a strap that was so mean that his fellow students called him turkey. dean houston was so tough and rigorous on his students that his students called him to his -- not to

done i just got back three days ago from a major conference the first time in history of the black americane, amez, cme all black methodists coming together focusing in the young black men in the form of recognizing the major reason why we've got so many young black brothers drifting is they have not been loved. cared for. attended to, focused on -- first with family, then community and then at the larger level of public policy. the dilapidated housing, the disgraceful school systems, levels of unemployment, and underemployment, unavailable healthcare, unavailable child care. what does any group do when you're dangling in that way. >> that's exactly right. >> and aplayshah, if you have -- what is it people must do? better education, better school -- all these things would go a long way in order to change the siation. >> thank you. [inaudible] >> you have to use the microphone. no, come here. >> when i was listening to him speak -- i worked for the new jersey department of corrections. and so i'm fully familiar with the difficulties. i think there's so many avenues here that you need to atta

black. how an african-americans dr. team made its mark on nascar. thanks again. [applause] >> leonard miller is president of miller racing group and a second generation auto racing team owner. he is also a commercial airline pilot. his father, leonard w. miller entered a team in the indianapolis 500 back in 1972 and is in the black athletes hall of fame for achievement in motor racing. pander simon is a writer and editor who is covered music sports and pop culture. to find out more, visit seven stories.com.

[laughter] than black other which i fit in because i was american, a black american living there.but when he looked at the english white is basically just one category and the question is what will it take and when will it become desirable for white people to actually describe themselves to the same degree other races, quote races, are asked to describe themselves or is there this year there would be loss of power because once i heard and i would like your comment is that if there were of any white people and all they came to america and that is when all of the italians, english etc united, and is there a fear, loss of power -- >> okay. i understand now i think. i think that the fear of loss of power is already under foot or in the air or whatever without tampering any further with the categories. hind the powerful, the power arrangements. so for instance, as nations become richer, they will also become more beautiful. and as we get all mixed up, the taxonomy will have to somehow catch up to us. one thing that american historians have found a frustrating over the years is that we

is he doing enough for black americans?sk the reverend. >>> orangtang's fighting for attention. >>> president obama getting ready to nominate a replacement for the retiring john paul stevens. republicans are warning they could filibuster the nomination if the president chooses someone they consider outside the mainstream. democrats say they don't expect that to happen. >> i'm going to assume everybody is going to be responsible and we will move forward with this nominee and we should. >> if he picks an activist judge. i don't care whether the activist judge is liberal or conservative, we ought to do everything in our power to defeat the person. >> cnbc washington correspondent john harwood at the white house. do democrats really want to risk another big fight with republicans? >> reporter: there's some benefits for a fight. base voters are already fired up about this election. at the end of the day the president wants to win this nomination. the key question on a filibuster, contessa, is whether republicans would have the s

american lens. henry louis gates called the book of blackness. i think it ought to stand and i feel much better because it is alongside this. and if kendall doesn't take us into a new land of avatar people would still be reading books and we are all out. >> i want to say red on the radio today in talking about how this is a book that people may dip in and out and he was working on this for 40 years, a really great thing to bring to our attention not only in seeing this explicitly but having people cover that especially when you think about his identity as a jazz musician because often people get hung up on what the final document was and it was refreshing to see the amazing intent that went into 40 years of work and even though we all grieve about it, it never came out until now. so thank you very much for doing that. my question is in the familial sense and going through his work if you could talk a little more, saying that the -- every true american is somehow black, some like the characters in this book were to oppose him racially, how would h

and from my standpoint, as a black american, as far as i'm concerned, it is a high tech lynching for blacks who think for themselves, do for themselves, to have different ideas. and it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. you will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the u.s. and u.s. senate rather than hung from a tree. >> professor hill, you said you took it to mean that judge thomas wanted to have sex with you. but in fact he never did ask you to have sex, correct? >> no, he did not ask me to have sex. he did continually pressure me to go out with him continually. and he would not accept my explanation as one as being valid. >> clarence thomas squeaked out on a 7-7 split vote. he was narrowly confirmed two weeks later. that is not how things went for the second nominee after john roberts. >> this morning i'm proud to announce i'm nominating associate justice of the supreme court. she has devoted her life to the rule of law and cause of justice. she will be an outstanding addition to the supreme court of the united sta

. >> do you address in the book his standing as a jazz icon, with the black community, that black americanss standing is huge with white americans, i know that but is he considered like the pinnacle? >> he is now. look, part of what my book is is what scholars call a reception history which is an attempt to try to describe how armstrong is written about at how people responded to him throughout the course of his career. and, like every other jazz musician, armstrong ceased to a great extent to the popular in the black community because it lost interest in jazz as a community. this really troubled him. there is a funny story i tell in the book which i really can't repeat here, about his going to a gig by louis jordan and his was halfway empty and he just couldn't believe what happened. miles davis thought the same way in the 60s about how the racial composition of jazz audiences had changed and yes he was troubled by it. on the other hand again jazz is now a historical music, a historical event rather than a popular music and i think nowadays, pretty much everybody sees armstrong in the same

american issue. and i don't think that that in any way is a black agenda issue or poor people agenda issue. it's an american issue. >> i think it's critically important for us to recognize that throughout our nation's history, poor and working class whites have been pit against people of color. triggering the rise of successive new systems of control. even slavery. you know, many people don't realize that before we had an all black system of slavery, there was a system of bond labor that included both whites and blacks working right alongside each other on plantations. well, when blacks and whites joined together and challenged the plantation elite, and there were slave uprisings or bond laborer uprisings, the way in which plantation owners were able to split the workforce and gain control over their workers was by proposing an all black system of slavery. which led the white folks to believe that they had received some kind of benefit. and they no longer were willing to engage in struggles with the fellow black laborers, with whom they had once joined in struggle. and so, we had an all blac

there are no black americans over there. we need jobs and they are giving them to them. it is really hurting us. guest: not only are illegal immigrants taking the jobs that americans can have, they are also suppressing the wages that americans could do in the same industry. when you pay people off the books, that suppresses the wages of everyone else in construction, food service, what ever it is. i am hearing rumors and hearing talk that other states want to adopt arizonas law. that is why the obama administration is getting very uneasy. this is kind of the equivalent of an immigration tea party movement. it is long overdue. host: next call from washington, curtis on the independent line. caller: thank god for legislators such as yourself. what you're doing is long overdue. i am an african-american male and i cannot believe that the african-american community has not supported in this. i sought out sharp in the of the day and all he spoke about was -- i saw al sharpton the other day and all he spoke about was racial profiling. there is a high murder rate of young black m

black nascar driver. we have a spanish-american war a mexican-american nascar driver, and the black guy that does prognosticating. host: is this a white, male type republican thing? that we are seeing? guest: yes, there is a white male republican thing going on but on a cnn a couple of nights ago we were talking about the chart and james carville was on the show and he picked out nascar and pro bull riding as one of his favorite sports. he is a democrat. we are just looking at tendencies. not saying all fans of nascar or the nfl are democrats. host: should republicans then advertise on pro wrestling? guest: no. in fact, democrats should not advertise on pro wrestling. the audience for pro wrestling skews democratic, but the thing about pro wrestling is it is a very low turnout fan base. so, you are not likely -- no actual voters on crow rate -- wrestling. host: major league soccer? guest: major league soccer has a large hispanic fan base as hispanics historically have a very low turnout rate. so, like wrestling, pro soccer is very low turnout. host: men's and women's tennis has the same size circle as a monster

americans who said in answer to that question i think of myself as a negro. so in the 2000 census form, that check box had exactly those labels. it had blackn, or negro. and the surprise of the 2000 census was in addition to checking that box there were about 50,000 people who went down and wrote in the open-ended space the word "negro." they really wanted to, we inferred, to have that recorded. we analyzed the age distribution of those folks, and over half of them were less than 45 years of age. this was a surprise to us. now, the last decade there wasn't research done on this in the same way. i regret that. i think there should have been some research. my research. my apology is to those who are offended by that word, and it comes with the note that our intention was to have a set of words on the race classification that everyone -- such that every could see at least one word that applied to them. so it was an attempt to be inclusive of all folks that we included. my speculation is in 2020 with the research dwee in the coming decade that word won't appear. i speculate other words are going to change. >> right. i was going to ask that. i

black. african-americans have always been very concerned about getting stopped and in greater proportions.ersey did something about this. what this is saying to police officers in arizona is it's going to be dwh, driving while hispanic. i think once this thing starts happening, think of hispanic police officers who are supposed to stop hispanic drivers. i mean i think that the problem is that this is something that will be very difficult to enforce fairly. let me make one additional point. look, they say there are about 40% of african-americans between 15 and 25 who are in the criminal justice system. well, what would you say that you should stop african-americans because 40% of them may at some point be in the criminal justice system? heck no. so i think this is tough stuff. >> wait a minute, wait a minute. if there is a reasonable suspicion of a problem, i mean police officers always have had that ability. if you've got a driver's license or an i.d. card that shows you belong in the united states, what exactly is the problem? >> but what about a broken taillight, pat? >> peter, suppose t

back. -- wants hugo black, you do not go back. -- once you go black, you do not go back. >> our headliner tonight is a self titled all-american immigrant. he has come a long way from a rosie i add new immigrant to one of the hottest properties in the world economy -- world of comedy. since 2001, he has been a favorite among comedians and audiences alike. ladies and gentlemen, i give you joe wong. [applause] >> good evening, everyone. my name is joe wong. to most people, i had known as, "who?" that is actually my mother's maiden name. [laughter] that is difficult with the credit card security questions. i just want to reassure everybody that i am [unintelligible] i grew up in china. who didn't? my childhood memories are ruined by my [unintelligible] [laughter] when i was an elementary school, as part of the curriculum, [unintelligible] that is where i learned that light travels faster than sound. [laughter] occasionally, he would try to cheer me up with gilts, but he does not do it right. when i was 7, he said to me, " here, son, why is tofu and important to a socialized economy?" five minutes later, i asked him why. he said,

there's black folks all over the planet. african-americans here, black folks here, if we just think that the united states is our only place we got figure out, i think the connection into the world economy is important, too. so, you know -- this is a great thing. >> reporter: chuck, thank you very much. for a moment we're going to listen what's going on on the floor. >> please, do. please, do. >> reporter: we'll go a commercial, come back and listen. so, t.j., we'll listen to some of that after we come back from the commercial break. >> all right, susan. thank you, yes, we will take a quick break here, but thanks 0 to sour susan candiotti and chuck d, political activist under his name up on the screen instead of rapper. certainly he and many others have come a long way getting involved in the movement as well. stay here. also talking about u.s. officials charges dropped against a group of americans accused of trying to kidnap children from haiti. did anyone tell the haitians that news? that's coming up. >>> and the american dream. interrupted

there are no black americans over there. we need jobs and they are giving them to them. it is really hurting us. guest: not only are illegal immigrants taking the jobs that americans can have, they are also suppressing the wages that americans could do in the same industry. when you pay people off the books, that suppresses the wages of everyone else in construction, food service, what ever it is. i am hearing rumors and hearing talk that other states want to adopt arizonas law. that is why the obama administration is getting very uneasy. this is kind of the equivalent of an immigration tea party movement. it is long overdue. host: next call from washington, curtis on the independent line. caller: thank god for legislators such as yourself. what you're doing is long overdue. i am an african-american male and i cannot believe that the african-american community has not supported in this. i sought out sharp in the of the day and all he spoke about was -- i saw al sharpton the other day and all he spoke about was racial profiling. there is a high murder rate of young black m

there are no black americans over there. we need jobs and they are giving them to them. it is really hurting us. guest: not only are illegal immigrants taking the jobs that americans can have, they are also suppressing the wages that americans could do in the same industry. when you pay people off the books, that suppresses the wages of everyone else in construction, food service, what ever it is. i am hearing rumors and hearing talk that other states want to adopt arizonas law. that is why the obama administration is getting very uneasy. this is kind of the equivalent of an immigration tea party movement. it is long overdue. host: next call from washington, curtis on the independent line. caller: thank god for legislators such as yourself. what you're doing is long overdue. i am an african-american male and i cannot believe that the african-american community has not supported in this. i sought out sharp in the of the day and all he spoke about was -- i saw al sharpton the other day and all he spoke about was racial profiling. there is a high murder rate of young black m

you're black mixed, who are you mixed with and then there's black other, because as i say, i was black american living there, but when you look at the english white, it's basically just one category and the question is, what will it take and when will it become desirable for white people to actually describe themselves to the same degree that other races are asked to describe themselves, or is there a fear that there will be a loss of power, because one statement -- >> we're going to leave this recorded program now and t you live to a third day of hearings, this week on the 2008 financial crisis. the focus today, the government-backed home mortgage holding company, fannie mae. witnesses include two former high ranking executives from that organization. phil angelides on you were screen. the treasurer of california and the chairman of the inquiry commission, former house ways and means committee chairman bill thomas of california is co-chair. live coverage on c-span2. >> today we will be examining what occurred at fannie mae and its regulateo, the office of federal housing enterprise oversight,

i don't -- first thing is see, i don't really separate black issues so-called from american issues. in other words i feel this. if black people are basically not doing well in the public education system, well then that's a problem for the country at large. it is not a black problem and when it is only discussed as a black problem, it reduces the significance of it. see, because we're in a period where we actually need every qualified person to do a good job in what they do. and it is not -- so you can't say, i had to speak to some republicans about 20 years ago in washington, d.c. i said if you will fight in a war, you would think that you can just send people to west point and annapolis and not have any basic training and go out and win. you can't do that. you have to train your troops. and so it was interesting. that was the first time they ever thought, right, apparently, this game was in relationship between the running of the country and the quality of the education to the pop liss. and so what -- populace. what i was saying is this. you have to compete with people for whom qua

rrl when woods first won the masters in 1997, he was the first african-american winner at a club that for so long refused to allow black members. today, he's an admitted adu adulterer with a sex addiction.

in your lifetime, which a black person, african-american has been the most effective for civil rights and which white person in your experience has been the most dedicated to changing the civil-rights situation? >>guest: i think i would have to say the leadership of dr. king. the quality of leadership, have to say that in eight surprising way, the leadership that lyndon johnson gave in helping the country get the civil-rights back. >>host: you mentioned mary and how did you get to know were and why was she so important in your life? >> >>guest: she became an adviser to the president of united states. the only african-american woman to have a four year accredited college. and 4b common 1937, to have under tours tutelage, to have the opportunity to see how she worked with the powerful people and the powerless was really a critical element to my whole growth and development. >>cspan: what was she doing in 1937? >>guest: president roosevelt had run her to washington as his adviser on minority affairs for the national youth administration and later she became a special adviser to the presi

. >> every city, we have had the opportunity to change the hearts and minds of black legislators and everyday americans, as well. >> we were afraid that one state would deport us. >> asking congress to stop student deportations for two years and a removal is a tall order. especially in light of what just happened in arizona. new legislation giving more authority to police to deport illegals after increased violence along the border. >> frustration because they have not complied with constitutional responsibilities. >> the students believe that despite the blisters and bad weather that each step will be leaving their country into the right direction. this 1,500 mile trip will end on saturday as a walk through the streets of downtown d.c.. they say they do expect the possibility of multiple arrests. scott thuman, abc 7 news. >>> coming up, strange phone calls are waking up people in the middle of the night. >> why this video of a man lying in the street is causing outrage across the country. >> it could be difficult to keep violent video games away from your kid. and driving all over town. i want one lis

have come to the point where another generation of the special young people, young blacks and whites, latino, native american, that they have come -- they are born in a different time and period and are sailing against the wind blowing against the paths and they are not tied down carrying this heavy load of baggage. >> guest: that's good but they shouldn't remember the baggage is carried, they shouldn't forget that it couldn't recur and come back. we think the nazis are gone. we have to remember the shooting at the museum the day my plea was at a dress rehearsal that its underground. it never goes away so we have to be vigilant. freedom isn't free. you have to fight for it every day. >> host: i want to come back to the play because i think there's important play to have people to see to have this conversation between anne frank and emmett till. do you provide an opportunity for young people and others to engage in dialogue and questioning? >> guest: janet does. she returns almost all of the performances and then has a q&a period following the discussion where the audience can say what did they think, what di

black-white juries. what's wrong with that? >> guest: i think one of the prevailing myths merely by sprinkling african-americans through police departmentsnd prosecutors offices and appointing more black judges that we'll solve the problem of racial baez in the criminal justice system and that's just not accurate. you know, until we change the policies, practices, abandon the design of the institutions, that are responsible for waging the drug war, and eliminate all the financial incentives that currently exist, you know, cash give-aways to local law enforcement agencies and state highway patrols that boost their drug arrest numbers regardless of whether drug crime is going up or down in those communities, you know, drug for fitzroy tour laws, which allow law enforcement agencies to keep for their own use the cash, cars, and homes of people who have been accused of drug offenses, until we change those kind of policies and practices, and the basic structure of this new system of control, just sprinkling people of color into these preexisting institutions, and expecting them to, you know, enforce these policies but in a slightly kinder, ge

many americans, two million, in fact, are being -- are struggling with the economy, but the numbers are clear. black folk, brown folk, poor people are getting crushed by the economy. what are these white men so angry about? >> that's a good question. >> you're right. the numbers of blacks are hurt larger than whites. >> so why the anger? >> well, i would like to address your characterization of the tea partiers as just white men. okay, it's true, 85% are caucasian, but this is the first time i have heard black people complain about this. you can't say everything that's majority white is by definition racist. what about the philadelphia machinists? >> i don't think it's a complaint. it's an observation. >> from steve cohen, white liberal representative -- >> it's like the kkk. >> they're not criticizing their own party movement. when you look at what's happening with that group of people, the republican party is trying to sub sume that group. they want to own it. palin and bachmann says they're merging. i don't know about that. >> 15 seconds each. who benefits most from the tea party angst -- republi