it's he black hat briefings and we are teaming you what the black hats are up to. what the bad guys are doing and how to prepare. it's just gotten shooterrenned down to black hats. and it turns out all these hackers and academics are sort of a crystal ball. you talk to your friends and your hackers and say, what are you working on? i think i found this little edge case with routing. if it's interesting to hem, it's a problem six or nine months in the future for everybody else. sort of like the can anywhere ray in -- canary in the coal mi. the internet of thing wood be a problem years ago. now it's a problem. so companies who wanted to sort of get a head start on what the future problems would, or maybe a new product category and learn what they hackers say is the problem and then we'll build a product and sell it. people come for different reasons and now we're seeing more and more government appearances, raying laters. def con was start because everything was online, bulletin boards no internet or irc, and just meant to put a face to a name. and there's so much mi

it is not that we are black hat criminals, it is the black hat briefings. the idea was, we are telling you what the black hat are doing and how to prepare. thesens out that all hackers and academics are a sort of a crystal ball. you would talk to your friends, your hackers, and say what are , you working on? i found this little edge case with routing. it turns out, if it is interesting to them, it is a problem six or nine months in the future for everybody else. they are the canary in the coal mine, looking at technologies. years ago, saying the internet of things was going to be a problem. now it is a problem. companies who wanted to get a head start looking at future problems, or maybe there is a new product, maybe we should learn what the hacker say the problem is. people, for different reasons. now we are seeing more and more government appearances. regulators, law enforcement. the same sort of purpose. they are trying to figure what is coming next. for def con, it was originally meant to be a party. everything was online, bulletin boards, there was no

it is not that we are a bunch of black hat criminals, it is black hat briefings. we are telling them what the bad guys are doing are doing and how to prepare. it got shortened down to black hat. it turns out that all these hackers and academics are a crystal ball. you would talk to your friends and hackers and say what are you working on? i think i found this little edge case with routing. it turns out if it is , interesting to them, it is a problem six months in the future for everybody else. they are the canary in the coal mine. years ago, saying the internet of things was going to be a problem. now it is a problem. companies who want to get a head start on what the future problems would be, or maybe we should look at what the hackers say the problem is, and build a project and sell it. -- build a product and sell it. people come for different reasons. now we are seeing more government appearances. regulators, law enforcement. same sort of purpose. they are trying to figure what is coming next. def con was originally a party. it was started because everything wa

the first three days or so during black hat. then you go to b-side, a volunteer on the committee for b-side which means i select which talks are presented at the .onference call for papers. ariel robinson: i am going to call out all of the acronyms. cris thomas: i apologize for that. get a staff badge .t b-side i cannot spend a lot of time there. then on friday and saturday, i nick withew with -- assessing his boss, representative hurd. we visited some of the different .illages that defcon that was my experience. that is long. i went -- [please stand by] seemsicy world because it unbridgeable, and is not, so we do everything we can to demonstrate that. have a great time, but i was not at defcon or black cats. atlantiche help of my coastal colleagues and the cavalry, we were at the today track at b-side which included like a mock congressional hearing which was really fun. exercisecyber crisis that put policymakers and hackers to empathize with one another and build understanding of educational awareness. also arranged for curren

in 2002 i started speaking at black hat, i started teaching at black hat, and i have not stopped. i've done for several conferences around the world. this is where i learn new things, this is where i meet some of my best friends, some who i consider family. this is where i exchange information, i validate myself. i enjoy mentoring a few people. is now my role at black hat is more of a veteran. i enjoy teaching the classes. it keeps me sharp, it keeps me focused. i enjoy interacting with other speakers. i don't get to research into new things on my own as much. i force myself to research new things by coming to these events. by teaching, i have to stay ahead of the curve, above of the students. by meeting other speakers and picking up the talks, i get to know what's the latest and greatest around. and then, of course, it's sort of like a pilgrimage. every year i've got to be here this time of year. i hope i can make it to 20 years of black hatting. >> host: are individuals and companies investing enough in cybersecurity? >> guest: there's a lot of money in cybersecurity. they're in

jeff: people get black hat confused. it is black hat briefings. the idea was, we are letting you know what the bad guys are doing and how to prepare. it got shortened down. it turns out that all these hackers and academics are a crystal ball. you would talk to your friends and say what are you working on? i found this little edge case with routing. if it is interesting to them, it is a problem in the future for everybody else. they are the canary in the coal mine. years ago, saying the internet of things was going to be a problem. now it is a problem. companies who want to get a head start, way -- maybe there is a problem, then go build a product and sell it. people come for different reasons. now we are seeing more government appearances. regulators, law enforcement. they are trying to figure what is coming next. def con was originally a party. everything was online. there was no internet. it was meant to put a face to a name. there was so much misinformation that it was no sense of a factual well when you could learn the truth. everything was wo

with black hat and desk on founder geoff moss. drugs this -- drags this is really a hobby. , people hadnet grew money at risk. people started, getting jobs doing internet security. announcer: listen using the free c-span radio app. >> yesterday, president trump outlined his plan for a u.s. afghanistan. today, secretary of state rex tillerson spoke to reporters and explain the strategies and afghanistan the trump administration will pursue. mr. tillerson also talked about north korea. his remarks are 25 minutes. >> good afternoon, all. i thought it would take a few moments to offer a few comments on the strategy for south asia that president trump outlined last night in his address to the nation and then i will take a few of your questions on that subject. i think the president did a fairly thorough job in terms of describing the new military approach and i think the important point in that is a conditions-based approached as opposed to a time-based approach with timetables. i think the president has been quite clear that what will

if there's one week of stuff in vegas that isn't staying in vegas, it's this week's bsides, black hatous def con gatherings. this is the week where hackers rub up against law enforcers and everyone peeks over each other‘s shoulders and networks. so, let's get straight into the action. and for our first act of the show, daniel here has got an extra piece of software running, allowing him to hear what's being typed on the other end of a skype call. so how does it work? the software during a skype call learns how your keyboard sounds like and if you later, during the call, type something sensitive, like a password or e—mail, we can understand what you've typed using machine—learning algorithms. this is because each key has a unique fingerprint based on the position of the key on the keyboard. the suggested results from what our victim might be typing are listed on the screen. it's spotted every word except one, but when asked to choose the words to make the most likely sentence, it's not so on the money. so, this is scott helme. he's notjust our victim, he's also a security researcher wh

tinfoil hats. black badges. twenty-four kerry gold, platinum rings, 25,000 hackers in a hallway. issues, cars and trucks and medical devices like this one from the 1870's. we had all those voting computers we would sign of the things. we did something historic we'll do it again next year. that was a challenge. spare that was from a facebook live it the of floating village and now we will get started with the panel. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] now we would like to invite the panel to come up. >> thanks laura green to be part of this panel. first to have three conferences also black cat so could you explain the differences could they are geared towards. >> but it started 25 years ago with the death:and then it went to hang out and see each other in person but then 21 years ago then the vendor sponsored the event that has a lot of trading as well as a vendor area but it is very commercial selling their wares but then the last one grew out of talks that were rejected people thought there were still really good house so they created a third conference a

. >> we are at the black hat conference in las vegas talking about cyber security and cyber threats with the ceo of net squared. >> it's not easy to patch a very large organization and keep on patching it months after months. think ofhave to really the defense. to itnot keep reacting anymore. we have to look for threats. we to set booby-traps. we have to create customized environments. we have to engage in threat hunting. >> watch the communicators monday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span2. this week on real america, give yourself the green light. the 1954 general motors film encouraging citizens to support programs to improve roads and highways. here is a preview. [whistling] >> hey pal, what is the do? >> load and unload buddy. with 54 million vehicles on our streets and roads today, 50% more than before the war, by 1975, they say we will be driving 85 million. usa. will you stop honking, we are not going anywhere. alley, morningy rush and the evening weight. fight your way home from work. you think you have it made, good job. so you get a hold of the suburbs, away from the city smoke co

. >> we are the black hat conference in las vegas talking about cyber security and cyber threats with ceo of net square. >> it's not easy to dispatch a large organization and patch it month after month. today we have two really think of proactive defense. we cannot keep reacting to attacks anymore. we have to turn the concept around to set booby-traps, to create an environment. we have to engage in-- >> watch the communicator's tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span2. >> this week at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, tonight for formal national security advisers who served to the last two presidents including stephen hadley, national security advisor for president george w. bush. >> on a little worried. i think we are in a dangerous time with russia. i think vladimir putin has decided americans are anti- russian. 's ambassador says all the time there is no constituency for us russian relations in the us and he is basically saying if you think i'm an enemy i'm going to show you what it's like to have an enemy in russia. >> tuesday the future of the internet. hears white house interim chief

should be let off lightly, but it is an opportunity to say, we want you to be a white hat not a black hatas done with the uk intelligence agency after the nhs cyber attack. our intelligence agencies are not able to do what some of these individuals are able to do. we need to utilise them and get in an international service. we have reported on the spate of acid attacks in london, the saudi embassy are following up and issuing a warning to people visiting from saudi arabia. a really sad story, a p pa re ntly saudi arabia. a really sad story, apparently following an attack in knightsbridge, which is populated by tourists frequently from the middle east, not least because it has harrods and they are wealthy. there are attacks in the wealthy parts, not just the are attacks in the wealthy parts, notjust the poorer parts of london. what is sad is that there are 19.1 million visitors to london, and the proportion of attacks, acid attacks are particularly evil compared to muggings or any other type. it is a small proportion for a major city, i don't want to downplay it. at the same time, when the

i'm scott helm, here to give you a 101 to black hat, bsides and def con, which all happen during oneegas. this is a very, very popular course, we've got some of the latest stuff that we've found in our own hacking that we do for clients and we put it into the class. the good guys have got to learn it because the bad guys already do. i've embedded some code into the page and then when you load the page it puts that message up, that it's not supposed to do. it was a nice introductory level course. so obviously this could be used for harm and the flip side of this is, if you were setting up to be a cybercriminal would you come to a formal conference like this and register to do a training course under your name? or would you go and learn how to do this on the dark web somewhere else? i don't think we would really expect to see criminals coming here to learn how to be criminals. so we are in the vendor hall right now. this is where all the different companies have their stands, they can demo their products. this represents what they do inside your network, in that an attacker now doesn't

. >> followed by a conversation with black hat and devcon founder jeff moss. >> there were no jobs in information security for any of us. the only people were people in the military or maybe banks. this is a hobby. and thereernet grew were jobs, and people were putting things online and there was money at risk, all of a sudden, hackers started getting jobs doing security. >> watch on c-span and c-span.org and listen using the free c-span radio app. >> president trump spoke today at the american legion convention being held in reno, nevada saying it is time to heal the wounds that divide the country and outlined proposed changes at the veterans differ -- affairs department and signed a bill that would modernize and speed up the veterans appeal process. this is about 25 minutes. [applause] [cheers and applause] president trump: thank you, commander schmidt for that wonderful introduction and for your steadfast devotion to our country. i want to thank all of our distinguished guests with us today, including hud secretary secretary david chilton and former secretary of defense bob gates.

i started teaching at black hat. severalone this for companies around the world. this is where i meet my best friends, some of whom i consider family. myself and enjoy mentoring a few people. i enjoy teaching the classes. interacting with other speakers. by teaching we had to stay ahead of the curve of all of the students. it is sort of like a pilgrimage. it's a ritual. i hope i can make it to 20 years or so. >> are individuals and companies investing enough in cyber security? >> there are a lot of money in these things in cyber security. whether the investment was in the right direction or not, we are investing in technology. technology can only help you secure your organization to a certain extent. the greatest lack of investment is in the mindset of board members. to proactively defend the organization. if the board member doesn't buy ofo the process, no amount money is going to save you in the end. value attimated core the board level. if not we can keep trying and sinking tons of money without the desired outcome. >> we are on the verge of the internet of thi

we at the black hat conference talking about service of security -- cyber security.patching aeep month after month, that is a good thing. thinke we really have to of proactive defense. we cannot keep reacting to a tax anymore. we have turned the whole concept around. we have set traps, we will create customized environments. we will engage unprecedented. >> the communicators on c-span2. american history tv is on c-span3 every weekend. featuring museum tours, archival the presidency. the civil war and more coming here is a clip from a recent program. he was so varied, and impassioned about engineering, detroit news he was maybe the first industrial user of photography in the world. he used photography and became he used thiswere method. he was buried in his interest. quote that use a michelle help me track down. to her mother early and the war. she used this phrase. it is though his soul is on fire with indignation. i thought wait a minute, his soul is on fire in general. my editor disagreed with me in general. was highly time he self regarding, he was irritable , he

just one row behind jenny from the block and her love, ex diddy in a black hat.had a moment with steve harvey, and with jamie foxx. jamie was down to party with everybody. >> oh! out of nowhere. >> it was actually diddy's >> with the guys, with the ladies -- excuse us, charlize. her co-star, chris hemsworth, was clear on who he was rooting for. >> you in on mcgregor, mate? >> yeah buddy. all right! >> more star run-ins -- check out leo with kevin connolly on one side, and party boy, orlando bloom, on the other. ♪ that our flag was still there ♪ >> demi lovato slayed the national anthem and posed with champ mayweather and with mcgregor backstage. the irishman lost, but got much applause from this spirited scotsman who was expecting the unexpected. >> conor mcgregor kicking his ass, which is probably gonna happen, but i mean that's what i'm looking forward to. he tried as best he could, but he couldn't do it. floyd mayweather was just too tough. >> all right. well, jamie foxx says party fouls, and had this to say about his "ocean's" co-star, george clooney being a

we are at the black hat conference in las vegas with jeff maltin, executive director of the stevenson national center for security research and training at louisiana state university. >> the hospitals are packed almost daily. whackeds are getting almost daily. we will not eliminate this threat, we have to learn to live with it. we have lived for millenniums with the flu virus. we never are eradicated the flu virus, we learned to live with it. you do certain things when you are exposed. you try to get a shot and an oculi yourself. you isolate yourself from other people who have it. there are hygienic measures you take in the physical world that are necessary in the digital world. >> watch the communicators monday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span two. >> >> iranian president hassan rouhani has been sworn in before a gathering of dignitaries from our them 100 countries. he accused the u.s. of not complying with the nuclear agreement reached in 2015. this event is courtesy of iran's press tv. it's just over 30 minutes. >> heavenly god, the compassionate and merciful, i, as the president of

. >> monday on the communicators, the black hat conference. we're at louisiana state university. >> the hospital is being attacked almost daily. the banks are being lacked almost daily now. we have to learn to live with this threat, we are not going to eliminate it. we have lived with millenniums virus.e flu we never eradicated it, we learned how to live with it. we do things to decrease exposure, isolate yourself from others. the measures you take in the physical world we must down do in the cyber world. announcer: watch monday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span two. >>

. >> followed by a conversation with black hat and defcon founder.oing only people security were people in the military and maybe banks. this is really a hobby. as the internet grew and there were jobs and there was money at risk, all of a sudden hackers started getting jobs insecurity. >> watch on c-span and at c-span.org. listen using the free c-span radio app. >> "washington journal" continues. host: joining us to continue our conversation on confederate monuments is professor al brophy. a recent piece of his has the title, why the case for the removal of confederate memorials is not so clear-cut. could you tell us why? guest: sure. i think the monuments are largely relics of the bad old days. i think it is important to leave them

announcer: followed by a conversation with black hat and devcon founder. >> the only people doing security were maybe people in the military or banks. so, this was really a hobby. as the internet grew and there were jobs and people were putting things online and there was money at risk, all of a sudden hackers started getting jobs in security. announcer: next, from today's washington journal, johns hopkins medical university russell spence, later, another professor on efforts to remove federal statues. joining us from baltimore, maryland, is lester spence. he is talking about the issue of confederate monuments. good morning. host: you sent out a tweet recently on the topic of monuments. this shows the face of a monument, but it does not show the statue. can you explain this picture and the thought behind it? guest: that particular statue was a statue where i played johns hopkins one stays and fridays. i have seen that statue dozens of times. i looked at it and saw it represented the confederacy. it is shocking to live in the 21st century and see a statue representing the confederacy near w

the black hat conference. we're at louisiana state university. >> the hospital is being attacked almost daily. the banks are being lacked almost daily now. we have to learn to live with this threat, we are not going to eliminate it. we have lived with millenniums virus.e flu we never eradicated it, we learned how to live with it. we do things to decrease exposure, isolate yourself from others. the measures you take in the physical world we must down do in the cyber world. announcer: watch monday at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span two. washington journal with jose mcgill crews. from washington journal, this is about 25 minutes. >> what is ms 13 and how did it get its name? that: ms-13 is a gang started in southern california in the early 1980's. it was originally formed by immigrants coming to the united the civileing from war in central america. these gangs started in the city and then expanded to central america. many of the people who formed ms-13 went back to el salvador thee they grew up in 1990's, especially

theonday night on communicators, we are at the black hat conference in las moulton,h jeff executive director of the stevenson national center for security research and training at louisiana state university. federal government, mark's face industries, banks -- banks are getting hacked almost daily. we're not going to eliminate this threat. we have got to learn to live with it. we have lived for millennia with the flu virus. we have learned to live with it. youdo certain things when feel exposed. it's going around, you get a shot, try to inoculate yourself, isolate yourself from other folks that have the flu. there are titanic measures taken in the physical world that are now used in the digital world. >> c-span two. >> out next on american history tv, from the national constitution center in philadelphia, editor-in-chief -- beast, thely founding fathers warning to future generations. that presidentes washington warns future generations about the dangers of bipartisanship, excessive debt, and foreign wars. this is about an hour. >> we are enormously fortunate today to have as our guest john a

." >> monday night on "the communicators," we are at the black hat conference in las vegas with the director of the stephenson national center for security research and training at louisiana state university. >> the hospitals are packed almost daily. the industries, the banks, we are not going to eliminate this threat. we have to learn to live with it. --have lived with millennial millenniums with the flu virus. you do certain things when you are exposed. when the flu is going around, you get a shot, isolate yourself, there are hygienic measures you take in the world that have now gone to digital world. >> watch "the communicators," on c-span2. teaoday on "in-depth," party activist, author and activist chris van hollen is our guest. >> everybody has an idea that the federal government is out of control. the most asked question i get, what do you suppose that is? what do we do about it? been teaching the constitution properly for the last 150 years, we would know what to do. >> she is the author of several books, including essential stories for junior patriots, and during our live three-hour

tonight on "the communicators>" -- at the black hat conference in las vegas talking about cyber securitynd cyber threats with the ceo of net square. chest but it is not easy to catch an organization -- >> it is not easy to patch and organization. we cannot keep reacting to attacks anymore. for traps.look we have to set traps. we have to create customized environments. we have to engage in a hunting. communicators" tonight on c-span two. >> "washington journal" continues. host: gideon rose, editor of "foreign affairs" magazine joins us now to talk about the trump administration. i wanted to start with your view on how the trip administration has handled the north korean problem over the f l

. >> followed by a conversation with black hat and death con founder. >> there are new jobs and information -- there were no jobs information security for any of us. the only people doing at work may banks. this was a hobby. as the internet grew and there were jobs and people were putting things online and there was money at risk, all of a sudden hackers started getting jobs doing security. watch on c-span and c-span.org. >> washington journal continues. host: we welcome kelly whitener, associate professor at georgetown health policy institute joins us to discuss an item on congress's to do list this fall. a decision on whether to renew the children's health program. remind us what this is and who is eligible. chip is the health insurer just children's health insurance program. it was started because there were a lot of uninsured children that were in families that earn too much to qualify for medicaid , but not enough to where private insurance would be affordable or even available in some cases. maybe the parents work in were employer-sponsored coverage wasn't an option for the hall famil

. >> here at black hat we are hearing the term social engineering quite a bit. what does that mean? . >> it means taking advantage of people. taught inthat i just estonia was all about social engineering. we taught people how to do reconnaissance, how to figure out who they can attack in corporations. who would have the most vulnerability on clicking on anime email and allowing people to hack it. that is called targeting spearfishing. we taught them how to do that, who is who, who would be the most likely person if you're able to compromise their identity, would give you the most beneficial access to that network? >> what is the point of getting into a network? jeff: it depends on your motivation but basically it is financially driven. if you want to figure competition to the market, and you want to figure out their secrets, or get into their intellectual property, or their markets energies from an acquisition or merger perspective, there are a lot of reasons. in the defense department of course, it is the weaponization or military advantage. whoever gets to own a network, basically

. >> followed by a conversation with black hat and death con founder. >> there are new jobs and information- there were no jobs information security for any of us. the only people doing at work may banks. this was a hobby. as the internet grew and there were jobs and people were putting things online and there was money at risk, all of a sudden hackers started getting jobs doing security. watch on c-span and c-span.org. >> washington journal continues. host: we welcome kelly whitener, associate professor at georgetown health policy institute joins us to discuss an item

moulton, here at black hat, we're hearing the term "social engineering." what does that mean. >> guest: taking advantage of people and there's a lot of different ways to do that. the class i just taught in estonia was all about social engineering with taught people have to find the people who are -- people that would click on an e-mail with mama-licious packet so they can explode their credentials and network ask that's called targeting spear fishing. we taught them who is who in the zoo and who can compromise your identities. >> host: what this point of getting into a network? >> guest: it depend on your motivation. basically financially driven. if you want to beat your competition to market and you want to go out and figure out their secret sauce or get intellectual properties, there's a lot of reasons, but the n the defense department it's the weaponization of the military advantage, whoever gets to own the network rules the battlefield. so there's -- depends on your application. i would say that for mow most part it's right now agreed, financial advant

at the black hat conference in las vegas talking about cyber security and cyber threats. easy to pass a really large organization. we cannot reacting to the tax anymore. we have to turn the whole concept around. create customized environments. we have to engage in hunting. >> was the communicators on c-span two. >> american history tv, holocaust survivor estelle laughlin talks "transcending -- darkness." she was forced into a ghetto and later in concentration camps where they were rescued. the holocaust memorial museum in washington dc posted this event. it is just over an hour. >> good morning and welcome to the united states holocaust memorial museum.

monday night, on the communicators, we are at the black hat conference in las vegas. >> the hospitals are impacted almost daily. the banks are getting whacked almost daily. we will not eliminate this. we have to learn to live with it. millennials what the flu viruses, we never eradicated. we isolate ourselves. there is hygienic measures that we take in the physical world

. >> monday night, on the communicators, we're at the black hat conference in las vegas with the executivetor of security and training at the louisiana state university. >> the federal government, banks , we're not going to eliminate the threat. the got to learn to live with it . the flunever eradicated virus, we've learn to live with it. you do certain things and you know you are exposed to new note the flu is going around, there are hygienic measures that you change -- that you take. >> watch monday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span2. >> american history tv is on c-span3 on every weekend. featuring programs on the presidency, the civil war, and more. here's a clip from a recent program. can, from the national constitution center philadelphia, a look at president george washington's farewell address about the dangers of foreign wars. here's a preview. >> you can watch this and other american history programs on her website, where all our video is archive. /history.w.c-span.org >> we've been on the road meeting winners of this years studentcam competition. the second prize winners were hande

we are at the black hat conference in las vegas with jeff maltin, executive director of the stevensonnal center for security research and training at louisiana state university. >> the hospitals are packed almost daily. whackeds are getting almost daily. we will not eliminate this threat, we have to learn to live with it. we have lived for millenniums with the flu virus. we never are eradicated the flu virus, we learned to live with it. you do certain things when you are exposed. you try to get a shot and an oculi yourself. you isolate yourself from other people who have it. there are hygienic measures you take in the physical world that are necessary in the digital world. >> watch tom

moulton, here at black hat we're hearing the term social engineering quite a bit. what does that mean? >> guest: it means taking advantage of people, and there's a lot of different varieties of ways to do that. the class i just taught in estonia was all about social engineering. we taught people how to do reconnaissance, figure out who they should attack in a corporation that would have the most high probability of actually clicking onen an e-mail so we could exploit their credentials and potentially their network, and cha's called -- and that's called targeting spear phishing. we taught them how to do that, who's who in the zoo, who's the most likely person would give you the most beneficial access the that n. >> host: what's the point of getting into a network? >> guest: ah, it depends op your motivation, but basically it's financially-driven, right? it depends . the you want to beat your competition to market and you want to go out and figure out their secret sauce or get their intellectual property or their market strategies from an acquisition and merger persp

wore by black hat in case there was any dubious about how far conservative i am in. he uses west wing victimizing tactics in his stick. and now shame on you. saul died in carmel by the sea where he was taking care of his ex-wife from whom he had a friendly divorce. not dabbling in the waves. he had a heart attack while there caring for her. but this is typical contorting of saul alinsky's legacy. barack obama was 11 years old when alinksky died. they never met. i spoke to and interviewed a friend of mine, arny graph, who took over the industrial foundations and mentored barack obama for about two days or a week at a seminar. barack obama was mostly interested in how arnie was raising a racially mixed family. he turned away definitively from the alinksky message of community organizing to give power to the people against the government and the olgark telling him he wants to become a powerful political figure like a judge or lawyer. hillary clinton met saul alinsky two or three times and wrote her honor thesis about him and turned down an opportunity to work with him b

by a conversation with black hat and deaf confounder jeff moss. >> there were no jobs in security for us. so this is really a hobby. well as the internet grew and there were jobs, and people were putting things online and there's money at risk, all of a sudden hackers started getting job doing security. >> watch on c-span and c-span.org. listen using the free c-span radio app. >> there's more american history tv coming up next. with a look at watergate. among the speaker former senator lowell weicker who was part of the select committee tasked with investigating the watergate break in. he joins former congressional staffers to talk about their work in the early to mid-70s and some of the pair lels between president richard nixon and the current trump administration. moderated by lesley stahl. this discussion is under an hour and a half. >> i'm gordon freedman. thank you. three or four months ago maybe we should get people together i. i thought that's a good idea. i started trying to find people. it was difficult. then stuff started happening in dc that was vaguely reminiscent to some

23-year-old marcus hutchins, detained, tens of thousands of hackers that came to the city during black hations. health care company expected to earn 2.48 on $10 billion in revenue. cigna shares are up this year, up more than 32%, beautiful chart you're looking at. this is a nice story. sixth grader in north eastern indiana who was being bullied. showed up first day of middle school with some help with more than 50 bikers, local bike shop ownler heard about the bullying and the school welcomed the gang and it really a beautiful story. cheryl: what a great story. lauren: i know, i hope the bullying stopped for him. thank you to those bikers. cheryl: that was a great story. we have another big story for you. we are less than three hours away from the july job's report. 183,000 jobs with unemployment rate falling 4.3%, 16-year low. joining us rob morgan, rob, good morning. >> good morning, cheryl. cheryl: we were talking about wages earlier this week. paychecks seem to be getting bigger for workers. is wages the real story today? >> i think so. i think the fed has been somewhat in a box hire.

by a conversation with black hat and defcon founder jeff moss. >> there were no jobs in information security for any of us. the only people who were doing security were maybe people in the military or maybe banks. so this is really a hobby. well, as the internet grew, and there were job, and people are putting things online and there's money at risk, all a sudden, hackers started getting jobs doing security. >> watch on c-span and c-span.org. and listen using the free c-span radio app. >>> american history tv continues now with a look at the historical and political legacy of former house speaker newt gingrich. this was part of a two-day conference hosted by the library of congress. it's just under an hour and a half. >> this is our final panel on the congress in history on newt gingrich. arguably one of the most influential speakers of the house in the past 100 years. i think there's no dispute we're all living in the era and legacy of newt gingrich. so i'm going to turn it over to jacob strauss, who's our chair. for the panel from the congressional research service. >> thank you, colleen.