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army black hawk helicopter colliding. the emergency calls were immediate. >> crash, crash, crash, this is alert three. crash, crash, crash, this is alert three. >> david: american airlines flight 5342 from wichita, kansas, was coming in from landing, just 2,400 feet left to go. >> did you see that? >> david: here's images of the deadly collision now being closely examined by federal authorities. the moment captured on an earth cam live stream at the kennedy center. the horror lighting up the night sky in washington. a fire ball in the air sending both aircraft plummeting into the icy waist-deep waters of the potomac. the passenger jet breaking into multiple parts. some 300 fire responders on the scene in minutes, conducting a massive search and rescue operation. emergency vehicles lining up along the potomac river, using their lights to illuminate the river. helicopters flying overhead, using their search lights to scan the dark frigid waters. dive teams searching in the water, barely above freezing. late today, d.c. fire
army black hawk helicopter colliding. the emergency calls were immediate. >> crash, crash, crash, this is alert three. crash, crash, crash, this is alert three. >> david: american airlines flight 5342 from wichita, kansas, was coming in from landing, just 2,400 feet left to go. >> did you see that? >> david: here's images of the deadly collision now being closely examined by federal authorities. the moment captured on an earth cam live stream at the kennedy center. the...
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black hawks are a frequent sight. there is air car door above the potomac river where helicopters fly. the pentagon is located just on the other side of the potomac on the other side of reagan international airplane. black hawks land there and fly around this region. right now, there are anxious family members awaiting word. there are no reports of survivors. water temperatures in the potomac are near freezing. yesterday was a warmer day, about 60 degrees, this region has seen arctic temperatures as we saw on inauguration day. potomac had sheets of ice covering it a few days ago and water temperature is near freezing. in a state from u.s. figure skatingy we are told there are members of u.s. figure skating aboard fly 5342. u.s. figure skating can confirm several members were aboard flight 5342 which collided with the helicopter yesterday in washington, d.c. athletes, coachings and family members were returning home from camp held in conjunction with u.s. figure skating championship in wichita, kansas. we are devastate
black hawks are a frequent sight. there is air car door above the potomac river where helicopters fly. the pentagon is located just on the other side of the potomac on the other side of reagan international airplane. black hawks land there and fly around this region. right now, there are anxious family members awaiting word. there are no reports of survivors. water temperatures in the potomac are near freezing. yesterday was a warmer day, about 60 degrees, this region has seen arctic...
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the black hawk might have flown outside its approved flight plan and flying higher than its al allowed altitude. both of the passenger jets' black boxes have been recovered. one, the cockpit voice recorder has some water intrusion. he said that's normal and both recorders should be salvageable. we also just learned the helicopter's two recording devices, they're both contained in one box, and that box has also been recovered tonight. abc's gio benitez covers aviation and he's on the scene tonight leading us off. >> reporter: tonight, salvage teams on scene set to begin pulling the wreckage of the deadliest plane crash in nearly 24 years from the icy potomac river, starting with the black hawk helicopter. crews dealing with bad weather all day, scanning the waters with sonar, the remains of 41 of the 67 victims now recovered. sources telling abc news many of the remaining victims are believed to be trapped in the jet's fuselage. >> we have right now two distinct debris fields. the good news is based on the initial mapping, while there are some small aspects of that debris field, there a
the black hawk might have flown outside its approved flight plan and flying higher than its al allowed altitude. both of the passenger jets' black boxes have been recovered. one, the cockpit voice recorder has some water intrusion. he said that's normal and both recorders should be salvageable. we also just learned the helicopter's two recording devices, they're both contained in one box, and that box has also been recovered tonight. abc's gio benitez covers aviation and he's on the scene...
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bring in retired black hawk -- >> ainsley: neither of them? >> steve: no, the black hawk. let's bring in retired black hawk helicopter pilot lieutenant col colonel. thank you for joining us. >> good morning, i wish under different circumstances. >> steve: trying to figure out why it appears that the black hawk essentially flew into the plane that was on final approach. about half-hour ago we had michael waltz, national security guy on, he said one thing they will look at is whether or not the pilots were wearing night vision goggles. night vision goggles, they affect your depth of field, they probably also affect what you can see around you, right? >> that's true. it takes your normal field of vision from what you see normally to down to 40 degree and that affects each pilot in the front and you have one crew chief in the back, one side of the aircraft where a good chunk you cannot see beyond part of the side wall. it is relevant point to know whether or not they went unaided, basic night flying or under night vision goggles. one concern here from the video that i saw, tha
bring in retired black hawk -- >> ainsley: neither of them? >> steve: no, the black hawk. let's bring in retired black hawk helicopter pilot lieutenant col colonel. thank you for joining us. >> good morning, i wish under different circumstances. >> steve: trying to figure out why it appears that the black hawk essentially flew into the plane that was on final approach. about half-hour ago we had michael waltz, national security guy on, he said one thing they will look at...
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at least not in the black hawks i flew. what is interesting is how low this collision seems to have happened. from the video, from the footage that i'm looking at. we're talking just about 2 or 300ft. and so it would be interesting to know exactly how high this incident happened at. but the black hawk would not be equipped with the same type of equipment that the commercial airliner would have. >> senator, what are the visibility vulnerabilities on a black hawk? what are the areas of sight that are difficult? angles above. looking up, looking down, looking left, looking right. >> well, i mean, it's actually pretty, pretty good. you have you have the greenhouse above you, which are the windows above your head. you've got the chin bubble underneath you, your doors. and, you know, usually the black hawk flies with the two pilots, but usually there's a crew chief looking out the side. sometimes you have another, another member of the crew looking out. usually the crew chief would be looking out one side. the other member of the
at least not in the black hawks i flew. what is interesting is how low this collision seems to have happened. from the video, from the footage that i'm looking at. we're talking just about 2 or 300ft. and so it would be interesting to know exactly how high this incident happened at. but the black hawk would not be equipped with the same type of equipment that the commercial airliner would have. >> senator, what are the visibility vulnerabilities on a black hawk? what are the areas of...
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over the nation's capitol, black hawks are a frequent sight and over the potomac river, this army blackth when the collision occurred above potomac. flight 5342 weas on final approach about to land, pilots would have been focused on the runway. we have anxious family members waiting information on their loved ones. right now no information on survivors. waters have been frigid in the democratic area as you saw during the inauguration. there were u.s. figure skaters on board. u.s. figure skating association says members of the figure skating team returning from national development camp held at u.s. figure skating championship and we just received word kremlin said there were russians on board the flight, as well, part of 2025 u.s. figure skating championships held last week in wichita and new transportation secretary sean duffy who was sworn in on tuesday was at a press conference at 1:00 a.m. along with mayor muriel bowser. reagan airport. on a separate flight coming from new york, alejandro mayorkas was on board in first class, that plane was diverted and returned to new york and mayo
over the nation's capitol, black hawks are a frequent sight and over the potomac river, this army blackth when the collision occurred above potomac. flight 5342 weas on final approach about to land, pilots would have been focused on the runway. we have anxious family members waiting information on their loved ones. right now no information on survivors. waters have been frigid in the democratic area as you saw during the inauguration. there were u.s. figure skaters on board. u.s. figure skating...
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navy black hawk helicopter.he airliner was seconds from landing on runway 33 at reagan international airport. the airliner was a crj 700 series, that's a regional jet. 64 people on board. 60 passengers and four crew with three soldiers aboard the black hawk. the army in a state saying we can confirm that the aircraft involved in tonight's incident was army ua 60 black hawk helicopter from bravo 12th aviation battalion fort bell advisor during a training flight. we are working with local officials and provide additional information once it becomes available. fort bell advisor is about 14 miles south of here. that unit flies vip, army brass around the nation's capitol. we are told none on board. frequent frequent site over the nation's capitol. air corridor above interstate 395 and over the potomac river where this army black hawk helicopter was flying flying south from the nation's capital over the potomac. 5342 was come in from the south making a right turn -- if you have that map again, guys, to show you bankin
navy black hawk helicopter.he airliner was seconds from landing on runway 33 at reagan international airport. the airliner was a crj 700 series, that's a regional jet. 64 people on board. 60 passengers and four crew with three soldiers aboard the black hawk. the army in a state saying we can confirm that the aircraft involved in tonight's incident was army ua 60 black hawk helicopter from bravo 12th aviation battalion fort bell advisor during a training flight. we are working with local...
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army black hawk helicopter, a, uh, 60 black hawk helicopter that was on a routine training. according to a spokeswoman for the joint task force national capital region. so a standard flight, at least a fairly standard flight for the black hawks we see flying all the time up and down the potomac and through the national capital region, through the airspace that black hawks in this area would have been very familiar with. there was a crew of three on board the black hawk helicopter. we have learned that already. so the information here is that the flight was, according to a spokeswoman for a joint task force, national capital region, out of davidson army airfield, fort belvoir, which is about ten 1112 miles south southwest, really almost due south, of reagan national airport and had been flying in this region. it is unclear at this point how long the army black hawk had been in the air. but again, the military at this point, the army and the joint task force that's in charge of this flight and this area says the flight was on a routine training flight and was operating in this
army black hawk helicopter, a, uh, 60 black hawk helicopter that was on a routine training. according to a spokeswoman for the joint task force national capital region. so a standard flight, at least a fairly standard flight for the black hawks we see flying all the time up and down the potomac and through the national capital region, through the airspace that black hawks in this area would have been very familiar with. there was a crew of three on board the black hawk helicopter. we have...
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it has collided a black hawk military with a black hawk military helicopter and we understand army soldierstion as well as the ntsb, are
it has collided a black hawk military with a black hawk military helicopter and we understand army soldierstion as well as the ntsb, are
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why did a black hawk helicopter collide with an american airlines jet? the deadliest crash in nearly 24 years. >> tragically, last night, a mistake was made. >> we're inside the investigation. >> what went on in the cockpit of the black hawk? put them right in the flight path of the american jet. >> the black boxes just recovered. as the search for answers intensifies. >> we are going to leave no stone unturned. >> how could this happen in one of the nation's most secure air spaces? what we're learning tonight. plus, remembering the lives lost, the group of talented teens on their way to skating stardom. >> he's, like, was a force of nature. >> the young copilot just beginning his career. >> he was so young and he was excited about life. >> and olympic superstar nancy kerrigan supporting the devastated figure skating devastated figure skating community. ohhh, it's mesmerizing. i can't look away. cleaning that greasy mess... and not even scrubbing. well, fluff my feathers. dawn platinum is ba-ringing it. you know it! it cuts through the grease better than
why did a black hawk helicopter collide with an american airlines jet? the deadliest crash in nearly 24 years. >> tragically, last night, a mistake was made. >> we're inside the investigation. >> what went on in the cockpit of the black hawk? put them right in the flight path of the american jet. >> the black boxes just recovered. as the search for answers intensifies. >> we are going to leave no stone unturned. >> how could this happen in one of the nation's...
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army black hawk helicopter. and so now, as you been seeing here, yeah, the recovery effort underway right now. kron 4 sarah stinson has chance to talk with retired pilot about some of the factors that may have caused this crash. >> and american airlines plane landing at the reagan national airport collided with a helicopter wednesday night video from the kennedy center observation desk captured the crash. you can see a fireball and then both aircrafts plummeting into the potomac river. this plane was flying from wichita, kansas, to dc with around 60 passengers and 4 crew aboard the helicopters known as a black hawk. it had 3 people on board the associated press reports that it was on a training flight. look at the ambulance. first responders from multiple agencies immediately started a desperate search for survivors in the icy river. retired pilot doug rice flew professionally with american airlines for 35 years and has landed at the reagan national airport. many times he immediately looked into what might have
army black hawk helicopter. and so now, as you been seeing here, yeah, the recovery effort underway right now. kron 4 sarah stinson has chance to talk with retired pilot about some of the factors that may have caused this crash. >> and american airlines plane landing at the reagan national airport collided with a helicopter wednesday night video from the kennedy center observation desk captured the crash. you can see a fireball and then both aircrafts plummeting into the potomac river....
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another three were onboard the black hawk helicopter.ng the victims a group of elite figure skaters and families returning from a training camp in kansas. joining us now, nbc news correspondent erin mclaughlin in arlington, virginia, for us. erin, what do we know about the recovery efforts at this hour? >> reporter: well, kate, it is still underway. we know from officials that they have managed to recover dozens of bodies from the river, but those efforts still ongoing as you mentioned. victims onboard that fated plane flight were members of the figure skating community. they were on their way home from an elite figure skating camp in kansas. two of the victims, teenagers, spencer lane and jenna hahn, members of a club in boston, figure skating club. nancy care again, the former olympian, is an alumni of that club. take a listen to what she in to say about the tragedy. >> when you find out, you know, you know some of the people on the plane, even a bigger blow. we just wish them well. like the families, the courage and the strength to ma
another three were onboard the black hawk helicopter.ng the victims a group of elite figure skaters and families returning from a training camp in kansas. joining us now, nbc news correspondent erin mclaughlin in arlington, virginia, for us. erin, what do we know about the recovery efforts at this hour? >> reporter: well, kate, it is still underway. we know from officials that they have managed to recover dozens of bodies from the river, but those efforts still ongoing as you mentioned....
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army black hawk helicopter also killing three u.s. service members, an army captain, staff sergeant and chief warrant officer. 67 lives lost in an instant. and last night as friends and family of the victims prayed for a miracle, there was little hope. because after that collision in the sky, both aircraft plummeted into the potomac river, the icy waters that were only waist deep and about 35 degrees. tonight we spoke with d.c.'s fire chief moments before he went to meet with those victims' families. when you go into a meeting like that, what goes through your head? what do you want to tell them? >> they're going to ask us questions and we're going to do our best to answer those questions with the facts. >> reporter: the first officer of the american airlines so flight was sam lilley, his father posting he was so proud when sam became a pilot. also on the flight, some of the country's most promising young figure skaters, who were in wichita at a highly selective training camp. >> they're our brothers and sisters. and we're all very cl
army black hawk helicopter also killing three u.s. service members, an army captain, staff sergeant and chief warrant officer. 67 lives lost in an instant. and last night as friends and family of the victims prayed for a miracle, there was little hope. because after that collision in the sky, both aircraft plummeted into the potomac river, the icy waters that were only waist deep and about 35 degrees. tonight we spoke with d.c.'s fire chief moments before he went to meet with those victims'...
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he is talking about this black hawk crew that was involved in the crash.n the crew chief in the back had been in the unit for a long time he references. very familiar with the area. very familiar with the routing structure. so they don't see experience as being an edm impairment to their ability to carry this out safely. he referenced this as a relative easy route, easy corridor to fly because you're flying down the center of the river, and talked about the maximum altitudes for the route, 200 feet sea level, and they know exactly on the map and visually understand where they are with relation to that route. he said it's a mission for aviation battalion and transport vip's on missions and these are flown every day on multiple aircraft as we see where the chopper was coming in the orange and the american airlines flight in the yellow, john, and he brought up the night vision goggles which is a big part of the story. perhaps we will learn more shortly. he said the crew had night goggles, probably using them, and they are a choice. we don't know definitively
he is talking about this black hawk crew that was involved in the crash.n the crew chief in the back had been in the unit for a long time he references. very familiar with the area. very familiar with the routing structure. so they don't see experience as being an edm impairment to their ability to carry this out safely. he referenced this as a relative easy route, easy corridor to fly because you're flying down the center of the river, and talked about the maximum altitudes for the route, 200...
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certainly be a data point that will show up on the black boxes that they have yet to retrieve for that black hawk helicopter. that black box will have information like the altitude. we do know that the investigators have already retrieved the black boxes for the commercial passenger plane. they have opened it. they have started the process of reviewing it. and we believe that it will take a few months to get the full picture. but we do know that the ntsb is planning on releasing a preliminary report within the next 30 days. also on their plate will be to interview those air traffic controllers. they are another crucial piece of this. as of this morning, we know the ntsb had not yet interviewed them, but they are going through the process through the air traffic controller union to to get those interviews all set up. and they won't only be asking these air traffic controllers about the day of the mid-air collision, but they're also going to be very focused on the prior 72 hours. how much sleep did they get? you know, what their schedule was on the prior 72 hours. any medications they have may have
certainly be a data point that will show up on the black boxes that they have yet to retrieve for that black hawk helicopter. that black box will have information like the altitude. we do know that the investigators have already retrieved the black boxes for the commercial passenger plane. they have opened it. they have started the process of reviewing it. and we believe that it will take a few months to get the full picture. but we do know that the ntsb is planning on releasing a preliminary...
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airport dca crashed and apparently we were told it did as we saw the video it did collide with the black hawk helicopter and that the plane that american air was flying was a see rj 720 with 60 passengers and four crew members and the helicopter was carrying which was a training flight carrying three soldiers and you can see they collided and if you take a closer look at it that helicopter which was taking off if the plane is a cayman from the back and the experts we've talked to so far as saying things as if that is what happened because the plane the last warning that came from the tower was directed towards the helicopter and saying approach from the rear end can you see this see rj in front of you. of course there was no response because the collision happened moments thereafter. minutes ago we talked to jonathan who was on scene first on scene the former navy seal first on scene for a couple of crashes with the hudson and another helicopter crash in around new york city and you see the response here it's fascinating that we have so much information so fast from the scene of the crash and
airport dca crashed and apparently we were told it did as we saw the video it did collide with the black hawk helicopter and that the plane that american air was flying was a see rj 720 with 60 passengers and four crew members and the helicopter was carrying which was a training flight carrying three soldiers and you can see they collided and if you take a closer look at it that helicopter which was taking off if the plane is a cayman from the back and the experts we've talked to so far as...
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they have flown in a member of their ntsb go team from alaska who was a former black hawk black hawk helicopter pilot. tapping into his expertise as far as the the work that is being done. we talked about the black boxes. they are also waiting on a crane to arrive at the crash site so they can begin the retrieval of debris. we know that they do have already pieces of debris in hand that they've already started analysis on. and and as far as the >> every aircraft flying within their path, just simply to close for a safe landing. i want you to air traffic control audio from that incident. >> i describe as a helicopter over georgetown northbound 300ft. we had a ra. ra 4514 going around. >> we had an ra with a helicopter traffic below us. >> and we're expecting them to possibly give us some more. >> i mean, the fact that this has happened before, it just highlights the danger of having these military aircraft in the same airspace, operating with these commercial aircraft around such a busy airport. and i've heard from many in the aviation industry already having conversations about wheth
they have flown in a member of their ntsb go team from alaska who was a former black hawk black hawk helicopter pilot. tapping into his expertise as far as the the work that is being done. we talked about the black boxes. they are also waiting on a crane to arrive at the crash site so they can begin the retrieval of debris. we know that they do have already pieces of debris in hand that they've already started analysis on. and and as far as the >> every aircraft flying within their path,...
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that black hawk was south along the potomac.he on short final, had its flaps extended, seconds away from landing at reagan. it was coming in from the south. but, runway 33 as the letter suggests it's a compass. it's northwesterly runway just, you know, due north 360. make left handed bank turn state of maryland. other side of the those pilots would have been focused and have the right away. getting that aircraft safely back to reagan is not clear what caused this collision. the visual flight rules, the helicopter you would think would have seen that stern passing behind situation as we await update 7:30 eastern, guys. >> lawrence: lucas, i know you are normally at the pentagon and have you sources in the pentagon and we don't want to speculate. but i'm just curious we all saw the video and it's jarring. it was jarring for the president of the united states. has terror been ruled out right now? >> it's something that nobody has been talking about, lawrence. it appears this is mid-air collision, a mid-air tragedy. it's not clear w
that black hawk was south along the potomac.he on short final, had its flaps extended, seconds away from landing at reagan. it was coming in from the south. but, runway 33 as the letter suggests it's a compass. it's northwesterly runway just, you know, due north 360. make left handed bank turn state of maryland. other side of the those pilots would have been focused and have the right away. getting that aircraft safely back to reagan is not clear what caused this collision. the visual flight...
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as i mentioned, former black hawk pilot who flew this same route. so, pete, i know that you have been talking to your sources all day and you know, you've been you've been up for 24 hours almost now working on this story. what is the latest you're learning about what might have happened? i mean, when you just look out here and anyone who's flown in this airport, i mean, you're in the final seconds. you see the potomac river, you know, you're ready to get your bags and get off the plane. >> this was. >> seconds away from being a near miss, something we have seen so much of in 2023 and 2024. in fact, two near misses came under ntsb investigation here at reagan national airport. right now. it is so surreal as somebody who is here at national airport all the time doing live shots and reporting to see the police boats out in the water, still tonight, nearly 24 hours after this crash. what we're learning now is that there was a bit of a switch up in the control tower here at reagan national airport, where there was one controller working two positions sim
as i mentioned, former black hawk pilot who flew this same route. so, pete, i know that you have been talking to your sources all day and you know, you've been you've been up for 24 hours almost now working on this story. what is the latest you're learning about what might have happened? i mean, when you just look out here and anyone who's flown in this airport, i mean, you're in the final seconds. you see the potomac river, you know, you're ready to get your bags and get off the plane....
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that black hawk will be given a route which is tracking on it now.1 there was a ehahaeefreeieaxa ~ 01 two 33 so the questions i have, what big questions i have, what that is helicopter will be means is the helicopter will be given a flight path and an to tilt; at an altitude. approval to fly at an altitude, ,. the runway approval to fly at an altitude, w the runway changes, it was runnin- 7—7 :-=7 7 it is tracking 7 7 it is tracking parallel7to 7east tracking pa rallel7to 7 east tr. there pa rallel7to 7 east tr. there is irallel7to 7east tr. there is no lel7to the =a=t see there is he ""”"’*"*""'”*’*”" for a the =a=t ee there is he ""”"’*"*""'”*’*”" for a collision potential for a collision it is tracking parallel _pproach 7 777775777777777777777 7777777777 _pproach path 777777 7777777777 approach path which will to the approach path which will coming from the south of the be coming from the south of the picture, the bottom of the picture, the bottom of the picture, all the way in but as soon as that changes, if draw a line out7 7 draw a line out7fro
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the black hawk is maneuverable. the black hawk could have moved out of the way quickly. they can move on a dime and make that happen. and it wouldn't have happened. >> cedric, that's one of the most informed explanations i've heard of. what possibly went wrong that i've yet. thank you so much for that. do you agree with what she had to say? >> yeah, basically i do. >> jake elizabeth has obviously a wealth of experience with this. and when you look at the way in which the crews are set up for black hawk helicopters, that's a critical thing. you know, you've got the mission planning piece that you mentioned, and as elizabeth was explaining, there are also so many concerns that they have to really look at, including not only the weather and not only air traffic considerations, but also what kind of things they can expect in terms of topographical features and things like that. and that should be a given. but there are things that change sometimes. sometimes there's new construction and things like that. and so they have to have as much meticulous planning as possible. and i
the black hawk is maneuverable. the black hawk could have moved out of the way quickly. they can move on a dime and make that happen. and it wouldn't have happened. >> cedric, that's one of the most informed explanations i've heard of. what possibly went wrong that i've yet. thank you so much for that. do you agree with what she had to say? >> yeah, basically i do. >> jake elizabeth has obviously a wealth of experience with this. and when you look at the way in which the crews...
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yeah, 3 of them were soldiers on that black hawk helicopter.were on the american airlines flight. >> that was heading there to reagan national. as you can imagine, all flights in and out of reagan national have been canceled until 11:00am. this morning their time so they can conduct their investigation in about 5 minutes. we're going to get a live report from our reporters in the dc bureau. so stay tuned for that. >> 6.45 looking outside from the east bay hills skies a little clear than they were yesterday today set to be the last of our dry days before a very wet pattern. just around the corner, you can actually see some of that cloud cover sitting offshore. all this drifts in for the north bay before you even get up tomorrow morning. but for the rest of us in the bay area, we will be seeing shower activity picking up tomorrow during the morning commute. here's a look at tonight into tomorrow morning. we'll start to see some showers again before you get up for our morning commute tomorrow for areas north of the golden gate, but gradually sprea
yeah, 3 of them were soldiers on that black hawk helicopter.were on the american airlines flight. >> that was heading there to reagan national. as you can imagine, all flights in and out of reagan national have been canceled until 11:00am. this morning their time so they can conduct their investigation in about 5 minutes. we're going to get a live report from our reporters in the dc bureau. so stay tuned for that. >> 6.45 looking outside from the east bay hills skies a little clear...
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army black hawk helicopter. you've been listening to president trump making comments at the white house about the border, largely. cnn's jeff zeleny is covering the white house for us today. jeff, what do you. >> what do you make of what. >> president trump. >> has had to say? >> well, jake, what president trump just did. first of all, he actually signed an order appointing an acting director of the faa, chris rocheleau, who was a longtime faa worker, before leaving to the private sector. but this just underscores the fact that this is one of the many vacant positions in the faa as this new government administration is taking hold. so that was the first thing he did. the second thing he did was sign an executive action of some kind. basically just restating the comments we heard from him earlier today saying he wants competence in the faa, not die. of course, there is no evidence that that any type of hiring initiatives had anything to do with this. the president also said he would be meeting with some of the fa
army black hawk helicopter. you've been listening to president trump making comments at the white house about the border, largely. cnn's jeff zeleny is covering the white house for us today. jeff, what do you. >> what do you make of what. >> president trump. >> has had to say? >> well, jake, what president trump just did. first of all, he actually signed an order appointing an acting director of the faa, chris rocheleau, who was a longtime faa worker, before leaving to...
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as the president is questioning whether the air trafficker controller on duty regional jet and black hawkelicopter collided near washington was a diversity, equity and inclusion hire. this comes as officials as you just heard at the national transportation safety board say the black box from the black hawk helicopter has been recovered. the 64 people aboard the plane and the three soldiers on the helicopter all died. multiple other investigations are underway for the latest we turn to correspondent alexandria hoff starting us off live tonight from the north lawn. good evening, alex. >> good evening, bret. yes. today the president expressed concern over the height that the military black hawk was flying over that corridor of the potomac saying above the 200 feet allowed. >> the black hawk was too high. >> president trump joined by interior secretary doug burgum signed additional executive action relating to reducing regulation. there he was pressed on comments he had made about dei hiring, potentially contributing to wednesday's deadly air collision. >> i would like to put it up front. we
as the president is questioning whether the air trafficker controller on duty regional jet and black hawkelicopter collided near washington was a diversity, equity and inclusion hire. this comes as officials as you just heard at the national transportation safety board say the black box from the black hawk helicopter has been recovered. the 64 people aboard the plane and the three soldiers on the helicopter all died. multiple other investigations are underway for the latest we turn to...
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certainly something that investigators will be zeroing in on when they retrieve the black box from the black hawkelicopter that has not been retrieved yet, but they have retrieved the black boxes from the commercial passenger plane. they are already starting work on that, and it is in their labs. they have opened it and they've begun the process of reviewing the data from those black boxes. we know that investigators say that they are confident, based on the condition of the black boxes from the commercial passenger plane, that they will be able to get data from it. also, the ntsb is tapping into their expertise across the country. we got word today that they have tapped one of their members from alaska. they have flown that individual in. he is a former pilot of a black hawk helicopter. so tapping into his expertise on that. and of course, another crucial part of this investigation, pamela, is going to be the air traffic controllers. we do know that the ntsb, at this hour, they have not yet had interviews with the air traffic controllers. so that is soon to come. pamela. >> and there was this ne
certainly something that investigators will be zeroing in on when they retrieve the black box from the black hawkelicopter that has not been retrieved yet, but they have retrieved the black boxes from the commercial passenger plane. they are already starting work on that, and it is in their labs. they have opened it and they've begun the process of reviewing the data from those black boxes. we know that investigators say that they are confident, based on the condition of the black boxes from...
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well, there were 3 people on board that army black hawk helicopter. as of the latest update, authorities say they've recovered 27 bodies. we are expecting that number to grow as those efforts. those recovery efforts continue throughout the day. it's worth noting that the american airlines flight was a crj 700 aircraft. that's a pretty small regional jet. and it was operated by a subcontractor psa airlines. that's not entirely uncommon, especially on those regional jets. we understand the impact happened is that american flight was coming in for landing here it was washington national airport. that's when that collision happened. transportation secretary sean duffy said earlier that both aircraft, we're on standard flight pass. this impact happened, though, only at an altitude of a few 100 feet that would have made it almost impossible for that pilot of the american airlines flight to have any hope of any kind of recovery. transportation secretary duffy talked about the ongoing investigation and where they are going forward. >> i know the president tru
well, there were 3 people on board that army black hawk helicopter. as of the latest update, authorities say they've recovered 27 bodies. we are expecting that number to grow as those efforts. those recovery efforts continue throughout the day. it's worth noting that the american airlines flight was a crj 700 aircraft. that's a pretty small regional jet. and it was operated by a subcontractor psa airlines. that's not entirely uncommon, especially on those regional jets. we understand the impact...
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army official that this aircraft is black hawk was out of fort belvoir, virginia. now, it's unclear whether it was heading to fort belvoir or that it took off from fort belvoir, but that is the extent of the information we're getting right now. and and what that indicates to me is that this was a black hawk helicopter that was likely attached to the 12th aviation battalion, and that is based at davison army airfield at fort belvoir, and the 12th aviation battalion. interestingly, it does a lot of transportation of senior dod and army officials. it's known as a priority air transport, but we should be very clear here that according to an army official, there were no vips on board this flight. there was no one, no senior army officials, no senior dod officials, no senior u.s. government officials on this aircraft at the time that it collided with this passenger plane. we are told instead that it was three crew members, three u.s. army soldiers that were on board this blackhawk. so as of right now, that is the extent of what we know. still trying to get more informati
army official that this aircraft is black hawk was out of fort belvoir, virginia. now, it's unclear whether it was heading to fort belvoir or that it took off from fort belvoir, but that is the extent of the information we're getting right now. and and what that indicates to me is that this was a black hawk helicopter that was likely attached to the 12th aviation battalion, and that is based at davison army airfield at fort belvoir, and the 12th aviation battalion. interestingly, it does a lot...
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and with everything flashing in the helicopter flying in a black hawk and at the front windows there is low visibility so and it's a very sad. >> it's close to what we have to this in the video you can see right there as there is the explosion. it looks like a plane in jon scott is taking off. when the plane takes off and coming down. with the helicopter there as the ceiling is as blind with the helicopter there and the plane will be really coming down as the helicopter could potentially see the plane. and with the helicopters there and with a nephew avenue flies blackhawks with the vision not being able to be restricted and with that chopper base that they were talking about is the one that flies around the secretary of defense and the army secretary and its experienced pilots not necessarily going to be training at random at night over washington, d.c., and the fact they can't see that jet coming is astounding to me. it's clearly a final approach and with enough final approach fixed there and clearly close to landing. and the helicopter smoke on the way. and was bringing him to the
and with everything flashing in the helicopter flying in a black hawk and at the front windows there is low visibility so and it's a very sad. >> it's close to what we have to this in the video you can see right there as there is the explosion. it looks like a plane in jon scott is taking off. when the plane takes off and coming down. with the helicopter there as the ceiling is as blind with the helicopter there and the plane will be really coming down as the helicopter could potentially...
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an american airlines flight colliding with a black hawk helicopter over the potomac river. here are the latest details we know at this hour. a military official tells nbc news the helicopter was on a routine training flight. the faa says the collision happened while the commercial plane was approaching a runway at reagan national airport around 9:00 p.m. local time. it was arriving from wichita, kansas. american airlines confirming that there were 60 passengers and four crew members on board the commercial flight. president trump says he has been fully briefed on the accident, saying, in his message, may god bless their souls. the ceo of american airlines says that he will be traveling to washington, d.c. soon. in a video message, he shared his deep sorrow for the victims. >> our cooperation is without pause, and we want to learn everything we can about today's events. that work will take time. but, anything we can do now, we're doing. we know that many people will be concerned for the welfare of their loved ones. and we've set up a special help line friends and family can
an american airlines flight colliding with a black hawk helicopter over the potomac river. here are the latest details we know at this hour. a military official tells nbc news the helicopter was on a routine training flight. the faa says the collision happened while the commercial plane was approaching a runway at reagan national airport around 9:00 p.m. local time. it was arriving from wichita, kansas. american airlines confirming that there were 60 passengers and four crew members on board...
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it was a black hawk chopper with 3 people on board.ining exercise and we have much more information as we're waiting for the president to speak. and for reagan national resume flights. thanks for joining us. i'm darya folsom. >> begin with breaking all right. and i'm james fletcher j
it was a black hawk chopper with 3 people on board.ining exercise and we have much more information as we're waiting for the president to speak. and for reagan national resume flights. thanks for joining us. i'm darya folsom. >> begin with breaking all right. and i'm james fletcher j
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this is a black hawk helicopter. and obviously people in washington might be really familiar with this, but maybe some others aren't. and we know three members of the army were on this helicopter when this crash happened. it was a training flight, we are told. is it typical to see those kind of training flights in the evening hours? >> yes, it is, caitlin. and it's one of those moments where they train in the evening hours in order to do things like make sure that they are proficient using night vision goggles, that they understand how to fly with instruments. sometimes they have to use visual flight, what are known as visual flight rules. so they train in all of these conditions, and especially because of the mission of the unit in question, which is the 12th aviation battalion at fort belvoir, davidson army airfield at fort belvoir, and that mission is one that involves the transport, you know, often of vips. and also, of course, they do other things as well. but one of the key aspects of this is that they have to
this is a black hawk helicopter. and obviously people in washington might be really familiar with this, but maybe some others aren't. and we know three members of the army were on this helicopter when this crash happened. it was a training flight, we are told. is it typical to see those kind of training flights in the evening hours? >> yes, it is, caitlin. and it's one of those moments where they train in the evening hours in order to do things like make sure that they are proficient...
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the black hawk helicopter had three crew members on board for a training flight. at the time of the collision. >> we were watching the planes. >> land and they were all lined up in a row perfectly, you know, and then we sort of saw these white flares start flying out of the sky. it's unfortunate what happened, and i'm praying for everybody who was involved in it. >> and just a short while ago, cnn learning that several members of the u.s. ice skating community were on board that flight from wichita, kansas, u.s. figure skating skating said in a statement that they were returning home from a national development camp. it was happening there just last week. joining me here now on the scene is cedric leighton. he is a cnn military analyst and retired air force colonel. we're going to be joined shortly, we hope, by mary schiavo, cnn aviation analyst but cedric, let's talk about what we have learned overnight. obviously, this crash happening around in the 9 p.m. hour last night. and ever since then, these frantic efforts have been underway. driving in here past the ent
the black hawk helicopter had three crew members on board for a training flight. at the time of the collision. >> we were watching the planes. >> land and they were all lined up in a row perfectly, you know, and then we sort of saw these white flares start flying out of the sky. it's unfortunate what happened, and i'm praying for everybody who was involved in it. >> and just a short while ago, cnn learning that several members of the u.s. ice skating community were on board...
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i think that's what's been stunning a lot of people, especially when it comes to the black hawk. this is a military-equipped aircraft. what role does the technology play even if the human would totally screw up? why didn't that prevent this? >> yeah. so that's when i speak to the machine and the airplane, i am in part talking about the avionics, for example. so not only do you have in the airplane a required system called the traffic collision avoidance system commonly referred to as tcas, that system from a much greater distance out starts enunciating and displaying or initially displaying and eventually enunciating the presence of an aircraft within the vicinity of their airplane and so it would start out on the display as a white symbol. then it becomes a yellow symbol, a red symbol and eventually assuming that the airplane had their resolution advisory turned on -- and that's something the ntsb will be looking for, whether that was turned on -- they also would have gotten an oral command or should have gotten an oral command as to what they should do. so in this case, for exa
i think that's what's been stunning a lot of people, especially when it comes to the black hawk. this is a military-equipped aircraft. what role does the technology play even if the human would totally screw up? why didn't that prevent this? >> yeah. so that's when i speak to the machine and the airplane, i am in part talking about the avionics, for example. so not only do you have in the airplane a required system called the traffic collision avoidance system commonly referred to as...
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el helicÓptero era un black hawk. llevaba tres personas a bordo.apital de los estados unidos. y no hay sobrevivientes. en este aviÓn viajaban patinadores de estados unidos y patinadores de rusia. y hasta ahora tambiÉn podemos confirmar que uno de los pilotos, jonathan campos, era de origen puertorriqueÑo. muriÓ en el accidente. su madre le confirmÓ a telemundo puerto rico su identidad en noticias telemundo tenemos una cobertura en equipo para llevarlo con cuidado. tenemos lo Último de la investigaciÓn. hablaremos de las tareas de recuperaciÓn, quiÉnes son las vÍctimas esta tarde? reporteros desplegados y analizando cada uno de los Ángulos de esta noticia que hoy sacude a los estados unidos. cÓmo algo asÍ pudo ocurrir aquÍ en el espacio aÉreo? mÁs cuidado, mejor observado de todo el paÍs. la sede del poder en estados unidos. hay muchas preguntas abiertas. un reporte preliminar de la administraciÓn federal de aviaciÓn indica que no era normal la cantidad de personal de trÁfico aÉreo a la hora en la que ocurriÓ este accidente. cristina londoÑo encabez
el helicÓptero era un black hawk. llevaba tres personas a bordo.apital de los estados unidos. y no hay sobrevivientes. en este aviÓn viajaban patinadores de estados unidos y patinadores de rusia. y hasta ahora tambiÉn podemos confirmar que uno de los pilotos, jonathan campos, era de origen puertorriqueÑo. muriÓ en el accidente. su madre le confirmÓ a telemundo puerto rico su identidad en noticias telemundo tenemos una cobertura en equipo para llevarlo con cuidado. tenemos lo Último de la...
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military flying that black hawk helicopter. don't you think you're getting ahead of the investigation right now? >> know, i don't think so. with the names of the people? the names of the people that are on the plane? you think that's going to make a difference. >> does it count for their families -- >> we're a group of people that lost their lives. if you want a luisa of the name -- list of names, we'll give that soon and we're in coordinate with american airlines and in coordination very strongly with the military, but that's not a very smart question. i'm surprised coming from you. please. >> thank you, president trump. thank you for being here. based on your analysis so far. do you have a sense of who is at fault if it was the plane, helicopter, air traffic control, and can you assure people that it is safe to fly in and out of dc? >> well, i've given you the analysis and the analysis is it was based on vision. we had a lot of people that saw what was happening. you had some people that knew what was happening. there was som
military flying that black hawk helicopter. don't you think you're getting ahead of the investigation right now? >> know, i don't think so. with the names of the people? the names of the people that are on the plane? you think that's going to make a difference. >> does it count for their families -- >> we're a group of people that lost their lives. if you want a luisa of the name -- list of names, we'll give that soon and we're in coordinate with american airlines and in...
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three were on board the black hawk helicopter and were on a traing flight at the time.o one is believed to have survived the collision. earlier this morning, president trump spoke about what happened. so all of this is going to be studied, but it just seems to me from a couple of words that i like to use the words common sense. some really bad things happened and some things happened that shouldn't have happened. the ntsb is expected to provide an update on this investigation inin just moments. we will have a special report when that happens. as we get updates, you can stay with us for those latest updates. you can stay with us by downloading our app. it is free and available on all smart devices, and that app will be very useful this weekend. when we get some rain coming in, we are going to see things changing over the next few days. with rain finally coming back to the bay area, it's going to be off and on, not raining the entire time, but if you do have that app, you'll be able to zoom in to your location and also get that hour by hour forecast. all right. thanks, ga
three were on board the black hawk helicopter and were on a traing flight at the time.o one is believed to have survived the collision. earlier this morning, president trump spoke about what happened. so all of this is going to be studied, but it just seems to me from a couple of words that i like to use the words common sense. some really bad things happened and some things happened that shouldn't have happened. the ntsb is expected to provide an update on this investigation inin just moments....
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but every member on board that black hawk helicopter will have been tasked with also looking around and making sure there were no obstructions or anything. anything from what i just said that stands out to you and what you have been thinking about? >> so we have to look and see again, they will determine this as far as accurate timing and space where everyone was positioned at, but when you see the flight track and you hear some of the data reporting's, yes, the black hawk second pilot had clicked on and say they affirmatively had the regional jet insight and that so that is something they will look at. was it obviously a definitive thinking that they had it insight, and could it have been misconstrued as something else? those are the things that is pilots we are always looking around, making sure that everything in our environment and what we are doing, how we are operating is safe. so everyone in aviation, you always work towards making everything as best and safe as possible. we learn from these things and we make those changes. >> captain einsetler, thank you so much. let's go to sk
but every member on board that black hawk helicopter will have been tasked with also looking around and making sure there were no obstructions or anything. anything from what i just said that stands out to you and what you have been thinking about? >> so we have to look and see again, they will determine this as far as accurate timing and space where everyone was positioned at, but when you see the flight track and you hear some of the data reporting's, yes, the black hawk second pilot...
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and the black hawk has, you know, substantial structure there. they also have a piece of metal that runs down the center of the windshield. and if the american jet was behind that structure, it is possible, particularly if they looked at the wrong target. the other, the third airplane, i'll call it, uh, it's possible by the time they realize that. oh my gosh, there's there's the american jet right in front of us. there's, uh, i'm a human factors aviation psychologist. so it takes several seconds for the human to respond. plus, here, the helicopter has got to respond. so it may well be that by the time they saw the american jet, they didn't have time to avoid it. we we talk about seeing a void, which is the standard for these kind of operations. and of course, the controllers are very busy, the pilots are busy. and normally this doesn't happen. but this night, um, things just went bad very, very badly. and that's what the the safety board will have to address. now, what they'll do is they'll look at the eye position of the two pilots and the black
and the black hawk has, you know, substantial structure there. they also have a piece of metal that runs down the center of the windshield. and if the american jet was behind that structure, it is possible, particularly if they looked at the wrong target. the other, the third airplane, i'll call it, uh, it's possible by the time they realize that. oh my gosh, there's there's the american jet right in front of us. there's, uh, i'm a human factors aviation psychologist. so it takes several...
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will has to be focused on the black hawk's data recorder. and as i understand it, they don't have a voice recorder. so there's going to be a certain amount of of challenge to try and figure out why this flight crew performed the way they did. >> elizabeth just quickly, um, peter referred to whether or not the altimeter, which gives an idea of how high the helicopter is, whether it was not calibrated correctly. how common is it for an altimeter to to not be calibrated correctly? >> well, before every flight, we get the current barometric pressure reading with an update with our weather, and we would we would turn the the little dial on an altimeter to make sure that it's at the correct calibration per every single flight. so, um, short of a large pressure change in the middle of flight, uh, that if they did not take that step, that might have been an issue that could have put them off 100ft, maybe even more, depending on the change of barometric pressure. >> elizabeth. >> something that will come out in the investigation. >> yeah. elizabeth m
will has to be focused on the black hawk's data recorder. and as i understand it, they don't have a voice recorder. so there's going to be a certain amount of of challenge to try and figure out why this flight crew performed the way they did. >> elizabeth just quickly, um, peter referred to whether or not the altimeter, which gives an idea of how high the helicopter is, whether it was not calibrated correctly. how common is it for an altimeter to to not be calibrated correctly? >>...
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cuando ocurre la colisiÓn con este black hawk, que es un helicÓptero militar que habÍa salido de una mismo seguÍ el el curso del aviÓn y estaba en en curso. exacto para aterrizar. y se ve en el video claramente que el helicÓptero incursionÓ en el Área directa de aterrizaje en el Área, digamos, de de aproximaciÓn final de este aviÓn. y repito, el curso del aviÓn era perfecto. y la falla. obviamente, aquÍ tambiÉn hay que pensar en los controladores que no advirtieron tampoco la proximidad del helicÓptero en trÁfico civil. >> ahora estas aeronaves deben de tener tambiÉn radares, cierto? como por ejemplo el black hawk, que es este helicÓptero militar. >> si tienen un sistema anticolisiÓn, pero fue muy rÁpido y no les permite reaccionar en tan poco tiempo. el helicÓptero prÁcticamente se ve en el video que se cruza y impactan directamente los dos aviones. una incursiÓn en el aire. eso es evidente. >> despuÉs de un incidente como lo que estamos viendo ahorita. obviamente la la prioridad es bÚsqueda y rescate de sobrevivientes, pero en este momento tenemos entendido que el secretario de tra
cuando ocurre la colisiÓn con este black hawk, que es un helicÓptero militar que habÍa salido de una mismo seguÍ el el curso del aviÓn y estaba en en curso. exacto para aterrizar. y se ve en el video claramente que el helicÓptero incursionÓ en el Área directa de aterrizaje en el Área, digamos, de de aproximaciÓn final de este aviÓn. y repito, el curso del aviÓn era perfecto. y la falla. obviamente, aquÍ tambiÉn hay que pensar en los controladores que no advirtieron tampoco la...
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congressman tom barrett, former black hawk pilot, joins me now. explanation could there be for the helicopter flying higher than it was supposed to? >> yeah, thank you so much for having me on today and just it goes without saying our prayers and hearts are with the families of the souls onboard that lost their lives. this was a tragic accident and this investigation will tell us hopefully some causative factors that led to this. unfortunate mishaps always have knowa investigation that follows and reconstruction of facts that led up to it to allow us to learn lessons going forward to make this, ensure we have safety for civilian and military air crews that are converging in the same area to make sure things like this don't happen again. i certain on aviation sub-committee of the transportation infrastructure committee, i know we'll take an off theive look at this. flight paths and congestion taking place, i think it is not unreasonable to look at some of the audio of what took place, the acknowledgement by the black hawk flight crew they had seen
congressman tom barrett, former black hawk pilot, joins me now. explanation could there be for the helicopter flying higher than it was supposed to? >> yeah, thank you so much for having me on today and just it goes without saying our prayers and hearts are with the families of the souls onboard that lost their lives. this was a tragic accident and this investigation will tell us hopefully some causative factors that led to this. unfortunate mishaps always have knowa investigation that...
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a devastating collision over the pandemic river as a passenger jet collides with an army black hawk helicopterrch and rescue operations are underway right now as relearning some members of the u.s. figure skating team were on board of the flight we will bring you the live updates as soon as we can and as soon as we get them we are getting a briefing at 7:30 a.m. this morning. in washington the national security in the forefront ashtray nominees face the senate confirmation hearings fbi pick casper tell dni tulsi gabbard on the hill this morning after sparks fly during hhs rfk junior's questioning from the upper chamber yesterday we will get the view from lawmakers coming up this morning futures indicated again at the start of trading, dow and just drop 172 points the nasdaq up 104 and s&p 500 higher by 21, tech stocks look like this after volatile couple weeks under couple weeks as you see a mixed story potential market mover apple we are watching "after the bell" tonight after meta and microsoft on the move after quarterly earnings last night there is a look at the stocks this morning with ap
a devastating collision over the pandemic river as a passenger jet collides with an army black hawk helicopterrch and rescue operations are underway right now as relearning some members of the u.s. figure skating team were on board of the flight we will bring you the live updates as soon as we can and as soon as we get them we are getting a briefing at 7:30 a.m. this morning. in washington the national security in the forefront ashtray nominees face the senate confirmation hearings fbi pick...
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both the airplane as well as the black hawk helicopter. the ntsb telling us yesterday that they expect to have a preliminary report with a readout from these black boxes within the next 30 days. investigators are also waiting for a crane to arrive on the crash site. that crane will be helpful in trying to remove much of this debris. that will be critical in this investigation, as well as the debris will hold clues for investigators. and kate, this morning, we're also learning about staffing in that air traffic control tower. we heard that air traffic control audio, in which they warned the pilot of the black hawk helicopter about the commercial regional jet. and now cnn has learned that one air traffic controller was actually working two different tower positions, directing traffic for both local traffic as well as helicopter traffic. however, this source tells us that that is not out of the norm. kate. >> and there's also new reporting today about some other recent close calls at dca. what are you picking up on that? >> right. so what we h
both the airplane as well as the black hawk helicopter. the ntsb telling us yesterday that they expect to have a preliminary report with a readout from these black boxes within the next 30 days. investigators are also waiting for a crane to arrive on the crash site. that crane will be helpful in trying to remove much of this debris. that will be critical in this investigation, as well as the debris will hold clues for investigators. and kate, this morning, we're also learning about staffing in...
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army black hawk helicopter over washington, dc. you can see on your screen on the lower right hand side of your screen what appears to be that collision highlighted in this video. that flight was coming into washington from wichita, kansas. now, multiple agencies are part of a major search and rescue mission. right now, you are looking at a live picture of the potomac river. a source telling nbc news that the american airlines flight had 60 passengers and four crew members on board. i want to bring in nbc pentagon correspondent courtney colby. my goodness. courtney, tell us what you know it is. 11:01 p.m. it happened almost exactly two hours ago. >> yeah. steph, the information has been tough to come by because this is really a fluid situation. so right now we are being told, according to an army official, this was a u.s. army black hawk helicopter that was involved in this collision. there were three u.s. believed to be u.s. soldiers, but at least three people on board. keep in mind, a black hawk like this in age 60 most likely wo
army black hawk helicopter over washington, dc. you can see on your screen on the lower right hand side of your screen what appears to be that collision highlighted in this video. that flight was coming into washington from wichita, kansas. now, multiple agencies are part of a major search and rescue mission. right now, you are looking at a live picture of the potomac river. a source telling nbc news that the american airlines flight had 60 passengers and four crew members on board. i want to...
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essentially for the black hawk? how is that a factor into this? and also, would that be in the custody or jurisdiction of the ntsb, or is that something that the pentagon handles first? how does that work here? >> it's going to be a joint investigation. of course, the dod is, um, in at least been brought in as a party to the investigation. they will provide their level of expertise and any equipment that they need to read out. um, their recorder, because it may be a specialized recorder for the black hawk helicopter, but they will have an ntsb person there. the information will then flow. everything will flow through the ntsb. now, they are the only ones that are the repository of all the information. and then the the organization that will provide the information to the public. >> yeah. and greg, i want you to listen because we just got this new audio from air traffic control confirming that on tuesday of this week, a flight here into reagan national was actually forced to go around the flight pattern. it was initially set to take because of heli
essentially for the black hawk? how is that a factor into this? and also, would that be in the custody or jurisdiction of the ntsb, or is that something that the pentagon handles first? how does that work here? >> it's going to be a joint investigation. of course, the dod is, um, in at least been brought in as a party to the investigation. they will provide their level of expertise and any equipment that they need to read out. um, their recorder, because it may be a specialized recorder...
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hawk helicopter which is black hawk helicopter which is the standard us military transport but thereriations. tinge of different variations. correspondent gave a your correspondent gave a really insight into the really good insight into the congested nature of that airspace and is very, very airspace and it is verv verv — +—~——— —— f.“ is controlled, airspece epci it is very, very controlled, class b which means . m which meansthat airspace which means that everything is under air—traffic however, the river is control. however, the river is a transit for helicopters it is likely the military se it is. tiestif'ths'ptititefif " helicopter was flying training helicopter was flying along the putter and have under 77 under what visual ' rvjisuzaliflight 7 étééfrgif' 1'%5 j? 3: that eziéet’rs. that although potomac. that means although they are under atc control, they are under atc control, they have to maintain visual they heve te peeipteierviseeet——— w— , . ———— other aircraft contact with other aircraft around and take mtgviggat'ound and take .. . .. as necessary avoidance as necessary
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or was a black hawk helicopter pilot. and that did stand out to me, because you juxtapose this comment about being independent and the ntsb being independent. you put that next to, like you said, the president of the united states already saying what the cause is of the crash, but not only the president. you also have two of his cabinet secretaries, the department of transportation, echoing the president in that press conference yesterday around this issue of die, and also the department of defense secretary. but the problem with that is that the department of transportation is a party to this investigation. so you see how very quickly that a narrative that is being crafted before the investigation even begins could certainly present a problem of influence. and you see right now that the ntsb is fighting for their independence by making these statements about how they operate and what their process is. and honestly, i really haven't seen the ntsb have to stress their independence so much during the course of an investigat
or was a black hawk helicopter pilot. and that did stand out to me, because you juxtapose this comment about being independent and the ntsb being independent. you put that next to, like you said, the president of the united states already saying what the cause is of the crash, but not only the president. you also have two of his cabinet secretaries, the department of transportation, echoing the president in that press conference yesterday around this issue of die, and also the department of...