a very kind of important history to talk about because as you mentioned in the news brief, the black hills, or what we know as --, the cultural center of our universee.. more than 50 different indigenous natations actually he origin stories or ties or spiritual connections to the black hillsls. and the lakota people as well as the cheyenne a and arapahoe people, , when they signed the fort lemii treaty became the caretakekers of that t land. backn 1980, there was a supreme court decision that ruled the black hills itself had been illegally taken from the lakota nation and that the supreme court itself could only reward a monetary compmpensation becaususe the court can't actuay get the leaead back to the e tr. since 191980, the lands s have n just the tribes have been refusing to o acceptpt money. they can't put a price on the black hills, so they have b been refusing money. at the same time, the black hills have become a hot but of the kind of cultural war that trtrump is trying toto stir up across the nation. for example, there are e about 2 mimillion visitors s per year wo go2net rushmor

hills, it the black is a place we connecect to the creator, pick up medicines. people have been traveling thehe for years and following the actual star constellations to go to our sacred sites. this place is very, very sacred to our people.e. so the act of, one, stealingng r land and thehen carving the facs of four white men who were colonizers, who committed genocide against indigenous people, is an egregious act of violence. and then furthermore, for it to bebe c celebrated as this shrinf democracy, you know, some people don't know -- many people talk about abraham lincoln as being one of the better presidents in the history of the country. well, peoplele don't reaealize t on one hand he signed the emancipation proclamation and he masso ordered the largest hanging in the history of the united states when he ordered the hanging of 38 to go after the uprising in dakota terrrrity in southern minnesota. so these parts of this history, the truth and ththe reality. and is an actctf violence aggression against us and also pushing this falsehood narrative about imac a

in 1860 they were granted the black hills. then custer, as was his wont, came riding into the black hills, set off a gold rush, and broke the treaty, no question about it. in 1980, the u.s. supreme court ruled it was a violation of the treaty and granted the tribes an enormous amount of money. but it was not enough. it was not the money they were interested in. there is a fund now that is over a billion dollars because the tribes don't want to go into that money. they want their land back. it's not likely to happen, obviously. but i think it's an important part of our culture and our history. they are there and reminding everyone, this was their land at the beginning. >> let's talk about crazy horse and the memorial that is there and the importance of that figure to the lakota and dakota. >> reporter: it was called pahasaba, the black hills, a very rich part of the world, a lot of wildlife, beautiful conifers. i grew up effectively in one form or another in the black hills as a boy scout, camping across, living there during wo

you can see the black hills from long distance. tribes that had considered this a sacred site, considered the sacred site, they were referencing, they could see distance, it looked black because of the ponderosa pines. wayou can see it for a long across the state of south dakota. there hase years, been discussion from native americans and others about the the black hills, sacred to native americans. and right here you have something that represents to the u.s. government, policies towards the native americans, they haven't looked at it the same way. what do you talk about when you tell people about that issue and mount rushmore? was controversy from the start. carving in the black hills. that controversy came from tribal people as well as people peopleday we would call who were ecologists. the tribes were looking at a come in andould honor and have honor, ceremonies, spend time. that, at that time period, the, that wasn't looked at same way we look at that today. today we still do have tribal are concerned about beingaque -- black h

carving the black hills.hat controversy came from tribal people and people today we would call ecologists. they were looking at a place where they would come in and honor and have honor ceremonies, spend some time. at that time period -- we are talking 1925 -- that wasn't looked at the same way we look at today. today we still have tribal people who are concerned about the black hills being carved. people living in the black hills. we try to honor that. some of that group our through our interpretive programming. we have a heritage village. every summer, we hire cultural interpreters. are lakota.ople who they come in and talk about the lakota story. we are trying to share the importance of the black hills for all of these people, as well as what that sculpture means. it's a balance. the sculptor, gutzon borglum, had started in georgia, had started in stone mountain, georgia. there was a conflict there. he left. he came up here to work for the state of south dakota. of course, the first challenge was finding a

the objection is that the black hills are considered very sacred to our people.have sacred sites throughout the black hills, and they are going to fire, light fireworks that could also cause a forest fire, and we do have sacred sites in there that it could be destroyed. i understand, thank you so much for explaining that. and do you have concerns too about any spread of coronavirus? yes. the governor has stated that there will not be any social distancing in practice, and of course we are right in the middle of 7,000 people that could easily get bad very quick. phil two eagle speaking to us earlier. health officials and local leaders in the us are urging people to limit their celebrations for independence day as coronavirus infections continue to surge. texas has seen a record daily increase of almost 8,000 new cases. it's already led to the governor ordering that face coverings must be worn in public in most of the state. we can now speak to drjoseph b mccormick, an epidemiologist, and founder of the uthealth school of public health in texas. hejoins us now from

you can see the black hills from a long distance. y were referencing they could see it in a distant. it looked black because of the ponderosa pines. you can see it as a long way across the state of south dakota. years, there has been discussion from native americans and others about the location of the black hills, sacred to the native americans. right here, you have something representative to the u.s. government and policy of native americans has not always -- they have not looked out at the same way. what do you talk about when you tell people about that issue and mount rushmore? >> there was controversy from the start. carving into the black hills. the controversy came from tribal people as well as people that today, we would call people who were ecologists. they were looking out a place that they would come in and ceremonies,ve honor spend some time. period, we are talking 1925, that wasn't looked at the same way we look at that today. today, we do still have tribal people who are concerned about the black hills being carved, peo

when you look at the black hills, the history is a dark one. but it is an important one because it is instructive of in 1868, the u.s. government promised this land to the lakota people. it was a way of ending years and years of conflict. and less than a decade later, people were starved and raped and pushed out of this land. in 1980, the supreme court said that was wrong. the u.s. government was wrong in doing that and that this should be native land. unfortunately, it hasn't panned out that way. the people who live here, this is their heritage. this is their history. today there was an incredibly ugly scene just about a mile up the road where i am where police were arresting protesters in a completely peaceful manner. but you had donald trump's supporters yelling and mocking these protesters in sometimes racial ways, and you had this lack of understanding on both sides, both sides, both with the native american protesters and trump supporters. trump supporters saying, go home, and the protesters saying this is my home, this is my land. for pe

the objection is that the black hills are considered very sacred to our people.lack hills, and they are going to fire, light fireworks that could also cause a forest fire, and we do have sacred sites that it could be destroyed. i understand, thank you for explaining that. and do you for explaining that. and do you have concerns about any spread of coronavirus? yes. the governor has stated that there will not be any social distancing in practice, and of course we are right in the middle of 7000 people that could easily get bad very quick. thank you so much for explaining that to us and talking us through it, that is phil two eagle, thank you. talking us through it, that is philtwo eagle, thank you. yes. the coronavirus lockdown in england has just been eased, with many businesses including pubs, restaurants, hairdressers and cinemas allowed to reopen from today. the british prime minister has urged people to "enjoy summer safely" as lockdown restrictions are removed, but he's warned he will not hesitate to reverse the measures if cases began to climb. 0ur politica

and the western half of the state is where we are in the black hills where there are about 900 cases. and we're seeing a plateauing and this is all because of efforts in our collaborative efforts between public health officials, local and state, and following cdc guidelines. that's something we have conveyed in several ways to our communities to continue to do those. this has kept our numbers down, but as you can clearly see, the tourism we are known for -- the black hills are a beautiful place to come in the summer and large gathering are what they'll be concerned about. >> this whole mask issue. all the scientific guidelines say wear a mask. for all of us and everyone wants to have a good time. i was talking to a coroner in ohio who was saying at the end of the day, this is ant political issue. this is a health issue. how do you see it and do you think it would make a difference if the nofz united states wore a face covering? >> absolutely. i think public health is very key to taking care of the community. nothing would be a boulder and more curages leadership statement than to wear

we began tonight in the black hills of south dakota, chief correspondent jonathan hunt live on the sceneith the president's independence day rally tonight, good evening, jonathan. >> good evening, mike, the president just wrapping up an extremely thoughtful speech here in the shadow of mount rushmore, received by the several thousand who have gathered here in the shadow of this iconic monument. he began by saying mount rushmore will never be desecrated. it will stand forever. he went on to pay tribute to greatness and said "it will soon be greater than ever before." then he launched into a long and no holds barred denunciation of protesters who have torn down statues and monuments in cities across the country. he said, "our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes can erase our values and indoctrinate our children." he said this attack on our liberty must be stopped. he decried it is far left fascism taking root, he said in our schools, newsrooms, and corporate board rooms. he said, they want to silence us, but we will not be silenced! you can

. >> when you look at this place, this land, the black hills, the history is a dark one. >> it is not just the land that has been stolen in a place like mount rushmore and the black hills, it's the theft of history, the theft of the narrative. >> worth reminding folks that the man who carved the monument behind me had deep ties to the kkk. >> the mother of all photo ops, mount rushmore and we know why this president just can't resist going there. >> tucker: so mount rushmore is now a symbol of evil just like your nation. where is this all going? as the writer put it, cnn even put independence" when describing the holiday. this end with wolf blitzer dressed pulling the switch to dynamite the statue of liberty. pretty funny, but suddenly, getting easier to imagine that happening. on the morning of july 4th, "the washington post" summarize the president's speech, the clips of what we just played this way. "president trump's unyielding push to preserve confederate symbols and the legacy of white domination crystallized by his harsh denunciation of the racial justice movement friday night

not just the landot that has been stolen in a place like mount rushmore, the black hills.t's the theft of history, the theft t of the narrative. >> worth remaining folks that the man who carved the monument behind me had deep ties to the kkk. >> the mother of all photo ops mount rushmore and we know why this president just can't resist going there. >> tucker: so mount rushmore is now a symbol of evil, just like. where is this all n going? as writer put it, cnn even put independence" when describing the holiday. this will end with wolf blitzer dressed in a dishy people in the switch totc dynamite the statuef liberty." pretty funny, but it suddenly getting easier to imagine that happening. on the morning of july 4th, "the washington post" summarize the president's speech, the one whose clips of we just played. "president trump's unyielding 'spushed chickens, preserve confederate symbols the legacy of whiteer domination crystallid by his harsh denunciation of the racial justice movements friday night at mount rushmore has unnerved republicans who have long enabled him. for re

famously or infamously depicts four of our america's celebrated presidents on granite slope over the black hills of south dakota. what's missing from those glossy brochures is that george washington and thomas jefferson enslaved black people. and abraham lincoln, although he signed the emancipation proclamation, also approved the largest mass execution in u.s. history. the hanging of 38 dakota indians. and teddy roosevelt once wrote, quote, i don't go so as far to think that the only good indians are dead indians, but i believe nine out of ten are. these are the four men who are immortalized on a tourist trap that erases indigenous history. their faces chiseled by the sculptor who was intensely entangled in the politics of the kkk, attending klan rallies and even serving on a few klan committees. and so choosing this spot built on sacred indigenous land that was seized illegally and at a time when america finally faces a reckoning over its ugly racial history, wasn't just a wink at white supremacy. this was a rallying call. >> ourniti nation is witnessing campaign to wipe out our history, defame

you contrast that with the people who live here, the black hills, a sacred spot for native americans. this is something that they have now been fighting for for 150 years and fought for it today on this road, on the day in which the president called andrew jackson a great man. and you can understand a little bit how upset people are and for very good reason. contrast that of course with what we saw three, four years ago at the keystone pipeline in north dakota where donald trump put down those protests forcefully. the new president in office puts down these protests forcefully on a native american reservation where there's a pipeline running through. so this is not new for this community. i think people have felt this for a long time. this president has made his position clear on these issues. he's highlighted it tonight by again calling president andrew jackson the great andrew jackson. it's not clear to me what his strategy is in widening his support. i mean i don't know how you widen your support with this sort of talk. but he loves the symbolic nature of these fireworks. we've see

he's trying to say that when i stand before these former presidents who are carved here into the black hills of south dakota, you should be looking forward and be grateful for what has been given to you. in his speech he doesn't outright say a lot of things but there's a lot of sub text. people can read between the lines. it's notable when he's speaking about our history, heritage, culture, he is referring to what white america built. when he does mention people of color, martin luther king jr. and his more acceptable statement that more palatable to people today and it's other black americans who have been raised up without mentioning why it's so amazing that they got to the point that they did when he hasn't mentioned the ill that slavery and what actually happened except it was a throw away line that lincoln fixed it. he ended slavery and helped pass 13th amendment and that's it. >> doctor, you know tonight there will be fireworks over washington, d.c. there are going to be masks that are going to be handed out. as a health expert, what would you like to see in place in order to keep peop

we had that stop in tulsa and now here in the black hills.chy issue for so many people in the area. this was land promised to the people in 1888. that was a treaty broken by the federal government. so when you talk to people here about the memorial, they have a very different view on it. take a listen to the md collective. >> mt. rushmore is a national symbol of white supremacy. when you carve out four white men who were colonizers, who committed genocide to the american people and yet carve out these faces, and that be okay in society today is fundamentally wrong. we have to change systemic racism and give this land back to the indigenous people. >> reporter: you have a historical past this country is now facing. add to that you have a community here that is vulnerable, vulnerable to the coronavirus. it is impacted in a way that other communities are not. you take, for example, some of these reservations south of where i am in the black hills, and it's three hours to the nearest hospital. there is not running water. so the concern is not jus

you contrast that with the people who live here, the black hills, a sacred spot for native americans. this is something that they have now been fighting for for 150 years and fought for it today on this road, on the day in which the president called andrew jackson a great man. and you can understand a little bit how upset people are and for very good reason. contrast that of course with what we saw three, four years ago at the keystone pipeline in north dakota where donald trump put down those protests forcefully. the new president in office puts down these protests forcefully on a native american reservation where there's a pipeline running through. so this is not new for this community. i think people have felt this for a long time. this president has made his position clear on these issues. he's highlighted it tonight by again calling president andrew jackson the great andrew jackson. it's not clear to me what his strategy is in widening his support. i mean i don't know how you widen your support with this sort of talk. but he loves the symbolic nature of these fireworks. we've see

it wasn't even fully formed at that point, but this black hills, these black hills were given to the lakota people, and it was less than ten years later when people searching for gold came across these hills and the lakota people were starved and killed and run out of these hills. ever since then, they've been on reservations and been fighting for their land back. so you had this ugly and frankly sad scene where as folks were being taken away, you had trump supporters yelling at them, go home, go home. and you had these native american protesters yelling back, this is my home. this is my land. i think there's not a common understanding between the two groups of each other. there was just these very ugly scenes, just vitriol being thrown back and forth by the two groups. you know, i say sad, ali, because there's not a common understanding here. there's just two completely different points of view. you have supporters of the president, and then you have the folks who live here. i have to say you were out there covering these protests in minneapolis and around the country, and we saw a h

the sioux nation, the lakota nation said we want our land back, we want the black hills back.al to be shut down, ali. >> cal perry, thank you. i know you're going to continue to be out there through the course of the evening. >>> coming up next, the president's lagging re-election campaign and the growing number of polls that show joe biden has the lead. sam cedar and christina greer join me right after this. the stock market will reach its bottom, we've got to be prepared for this to last a long time. if you assume that you're out of work for nine months but you end up only being out of work for three, well that's great. but if you think you're going to be furloughed for three months and it lasts for nine, well that'll be emotionally devastating. so, we've got to prepare ourselves. tangibly and practically, as well as psychologically and emotionally. struggling to clean toughm mr. clean. bathroom messes with sprays? then you gotta try mr. clean magic erasers. just wet.. squeeze.. and erase tough messes around your bathtub and shower. mr. clean magic erasers. there's no clean

children's rights to clean water and healthy ecosystems and having land back in 2020, because the-- the black hillsllion acres are federal lands. >> sreenivasan: this is also happening in the context of tension between tribal nations and the state government on measures ytaking to make sure that the coronavirus doesn't spread. >> it-- yo, it's all connected,ruir. not only's visit, but-- but the deliberate visit that governor kristi noem s are-- we are literally not going to socl distance. we're not going to concern ourself with other people's health and well-being. we're going to do the opposite of that. and the-- the health and safety checkpoints that not only the-pi th ridge reservation, but the cheyenne river sioux tribe and the rosebud sioux tribe and lower brule, it's the law of the nationthe sioux nation. this is the only way that we're survive another euralague.o and a lot of our european brothers and sisters, either they feel extra brave because they'd svive so ma plagues. but we as indigenous nations have a very direct memory of what we went through with smallpox, cholera,panish flu. i mea

so with the you and of course you know you saw what happened every july 4th and mt rushmore the black hills and the area north steps down the rocks your education are all within the treaty boundaries agreed upon with the great sioux nation of which cheyenne river and standing rock and my my dad's tribe the its tribe are all components of it and i know that there there's been resistance for for generations to a lot of issues but this this resistance of the pipeline that we can look back at downfall what happened there standing rock as kind of a key moment in that in that movement to it can you take us back to that and then talk about the decision last week from the judge to shut it down and where where this puts us. well the court access pipeline and the standing rock sioux tribe had made a request the grassroots people had made a request that we commonly help with them because the core axis was going to rule 851 for at laramie treaty and again like jacqueline said treaty is the law of the land under article 6 of the united states constitution and so we were making a stand because the water

sioux tribe, the native american nation which claims ownership of mount rushmore, and the sacred black hillsh they were carved. he's assistant proessor of american studies at university of new mexico. thank you for coming on the programme. thank you for having me. what do you make of donald trump? visit? donald trump's visit is really in response to a long—standing conflict that can be summed up injust the last couple of months even though there has been in between the governor of south da kota between the governor of south dakota and the tribes and, as you mentioned earlier, the governor has refused to the states. she has been very aggressive towards the tribes who have set up health check followed to protect the communities because, as some of your listeners may no, indigenous tribes in the us are chronically underfunded for healthcare and the infrastructure in place is very precarious so any kind of infection of covid—i9 such as here, can be devastating again about multiple generations of families. it is not that indigenous people have lack of immunity it is actually the structural condit

used president trump's visit to protest the mount rushmore memorial itself, pointing out that the black hillskota people. while leaders of several native american tribes near mount rushmore raised concerns that the event could lead to virus outbreaks among their members, who they say are particularly vulnerable to covid—19 because of an underfunded health ca re system. i'm joined live now byjoy porter — a professor of american indigenous and environmental studies at the university of hull. thank you forjoining us. tell us more about the concerns of native americans mount rushmore and other areas of south dakota. happy independence day. from a lot of indigenous people's point of view, this is more visitors coming to indian country at a time when they don't need them. you have about influx of people coming into the state that has not implemented a lot of anti—coronavirus measures. and people are concerned, indigenous people, that the fireworks being pushed and the people coming in could have negative impacts on the natural environment and wildfires could be caused which could affect the water,

they shoes they have with rocky mountains and black hills and all these kind of there's there's big 3 big power struggles for real power going on in that area so the pricing is decent however the biggest thing by far is the banking that killen's been doing a lot of work with and crypto friendly banking along with the economic incentives and the no regulation but as far as mining goes i don't see wyoming as being a very big hub for mining for a few years until they can get their power price down or are right so on the follow up of this issue of power and power pricing etc so a big mess perception about bitcoin mining is that it's environmentally not good that's actually from what i understand the opposite of the true case can you elaborate yeah actually i suppose the round table this year we held. a big kind of group around a bunch of the top miners got around and the reality is right now i think there's 85 percent of the power used to mine decline it might be more now is either renewable or it would go to waste friend since northern sweden there's still a lot of mining going on and th

caller: i wanted to talk about mount rushmore and the black hills werehe black awarded to the people of the sioux nation by the fort laramie treaty of 1868. because their expedition discovered gold, congress immediately set into motion demand to take the land from the sioux indians. cases dragged on through the courts until 1980 when the decision was finally made to take the land. said, aenting judge more ripened rank case of dishonest dealings may ever be found. that's where it stands now. billion given $1 in 1980 waiting for these two people. and they refuse the money. host: as far as mount rushmore itself, would you call for a change? a removal? caller: mount rushmore was built on stolen land. it was built by people who took the land from the indians. it certainly isn't a symbol that represents our people. host: what should be done with it? offer: it should be closed and ignored. i don't think there's any way you can destroy. host: it was last week the president appeared at mount rushmore to make comments leading up to the july 4 weekend. those are available at sea spend -- c-span

we believe in the black hills of south dakota. jonathan hunt is live on the scene at the independence day rally. >> reporter: the president just wrapping up an extremely forceful speech in mount rushmore, and several thousands have gathered in the shadow of this iconic monuments. he began by saying mount rushmore will never be desecrated. it will stand with -- he paid tribute to american greatness, will soon be greater than ever before and launched into a long and no holds barred enunciation of protesters that torn down statues and monuments, our nation is witnessing a merciless campaign to wipe out our history, defame our heroes, he race our values and indoctrinate our children. he said this attack on our liberty, decried it as far left fascism taking root he said in our schools, newsrooms and corporate board rooms. we will not be silenced. you can hear the noise of the fireworks display, what he had in mind, were not silenced today. a group of them gathering on the road approaching mount rushmore and for some time shutting down

tribal leaders say the black hills where mount rushmore is located were taken against treaty agreements a century and a half ago. >>> this is shaping up to be a july 4 unlike any other. the pandemic canceled firework shows in parades in the bay area. people are still finding ways we have a look at how some people are getting creative in their way to mark the holiday. >> they are. this may well be a fourth of july that everyone will remember. a lot of creativity throughout the area as people figure out how to start this social distancing summer. >> reporter: no fireworks. the area shows have been canceled. parades as well to prevent group gatherings. the city of concord got creative. he asked residents to film videos for a virtual parade in concert. >> it comes back to community. everyone is yearning for community. >> reporter:@reminds people to celebrate in place at home. all eyes will still be on the skies for a different kind of show. >> a big tanner sing happy fourth of july. >> we wanted to show patriotism. >> reporter: instead of going downtown, the parade will come to them. >> scr

she was sent out to black hills to play with her. but rebecca got rambunctious and they got reuben to come to the white house and settle rebecca down. they both escaped at different times, even the grace designed a house for rebecca on the grounds. so they eventually were taken to the. zero >> how did you deal with the furs that she wore? >> she does wear furs. i'm sure she just thought that was fine. >> she was rabbit, that's what i read. she loved baseball more than the president. i think she loved it. i notice that when he was writing about the great battles say over taxes, the skull problems, vetoing, grace was taken to a baseball game. that's what they did in washington, and later when she was a low she went to baseball with her friends in boston herself, subsequent to the presidency. >> she was a red sox fan? >> here they watch the washington senators. how far into their months in office after the death of president harding did they decide that he would seek the presidency in 1924? >> it was automatic, but the moment it became

a lot of fireworks and flyover in the black hills. jillian: appreciate it. two police officers are hurt in kansas city, missouri. one officer was shot when responding to a robbery on the city bus. the bus driver was shot, both are expected to be okay, the suspect incredible condition after a shootout with police. another officer was shot in the head after a disturbance at mcdonald's, that officer in stable condition after surgery, police shot and killed the suspect.nd and alleged accomplice will be extradited to new york to face child sex abuse charges, fbi arresting maxwell at a luxury new hampshire estate accused of helping epstein recruit, groom and ultimately abuse girls as young as 14 in the mid-90s. >> delivered them to the trap she and epstein had set for them. jillian: maxwell facing federal charges including conspiracy, enticement and transport of minors to engage in illegal sex acts, denying allegations. ever high-profile arrest since shockwaves across the country jeffrey epstein's accuses breathing a sigh of relief. one of their attorneys describe

touted the event as a way to honor america, but for many native american tribes in south dakota, the black hillsacred place that was systematically taken, despite a treaty signed by the u.s. government. some have called on the monument to be removed. it's a similar situation unfolding across the country as cities and states grapple with what to do with many civil war monuments. joining me right now to talk about all of this, archaeologist and host of "expedition unknown" on the discovery channel, josh gates. good to see you, and happy fourth. >> happy fourth. good to see you, too. >> we like to think of monuments, many do in america, as being a permanent reminder of a person or important event. you have traveled the world. are these monuments really as permanent as many would like to think? >> well, clearly no. you know, and that's the short answer. i mean, archaeology tells us that destruction of monuments is actually more than norm than preservation. we are a young nation, but if you look back through history, toppling of monuments and statues is something that, you know, has been going on for

i went with them up into the black hill and they didn't seem intimidated either on the fast highway orhe curbing looping roads that lead up to mount rushmore, one of our great. >> so having that 80th annual gathering this year and they cut out a lot of the events with a lot of live entertainment into the gathering but so far at least, the convention is on. on for august this coming. >> something else geraldo can do, drive a take on the motorcycle so what made america great and a time were all questioning america's greatness, i don't. former episodes coming out. we saw a document of sam houston and they were talking about when interjectioandrew jackson said. watch. >> saying that about houston and interjectioandrew jackson. >> covering the lone star of texas, hears a voice welcoming it with united stars & stripes inglorious resolve in which, in general you've acted a noble part and are amongst the heroes, and philanthropist. >> final thought? >> go to my fox nation channel and see the show. [laughter] >> emily. >> no, that's it for us. >> a while back, you're turning down. thanks so muc

that is what donald trump says he has in store for all americans to enjoy in the black hills of south dakota, a celebration including remarks, fireworks and military flyovers to kick off the fourth of july weekend. the decision to hold the celebration comes as the commander-in-chief prepares to hold similar festivities in the nation's capital despite the protest of the city's mayor. >> we think we are following our health department's advice to be very careful about large gatherings, even large gatherings that are outside. we do not think this is in keeping with the best cdc and department of health guidance. >> congressional democrats agree with bowser telling the secretaries of defense and interior in a letter the administration including your agencies should be focused on helping american families, not on a vanity project for the president. we urge you to suspend any plans of such an event. fireworks of a different kind. as stocks soared after the june employment report showed the economy added 4.8 million jobs last month much greater than expected, the employment rate slid from 13

. >> hundred i 20th 1927 hoover arrived in the black hills of south dakota, where he briefed to the vacationing president about the mississippi valleys flood recovery needs. coolidge may have feared that his ubiquitous commerce secretary would ask him to open the spigots of the federal treasury for flood relief and reconstruction, in any case, the atmosphere in south dakota, seem to have been anything but cordial, when hoover stepped off the train, it was a secret service agent who met him, the president was not did not get out of his car, when hoover came over to the waiting on mobile, coolidge greeted him without a smile, later the two men were show first to the president's office in rapid city. and the entire drive 30 miles, neither man spoke to the other. less than two weeks later,. hoover was vacationing in california, when it's telegram arrived from the succeeded, press president coolidge issued a statement as follows, i do not choose to run for president in 1928, quote please telephone or telegraph your views of president statement. suddenly, the path to the white house was open. where w

that this was and is sacred land here at the black hills in south dakota.rest fires. we had the governor of north dakota basically taking credit for bringing it back and supported by the president, craig.all right. cal, thank you. >>> i want to bring into the conversation zena max new book there it is right there. it's called the end of politics. that's out next week. congrats on the book. >> thank you. >> let's start with this trip to south dakota. here we are in the middle of a global pandemic and there's another event where the president is encouraging a large gathering. as far as we can tell, there will be no social distancing. they're not going to be required to wear those face masks there in south carolina, nor will they be required to wear them tomorrow. the fireworks display in washington, d.c., beth. why not? >> well, you know, craig, i would hope president trump could make a message to the country today and put on that mask when he goes to south dakota. yesterday he indicated in an interview that he's not against masks, he might consider wearing o

rushmore is carved on one of our most sacred mountains within the black hills, and the people are angryan do as a leader is stand back and support them, to stand with them and, you know, help them in every way that i can to do what's right. >> that was a monument in your culture before anyone went out there and started to sculpt those faces there, isn't that true? >> that is correct, lawrence. that specific piece of the mountain represented six grandfathers, six of our ancestors, and it had a very sacred and significant meaning prior to the carving of america's first presidents. >> and what has been the reaction of the tribe, members of the tribe, to what is coming tomorrow? >> the people -- you know, i already have members of my tribe, people reaching out from across america that are wanting to come and stand with the great sioux nation and to exercise their amendment rights to protest and to demonstrate. and, you know, right now, you know, it's just -- with this worldwide pandemic that's happening,e happening, we're encouraging all of our members to exercise safety, to wear personal p

on contiguous lands the 1.2 million acre black hills national forest, fireworks are prohibited.te lands, you know where that fire was in custer state park which was six miles as the crow flies? fireworks prohibited in custer state park. so the partners, your inner agency partners aren't allowing fireworks. i sat in the parking lot across there whether i became fire chief 2001. i sat in the parking lot with my crews and we had to pre-stage fire equipment over there and we staged usually about five engines and a hand crew and the rest of the community also staged engines and things. that would have been the forest service and national forest service and volunteer fire departments. each of the years launching fireworks when you had the flaming embers coming down and land in the dry receptive fuel bed and have spot fires so most years we were very lucky. we were able to have resources to pick up the spot fires. and spot fires did not outpace the resources on scene. so we didn't have a really large fire but the potential is there. so if your inner agency community really is not banni

carved out of south dakota's black hills on land sacred to native americans who have never gotten overthe government took over this location and turned it into a tourist attraction. native american activists say the government should give back the land to the original owners. they are planning protests and local tribal councils have denounced the trump visit. >> all of a sudden what indigenous people have been saying for generations, there's an appetite to have a conversation about symbols of white supremacy, structural racism. >> reporter: historian tom griffith says getting rid of the monuments is not the answer. >> we can easily erase all of the symbols of our past, but we can't ignore the history. it will remain, no matter what sculptures are torn down around the country, and that continues today. >> reporter: to some mt. rushmore, the creation, is almost as controversial today as its creator. the sculptor was an ardent supporter of the ku klux klan but never took the oath. >> more practically he was affiliated with the klan to raise money. >> reporter: about the fireworks, there i

i believe the black hills region still technically is native american land so it is going to incite some grievances so do you think the president should be there to agitate that? i can see what you mean, it is a stunning wonder of this country, but it could be interpreted as rubbing salt in some people's wounds. >> any time you have the president of the united states come to your state, he is not coming to cause problems, he is coming to celebrate and unite people. this will be the second time that i've been on mount rushmore with the president. i think that's exactly what the president wants to do, he wants to share a vision of what this country is all about, the goals that we have of making things better, and i don't think people see it as anything other than that. for protesters, it gives them an opportunity to highlight their grievances but with mount rushmore than any time you bring in additional president to mount rushmore, there's always an opportunity for people to seek out and that is never going to change. >> neil: as long as it very peaceful, to your point, enjoy the evening.

the black hills here promised to native americans in 1868. that treaty was breached less than ten years later so we will see protests on the vicinity. >> i'll see you again later in the coverage. thank you for the update. and michelle goldberg and dr. vin gupta with us, as we know it in seattle, u-dub. good to see you both. >> good to see you. a lot of stories combining tonight. your thoughts? >> look. when donald trump was elected, i was bereft. i was inconsoleable. never in my wildest nightmare could i imagine that america would become a global pariah that our ordinary lives would grind to a halt because of the raging incompetence of this administration, because of its continuing failure. unlike any other developed nation in the world to address the seriousness of what has befallen us. at this point, donald trump likes to call this the wuhan virus. this is now the american virus. most other countries in the world have this under control and the president's approach is basically, actually, i think nbc has a story, the official approach is le