you have some pretty nice deer hunting up there in the blackbelt, and so my family enjoys your area. let me ask you, being from alabama, we've talked about the 9th circuit and what has occurred. it seems to me that the epa in many ways is -- produces solutions that are looking for problems and so tell me about your area. i know you're a couple hundred miles north of us, relating to that issue and piggyback off of what mr. schwab has said. >> yes, sir. one -- one of the other things that i would like to address that mr. schwab said that i think would be beneficial to you is in the south we also have a pine beetle. we have the southern pine beetle in the south. >> right. >> and it has devastated us back in the '80s. really devastated us. >> yes, sir. >> and he was talking about the cost of his equipment and getting things done. we used to have -- in florida we had a little pulpwood trucks and in alabama we had little pulpwood trucks running around with people who would get out and take care of these small areas of southern pine beetle, and i'm just wondering what's going to happen beca

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