many blackberry users are linked to their corporate accounts. the iphone trumps android when it comes to the money class. android looks to be the people's choice among the middle classes. 100,000 to $99,000 a year use the iphone and families, $45,000 or less use android. >> i have a prepaid phone. s it it is basic. >> our nbc accounts are linked to blackberries. that's all i'm say. >> we'll be right back. >>> labeling >>> ladies and gentlemen, alec baldwin. >> alec baldwin beat out steve martin, his 16th time, more than anybody else, his 16th time he's hosted or will. the musical guest will be radio head. he first hosted in 1990. the musical guests were b-52. it tells you how far we've come. you can see the season premier right here on nbc bay area. looks a lot different there. >> he looks like his younger brother. >> one of the many baldwin brothers tomorrow night on nbc. >> thanks for joining us. "nightly news" is next. see you back here at

the blackberry, okay? what? >> make it blue again and just have a phone. >> i want the blackberry from two years ago. >> i want the blackberry from ten years ago. i would settle for that. blackberries today glitch all of the time. they put the apps on the programs can't handle and they're impossible to use. >> you know there is a new operating system coming through at the beginning of next year and a whole new range. and actually, the new blackberries have been really well received. it's a crisis, because they keep -- as you say, they haven't come through with a design or operati operating design. they're not turning over fast enough, that's what apple is good at. >> well, and basically, the blackberry is like the pcs, where they put on a bunch of different gunk that the operating system can't keep up with. so you you sit there staring at your blackberry while it's thinking. it blinks out. >> that sounds a man that has obviously got a work blackberry as we all have within nbc-u and the frustration is palpa

. >> fedex and blackberry do a much better job anyway. >> stephen: yeah, blackberries are way better. you can't play brick breaker on an envelope. stupid envelopes. and if grandma really wants to send you $5 on your birthday, she can fedex it. although she -- you may want the send her the $5 back so she can cover the $15 minimum. there is one down side to the united states becoming the only civilized nation without a postal service. i have not yet appeared on a stamp. [audience reacts] >> i know, i know, i no. i always wondered whether they'd go with the young me or the fat me. [applause] working on it. well, folks, that ends today. go to colbertnation.com and order a set of actual u.s. postage stamps featuring me sending a farewell e-mail to the post office on my smart phone. it is perfect for your christmas cards. [applause] [cheering and applause] but, folks, other than giving my fans the chance to lick my backside, i cannot think of one good reason that we need a post office. here to give me several good reasons is former male carrier and author of "there's always work at the post

so blackberry messenger or bbm is blackberry's proprietary instant messaging service.rates on its own network and uses secure encryption. this has become a concern for government. when we saw the riots in london, bbm was one of the tools used to organize the riots. per the request of the british government, rim, the yeeuaters of blackberry, recently this weekend, new news, they have decided to shut down the service in times of unrest when the government requests so. it becomes this continued debate of when we see over in egypt or see over in syria, when they cut the phone lines, when they cut internet, we call that repression. when it's happening over here in the states we take, for example, the b.a.r.t. system, san francisco's subway system a few weeks ago there was protests and they cut the phone lines. in london we're going to cut bbm services. i will say the british government said it will be unlikely they would cut it. just even having that debate, when is it repression and when is it unjust? >> is it just the british government with the problem? >> that's a good

finish with gains for the fourth straight session, but a bellwether tech stock, the maker of the blackberry mobile device, research in motion, turned in a much-worse-than- expected quarter. the company earned 80 cents per share, eight cents less than estimates. the results are just over half of what they were one year ago. revenues also came in short of forecast, driving the disappointment. the company shipped 10.6 million blackberry smartphones as it started selling devices with its new operating system, hoping to counter the competition from the iphone. it shipped 200,000 of its tablet computer, called the playbook. that's a drop of more than 50% versus what it shipped just a quarter before. these two devices are the bread and butter at research in motion, but both came in well short of expectations. ahead of these results, the stock had lost a fraction on heavier-than-usual volume. after falling to its 52-week low in early august, it had been trying to rebound from the sharp sell-off in june when it cut its financial guidance. but with tonight's disappoint, the stock was down 18% after t

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no matter what you're doing with your blackberry behind the wheel, it is illegal or your cell phone. don't do it. >> reporter: it also becomes a primary offense. >> absolutely. so, if the police see you doing it, they pull you over, they picture you. that's great news bus that will make maryland's roads safer. important law. >> really quickly, there are a couple of other laws you wanted to talk about when it comes to driving. the manslaughter is also tightened up and also another law. talk about that. >> absolutely. drunk driving, they've got a law that's going to increase requirements for interlock devices. that's very good, too. they're estimating another 5,000 marylanders will have to use interlock devices if they're caught drinking and driving. that's helping to get drunk drivers off the road which makes us all safer. lastly, maryland has had a tough standard to prove vehicular manslaughter or vehicular homicide. they've changed those requirements and it will be easier to convict people who are driving outrageously on the road and kill somebody. now instead of getting a traffic t

speaking of tech stock, just an absolutely ugly quarter for research in motion, the blackberry quarterpany's profits plunged 58% and revenue was down 15%, and as it sold far fewer blackberries and play books than expected. about a million less blackberries and 300,000 less play books in the tablet space, as a result, and the rim shares are getting absolutely hammered and right now down by 20%. the yahoo shares on the other hand are moving higher. a report is coming out yesterday that there are several potential suitors for the company, either for a potential takeover, or just buying pieces of yahoo. and the bidders that would be included in that are reported to be microsoft, chinese e commerce site ali baba. and menlo park private equity firm silver lake. and microsoft and yahoo has an agreement with ads and search. and yahoo already owns a more than 40% stake in ali ababba, and part of the dealing with yahoo, it may sell the asian holdings which include a 35% stake in yahoo japan and put those two things together and it is set to be over half of the market value. the shares rose on th

you can extend it to your blackberry.you can get anythingen disbraifed in the -- engraved in the same amount of time. bill a awesome, single and living it, unicorns suck. any one of those and take care of this bad boy. >> and don't look through the pictures. >> wow, look at me. >> this is going to be fun. all right i changed my mind. i am never getting a brazilian. >> now i know what it was like to be a warrior in the civil war. no painkillers. i don't know if you are aware of this, this is something i like to call set and repeat. i don't know if you are aware of this, but it is called step and repeat. i don't know if i am teaching you anything here. >> i deaf -- i definitely have seen that. >> how best to tackle fashion week? who should i be hobb knobing with and knob hobbing with. >> obviously at stone rose because it is the place to be. >> i am not only at stone rose, but i am stoned. we will talk later if you want to join me. i want to brag, but i got these ba had boys at a vendor outside. what do you think? >> can i

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suddenly messages started to be sent by blackberry pound, which the authorities can now access. the swarm, the mob, will be streets. what's it is not always morality and intelligence that are the cisive influence on what is going on. sometimes it is just events, headlines, or even a state of emergency that we find represented there. but the swarm can also be a group on the hunt. in germany they have set their sights on politicians who have copied parts of their work with the doctorates. this man talks about his job with a ph.d. and for the prime minister. searching for style changes, always a sign of plagiarism, he worked anonymously on the internet but does not see himself as a hunter. let's imagine they hunted, wild animal that can escape as long as there are not too many hunters. when there are hundreds or thousands, they do not have a chance. but plagiarism, it is completely different. a single person can uncover it, they just need a lot of time. >> it also shows how quickly and effectively it can work. each collor stands for a person who has examined one part of a doctoral

but it will be tied to amazon services as opposed to blackberry services.nd that appeals to a different market. >> yeah. because you have shopping, you have music, a number of things. >> video streaming which amazon is doing a lot of now lately and the kindle bookface. so i talked a lot of people. should i get an ipad or kindle? amazon is saying, we have enough ipad in this and we obviously have kindle functionality in this, buy this and have both. it will run android apps because it will be an android based tablet -- speculation but it should be android-based and there are hundreds of thousands of android-based apps. the key is whether amazon will let you run any app on it or have a certain basket of apps that they have approved and filtered. i'm not clear on that but it will run lots of apps. >> and email? we do it on our ipads all the time. >> email is so easy now. through a web browser for gmail, yahoo mail, aol mail. or if you have a special client, it may not be pre- installed but it will be easy to install if not. >> they announced it tomorrow. it co

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research in motion led the nasdaq surging on speculation investor carl icon has taken a stake in the blackberry maker. walgreen fell 6% after ending its relationship with express scripts. home prices rose for a fourth straight month in july. consumer confidence improved slightly in september after plummeting in august. after the bell, tech services company accenture was up on quarterly earning. higher after the bell, payroll processor paychex posting stronger than expected earnings. finally when it comes to social networking, women lead the way. a new survey shows they're more likely to keep in touch with friends and family via social networking. with men preferring phone and voice mail. >>> coming up, a rookie comes to the red box rescue. the braves feel the heat. and prince hits like a king. >>> plus, fighting for a wild card playoff spot. tampa's rays pull off a triple play against the yankees. your early morning sports headlines are straight ahead. >>> and the wild card teams not the only ones feeling the heat. many waking up to a muggy start to the day. we'll talk about that in your foreca

. >>> blackberry playbook feels more heat in the tabloid wars. >> the government starts its fiscal year without a budget. with business news, linda bell joining us from bloomberg headquarters in new york. good morning. >> good morning. in a few hours investors will get a key report on consumer spending. that makes up the biggest part of our economy. stock index futures ahead of that in getting a lower open. the government's fiscal year ends today without an agreement by congress on how to pay for new projects. federal contractors are laying off people or delaying hiring. among the delayed projects is a dollar contract for work of the department of palm lulz security -- department of homeland security. research in motion denies word that it is halting its playbook. best buy is slicing the price. if you thought target selling designer goods was a big deal. it is about to get exclusive items from another major fashion house. i will tell you in my next report. live at bloomberg headquarters in new york, linda bell reporting for abc 7 news. >>> 60 degrees. feeling good. >> still ahead anothe

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research in motion led the nasdaq surging on speculation investor carl icon has taken a stake in the blackberry maker. walgreen fell 6% after ending its relationship with express scripts. home prices rose for a fourth straight month in july. consumer confidence improved slightly in september after plummeting in august. after the bell, tech services company accenture was up on quarterly earnings. higher after the bell, payroll processor paychex posting stronger than expected earnings. finally when it comes to social networking, women lead the way. a new survey shows they're more likely to keep in touch with friends and family via social networking. with men preferring phone and voice mail. i have yet to meet a guy that likes to chat on the phone, so i'm a little suspicious of this one. >>> coming up, a rookie comes to the red box rescue. the braves feel the heat. and prince hits like a king. >>> plus, fighting for a wild card playoff spot. tampa's rays pull off a triple play against the yankees. your first look at sports is straight ahead. you're watching "first look" on msnbc. all these give sa

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. >> maybe they're using their thumbs on their blackberries. >> iphone. >> they're drinking their parentsorted beer because they still live at home. that's the stereotype, i know. >> that's the stereotype. but really the more accurate stereotype, we have to remember that only about a third of young people in their 20s have bachelor's degrees or more. the majority of this generation, two-thirds, don't even have the bachelor's degree. they're out there trying to get a job, any job. and the reality is we have an 11 million jobs deficit in this country. >> that's the thing, jean. just to wrap it up, the class of 2009, 2010 and 2011, they're all competing for the same jobs at this point. >> i know. and i feel for them. i completely agree with tamara, the majority of this generation really does want a job, does want to work hard. the problem is we have this increasing minority that's the stereotype, but it's true. we know there are more of these folk who say, i don't want a job that isn't perfect and if i don't get that perfect job and i don't get that job who has all the tinge things i want, i

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the company came up short of estimates for both earnings and revenues-- shipping fewer blackberry and tablet computers- - the playbook-- last quarter. but even with today's steep loss, the stock remains above its 52-week low hit last month. at&t continues recovering from its drop earlier this month when the federal government sued to block the company's $39 billion buyout of t-mobile u.s.a. the stock was up another 1.4% today, even though seven states joined the justice department's lawsuit. speaking of deals, conglomerate, united technologies is looking to get bigger. reuters reports the company is securing financing for what may be its biggest buyout in decades-- perhaps topping $20 billion. shares were a little weaker today on the rumors. but shares of possible buyout targets were rallying. rockwell collins and goodrich each popped more than 7%. textron added almost 7%. those companies refused to comment. finally, sugar prices saw a sharp drop today. this is the past 180 sessions. today, sugar had its biggest one-day slide in six months. some technical factors from future expiratio

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sort of why is a crackdown on the media if you like particularly social media facebook twitter and blackberry messenger which police say they have evidence of those kinds of media having been used to incite the riots people have been arrested for using social media to to incite violence lawyers and civil rights groups are calling a lot of the sentencing disproportionate but particularly in the case of two men who were jailed for four years each for inciting the riots on facebook they opened up their facebook events and asked people to subscribe to them to go and bust up their local towns essentially and those are some of the toughest sentences they've been handed down. reporting there from london well for more on the impact of the police drive to obtain unused media materials i'm now joined live by investigative journalist tony goldwyn joining us live there in bristol newquay good to see here a latino as a journalist have you had any firsthand experience of police requesting material from you. yes i certainly have around about decade ago i was involved in the campaigning around genetic foods