we have basically people on one knee in blackface, yes, in blackface singing mammy. and then we had butterfly mcqueen thing i don't know nothing about birthing no babies from gone with the wind. that was our role model. there were no other role models for women. there were distinct gender roles when i was going a. you never saw a man pushing a baby carriage. you just didn't see it. it was -- women stayed at home and in which quote unquote bring home the bacon. women were expected to be cheerleaders, not business leaders. if they were allowed out of the house they're expected to be secretaries in the office and not secretaries of state. and women were expected to marry a doctor, not be a doctor. so all this in the 1950s is preposterous that my father was a ditch digger, who was a janitor, and said my five girls, my little dark skinned girls are going to be doctors. well, my dad of course without education had to do menial work. any work in the slaughterhouses of new york. he pumped home heating oil. he was a janitor. he laid the bricks. and that was my day. now, my mo