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blackface is a bigen b lack peo skin color. >> people who are responsible for popularizing and creating these looks aren't getting the same monetary advantages and getting modeling opportunities and things like that. >> reporter: but emma denies the accusations, saying this was never her intention and that her looks are natural. >> i haven't done anything to make myself look darker. i get the tan naturally when i've been in the sun. whenever somebody has asked me, i've always answered that i am white, because i've never seen myself as anything else. >> to some degree it doesn't really matter how she personally identifies herself. it's very clear that she's tapping into an aesthetic, a style, a look that was created by and maintained by a lot of girls from the hood. >> reporter: many who assumed she was black or biracial have accused her of darkening her skin and altering her hair and lips in order to capitalize on beauty trends and get brand endorsements. >> i've been accused of doing -- having my nose done, and i've been accused of doing my lips, lip injections and surgeries, and perme
blackface is a bigen b lack peo skin color. >> people who are responsible for popularizing and creating these looks aren't getting the same monetary advantages and getting modeling opportunities and things like that. >> reporter: but emma denies the accusations, saying this was never her intention and that her looks are natural. >> i haven't done anything to make myself look darker. i get the tan naturally when i've been in the sun. whenever somebody has asked me, i've always...
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(ken) coming up...after sharing a blackface halloween costume on facebook... a missouri nurse is now out of a job.... tonight we look at the history of where blackface started and hear from experts on why this practice is racist... (vicki) plus... from pumpkins to pot farms... why one farmer is making the controversial move in half moon bay... (ken) and after the break details on what caused a deadly tour bus crash in the east bay that shut down a major highway for hours... internet. but not just any internet. it's "gaming with america's best internet provider" internet. it's "all your teenagers streaming at once" internet. it's "i can get up to one-two-three-four-five mobile lines included" internet. it's internet from xfinity that makes your life... simple. easy. awesome. get a special offer on xfinity internet and tv for $35 each a month for 12 months when you bundle both, and ask how you can save on your wireless bill when you include xfinity mobile click, call or visit a store today. (ken) a crash involving a semi truck and a tour bus killed two people an
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the problem is she painted her face and body in blackface to do it.ng next to her is dressed in blackface too... and is supposed to be rapper, jay-z. theres also another photo from 2009 where she dressed as a member of destiny's child in blackface. someone who worked with her at the hospital told administrators about the costume... and now she's fired. ( darya ) coming up on the kron 4 morning buzz... remembering the life and career of giants legend willie mccovey. plus...the raiders and niners play in the toilet bowl and draymond green says vote for me. green says vote for me. ♪ when i first came to ocean bay, what i saw was despair. i knew something had to be done. hurricane sandy really woke people up, to showing that we need to invest in this community. i knew having the right partner we could turn this place around. it was only one bank that could finance a project this difficult and this large, and that was citi. preserving affordable housing preserves communities. so we are doing their kitchens and their flooring and their lobbies and the groun
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kelly's show canceled after she shared her views about blackface. >> but what is racist? because, truly, you do get in trouble if you are a white person who puts on blackface at halloween, or a black person who puts on whiteface for halloween. like, back when i was a kid, that was okay, as long as you were dressing up as, like, a character. >> reporter: her "today" cohosts quickly speaking out. >> well, she apologized to the staff, she owes a bigger apology to folks of color around the country. >> reporter: and now, a group of high school students from kelly's old school are calling her out in an op-ed published by nbc news. "we weren't alive when megyn was in high school, but in the recollection of many of our parents who grew up around here, it was not acceptable even in the 1980s town that she knew." at fox news, kelly had a history of racially charged remarks. >> for all you kids watching at home, santa just is white. jesus was a white man, too. >> nbc executives were very aware of her history, and they decided to risk it and now it's blown up. >> reporter: nbc news t
kelly's show canceled after she shared her views about blackface. >> but what is racist? because, truly, you do get in trouble if you are a white person who puts on blackface at halloween, or a black person who puts on whiteface for halloween. like, back when i was a kid, that was okay, as long as you were dressing up as, like, a character. >> reporter: her "today" cohosts quickly speaking out. >> well, she apologized to the staff, she owes a bigger apology to folks...
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ditched the blackface version of the character instead opting for a sort marks but on the streets of the netherlands there's been mixed reaction. we stand here to protest because we're finding a deal black people racist one this exchange said this is to reduce our pleasure and for everyone i think it's. it's. because they don't see. the black or white or towards the world i think it's a it's a non-discussion. and. i think that we should keep the festivities as they are and keep black pete i see no point in having a white pete after all this is for children. story now is independent journalist lucre of a we're going to discuss there's a further. which direction do we go here stick with traditions or move with the times. ok first the tradition is also in germany in catholic germany in belgium in northern faso it's much wider than the netherlands and for the moment it's only in the netherlands that you have this reaction actually dates back to much earlier than the nineteenth century to the fourteenth century probably and a little black boy the servant of the bishop since nicholas who w
ditched the blackface version of the character instead opting for a sort marks but on the streets of the netherlands there's been mixed reaction. we stand here to protest because we're finding a deal black people racist one this exchange said this is to reduce our pleasure and for everyone i think it's. it's. because they don't see. the black or white or towards the world i think it's a it's a non-discussion. and. i think that we should keep the festivities as they are and keep black pete i see...
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ditched the blackface version of the character instead opting for cert marks but on the streets of the netherlands there's been mixed reaction. we stand here to protest because we'll find a deal. with one of these to change it so the festivities are pleasant for everyone i think it's. because they don't see. these black or white we talk would. i think it's. it's a non-disclosure. i think that we should keep the festivities as they are and keep black people but i see no point in having a white heat this is for children. independent journalist lucre very told us that while he regrets the potential lost of this tradition he understands the need to move with the times back in the day that was acceptable it was acceptable colonial practice but it's not now and this is the objection from those protesting against the tradition isnt it. yes yes and i understand i mean if it goes so far it's it would be it will be very difficult to defend this tradition but i remember vividly in the first year of my primary school you know being scared of this guy you had is surprising eyes coming to us it was
ditched the blackface version of the character instead opting for cert marks but on the streets of the netherlands there's been mixed reaction. we stand here to protest because we'll find a deal. with one of these to change it so the festivities are pleasant for everyone i think it's. because they don't see. these black or white we talk would. i think it's. it's a non-disclosure. i think that we should keep the festivities as they are and keep black people but i see no point in having a white...
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the problem is she painted her face and body in blackface to do it.d is supposed to be rapper, jay-z. theres also another photo from 2009 where she dressed as a member of destiny's child in blackface. someone told the hospital she worked at about the costume... and she's now fired. ( james )a little league team in california is broke... after a woman steals over 50- thousand dollars. jennifer haymart who served as the team's treasure... stole just over 52-thousand dollars from the carmichael little league team... and they weren't the only ones. according to police... haymart also took money from the orangevale jax titans baseball club... and more than 85-thousand dollars from an elementary school's parent-teacher organization. <"and it was hard for us to comprehend that someone could steal from children, from their own children--somebody that was a volunteer here.">( james )haymart faces felony charges for embezzlement... and is due in court today. ( darya ) now to bay area basketball... the warriors taking on the pelican last night at oracle arena.(
the problem is she painted her face and body in blackface to do it.d is supposed to be rapper, jay-z. theres also another photo from 2009 where she dressed as a member of destiny's child in blackface. someone told the hospital she worked at about the costume... and she's now fired. ( james )a little league team in california is broke... after a woman steals over 50- thousand dollars. jennifer haymart who served as the team's treasure... stole just over 52-thousand dollars from the carmichael...
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showing two people wearing k-k-k hoods, and a third person in blackface.... now the commmunity is outraged... and school officials are investigating after finding out these teenagers are army recruits... (pam) plus... we are learning more about 49er cheerleader... who is stirring up a controversy after taking a knee during the national anthem... who she is .. coming up... (grant) and after the break... last night was the battle of the bay and with it came with a number of fights.... how many people here are the facts.leading attacks against prop c. the city's chief economist says prop c will "reduce homelessness" by creating affordable housing, expanding mental-health services, and providing clean restrooms and safe shelters with independent oversight, open books, and strict accountability measures to make sure every penny goes to solving our homeless crisis. vote yes on c. endorsed by the democratic party, nancy pelosi, and dianne feinstein. (grant) a bloody brawl at the 49ers - raiders game last night.. a number of videos are being shared around social medi
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ditched the blackface version of the character instead opting for suit marks but opinions are mixed in the netherlands. we stand here to protest because we find they could be three suits who want this to change so the fifty eight is at pleasant for everyone i think it's the big fish it's. because they don't see if. you eat these black or white or towing so i think it's. it's a numbers question for me and i think that we should keep the festivities as they are and keep black pete i see no point in having a white pete after all this is for children. of journalist reveal it's hard for people to change long held traditions but people need to move at the time . go so far it's it would be it will be very difficult to defend this tradition but i remember vividly the first day of my primary school you know being scared of this guy who had his surprising eyes coming to us it was a white man in a black face but he was the interesting character notes and nicholas you know the same book a it was a nice old man but we were more interested by this person with the big crawling eyes so it's impossible
ditched the blackface version of the character instead opting for suit marks but opinions are mixed in the netherlands. we stand here to protest because we find they could be three suits who want this to change so the fifty eight is at pleasant for everyone i think it's the big fish it's. because they don't see if. you eat these black or white or towing so i think it's. it's a numbers question for me and i think that we should keep the festivities as they are and keep black pete i see no point...
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that are just frowned upon in civilized society and hollow even into those i think are you know blackface and like nazi uniforms we just don't do it because it just it's really bad but here is my question to you see it is are we just getting too sensitive because now i see you know article after article telling mothers of white children you're not allowed to dress them up in black panther are mona. or you know this whole idea that if you're not of that race you can't wear a costume of somebody who might be about race do you think we're just too sensitive and we can't just have some civilized society just don't show up in black face or and that sienna farm and everything else let's not be sunset i'd like to know where megan kelly megan kelly custom ranks on that list of sensitivity and cultural sensitivity but you're lucky you're so right i mean the answer is yes i mean and it goes beyond how we mean if a little girl wants to dress up as a native american you know because she saw a car a disney movie or something and she shouldn't be allowed to i don't even know black panther i don't think
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things and so i think it's important to have these conversations to say no it's not ok to dress up in blackface given the history of lynchings and the history of using black faces as a way to humiliate and to press those who are first and slaves and then terrorized to jim crow it is not ok to make jokes about rape given the. prevalence. i do not think it's worth discussing i think that's an important thing to know maybe that's what we can agree i do agree that it's absolutely something we should . engage in civil discourse over the problem with public policies we can scream and yell and be offended about everything you can be offended one of my best friends is is happens to be a true descendant of pocahontas and she dressed as an indian and she was told that was offensive as an american indian well that's her culture she didn't mean it offensively i think that we've taken it a bit too far in some cases and i think that we can spend our time more constructively on things that that really do matter you know we have a jobs report out today that is the best ever we have unparalleled equality in our
things and so i think it's important to have these conversations to say no it's not ok to dress up in blackface given the history of lynchings and the history of using black faces as a way to humiliate and to press those who are first and slaves and then terrorized to jim crow it is not ok to make jokes about rape given the. prevalence. i do not think it's worth discussing i think that's an important thing to know maybe that's what we can agree i do agree that it's absolutely something we...
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blackface is a big deal when black people are being murdered because of our skin color. >> people whoing and creating these looks aren't getting the same monetary advantages and getting modeling opportunities and things like that. >> reporter: but emma denies the accusation, saying this was never her intention and that her looks are natural. >> i haven't done anything to make myself look darker. i get the tan naturally when i've been in the sun. whenever somebody has asked me, i've always answered that i'm white because i've never seen myself as anything else. >> reporter: the left picture was taken two years ago right before summer with barely any makeup and my hair straightened. she's not the first insta celeb to come under fire. last year jaden apologized for perpetuating a culture of appropriation after posting this photo of herself online accused of wearing blackface after appearing visibly darker in photographs. >> the internet that is, you know, wonderful and diverse and great, but is also part of the wider world where race and socialization and culture and all these things mat
blackface is a big deal when black people are being murdered because of our skin color. >> people whoing and creating these looks aren't getting the same monetary advantages and getting modeling opportunities and things like that. >> reporter: but emma denies the accusation, saying this was never her intention and that her looks are natural. >> i haven't done anything to make myself look darker. i get the tan naturally when i've been in the sun. whenever somebody has asked me,...
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. >> her show was cancelled after those remarks she made about blackface.are rising as both sides square off against her exit. here is abc's eva pilgrim. >> hello, everyone. >> reporter: just days ago, nbc axed her talk show. now megyn kelly is fighting back after reports she was demanding millions to stay quiet. her attorney blasting the network for not refuting what he called false media reports that she asked for the more than $34 million left on her contract. kelly's show cancelled after she shared her views on blackface. >> what is racist? you do get in trouble if you are a white person putting on a black face. or a black person who puts on white it is face for halloween. back when i was a kid, that was okay as long as you were dressing up as like a character. >> reporter: her "today" co-host quickly speaking out. >> while she apologized to the staff, she owes a bigger apology to folks of color around the country. >> reporter: and now a group of high school students from kelly's old school are calling her out in an op-ed published by nbc news. we weren
. >> her show was cancelled after those remarks she made about blackface.are rising as both sides square off against her exit. here is abc's eva pilgrim. >> hello, everyone. >> reporter: just days ago, nbc axed her talk show. now megyn kelly is fighting back after reports she was demanding millions to stay quiet. her attorney blasting the network for not refuting what he called false media reports that she asked for the more than $34 million left on her contract. kelly's show...
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blackface is a big deal when black people are out here being murdered because of our skin color. >> ifs a racist legacy in worldwide and in american history, she should listen to that. >> reporter: the 19-year-old denies it saying, this was never her intention and her looks are natural. >> i cannot change the way i was born because the things i've been accused of and the things people are mad about are things that are natural on me like my hair, my lips, my nose, my face. i've never claimed to be black or biracial or anything else than white. >> reporter: she's not the first insta-celeb to come under fire. last year, this woman apologized after posting this photo of herself online accused of wearing blackface after appearing visibly darker in photographs. cultural appropriation has become a divisive topic with celebrities from kim kardashian to coldplay at times accused of insensitively borrowing from other cultures but the power of bronzer has people upset. >> rightfully so. wow. i don't know what to say. >> lots to say but will remain in that -- >> the pictures tell the whole story,
blackface is a big deal when black people are out here being murdered because of our skin color. >> ifs a racist legacy in worldwide and in american history, she should listen to that. >> reporter: the 19-year-old denies it saying, this was never her intention and her looks are natural. >> i cannot change the way i was born because the things i've been accused of and the things people are mad about are things that are natural on me like my hair, my lips, my nose, my face. i've...
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person in the picture. [ laughter ] [ applause ] a nurse in missouri was fired this weeafter she used blackfaceo dress up as beyonÉe for halloween. saider boss, everything you own in a box to the left. [ laughter ] according to a new study, 60% of relationships survive long "why are you telling me this?" trump asked lania. [ laughter ] and finally, this is really exciting you guys, thanks to newly developed technology, we here at thate night" now have the ability to recortiny voice that is inside donald trump's head. and you might be surprised to know that, like everyone's inner voice, donald trump's is filled with paralyzing fear and so here it is, "the tiny voice in the back of donald trump's head." ♪>> ey, donald it's the tiny voice in the back of your head. and we're about to face a problem because this umbrella is door of this room. [ laughter ]i anow that if you put your mind to it, you will come up with a solution that is esidential, and not embarrassing. so here we go. p use that braer. what are you going to do? are you [ bleep ] kidding me? [ laughter and applause ] you're just going t
person in the picture. [ laughter ] [ applause ] a nurse in missouri was fired this weeafter she used blackfaceo dress up as beyonÉe for halloween. saider boss, everything you own in a box to the left. [ laughter ] according to a new study, 60% of relationships survive long "why are you telling me this?" trump asked lania. [ laughter ] and finally, this is really exciting you guys, thanks to newly developed technology, we here at thate night" now have the ability to recortiny...
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aretha franklin because, having carson's name is synonymous with having trump's name on our school in blackfaceaid off. that's a pulitzer prize-winning journalist, and be careful of this, blank show. the country is collapsing in the readings are great. >> good to be here tonight. >> so my folks here put the show together put together a packet of incredible statistics about the drinking water in detroit schools being despicable. about some of the kids in the ben carson school. 8% of the students at the school of science and medicine are proficient in math. 8%. this is a national crisis, and we are talking about renaming the school instead of teaching these kids. >> what about hello america, and hello st. louis? that's another one of those things that frustrates us all because again, you will rename it because you don't like the guy. so here's the funny thing. the school board has decided that they will go through a process that hasn't been done. they are renaming schools that don't reflect the community or its history. so why in the world are they also considering renaming frederick douglass a a
aretha franklin because, having carson's name is synonymous with having trump's name on our school in blackfaceaid off. that's a pulitzer prize-winning journalist, and be careful of this, blank show. the country is collapsing in the readings are great. >> good to be here tonight. >> so my folks here put the show together put together a packet of incredible statistics about the drinking water in detroit schools being despicable. about some of the kids in the ben carson school. 8% of...
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showing two people wearing k-k-k hoods, and a third person in blackface.... now the commmunity is outraged... and school officials are investigating after finding out these teenagers are army recruits... that's coming up new tonight at nine.... proposition 11 solves two issues. first, it continues to pay paramedics while we're on break. second, it ensures the closest ambulance can respond if you call 9-1-1. vote yes on 11. proposition 11 "a common sense solution" to protect public safety. it ensures the closest ambulance remains on-call during paid breaks "so that they can respond immediately when needed." vote yes on 11. (grant) 4 your money tonight... apple plans to stop disclosing the number of iphones, ipads and macs it sells each quarter.(pam) executives explained the move in a conference call thursday .... shocking analysts ... and adding to jitters around a mixed earnings report. one investor believes, apple is trying to make up for slowing sales growth -- by charging more for its devices. in the last quarter, apple sold about 47- million i-phones -- r
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meghan kellyy megyn kelly's- after her show was canceled last week after making a comment about blackface. her attorney accuses nbc about making false reports about excessive demands. nbc issued its own comment essentially saying, no comment. >>> canada's legal recreation cannabis market is going up in smoke. supply shortages are widespread ever since the national pot marketplace launched a few weeks ago. this week quebec closed its government-run shops because there was no pot to sell. the online store also having problems fulfilling orders. the government will add 300 employees to try to quickly process licenses for producers to increase their supply. >>> got some new video from paris, france, showing the world's largest event. it's all dedicated to chocolate. >> the salon de chocolat fair opened with fashion models wearing nothing but clothes covered in chocolate. 60 countries take part in that fair. that event runs until november 4th. >> those models can't get too hot. it will melt off them. a little dangerous there. >>> it's 6:25 right now. a lot more news coming up on "today in the
meghan kellyy megyn kelly's- after her show was canceled last week after making a comment about blackface. her attorney accuses nbc about making false reports about excessive demands. nbc issued its own comment essentially saying, no comment. >>> canada's legal recreation cannabis market is going up in smoke. supply shortages are widespread ever since the national pot marketplace launched a few weeks ago. this week quebec closed its government-run shops because there was no pot to...
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altering is all about black pete a st nicholas character that's often portrayed by white people wearing blackface the baits in the netherlands has become extremely divisive in recent years more activists are now setting out to protest against the count to which they say promotes racist stereotypes they see black pete as a prime example of how racism and traces of slavery a still present in dutch culture today supporters say it's an innocent traditional children's karratha auguring that getting rid of it would be equal to selling out dutch identity now this is what some people in the netherlands have to say about the controversy. like it's a racist tradition here in the netherlands. like face paint i believe skin color is not a question especially not if you look at our violent history of enslaving oppressing black people here in the netherlands needs to change because you use racist when i was small i grew up with the story of black people shipping you off to spain who put you in a bank and shipped off to spain if you've been on so the mark b. debate is one that i think is very important and very
altering is all about black pete a st nicholas character that's often portrayed by white people wearing blackface the baits in the netherlands has become extremely divisive in recent years more activists are now setting out to protest against the count to which they say promotes racist stereotypes they see black pete as a prime example of how racism and traces of slavery a still present in dutch culture today supporters say it's an innocent traditional children's karratha auguring that getting...
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it is such a shame saying that we don't need another blackface running for president. that is such a shame. after our civil war, the civil rights movement, and president elections,ng two that is disgusting. we disagree. election,e 2020 bernie sanders should run and be the nominee. if not him, someone as progressive as bernie sanders. i say no to moderates. there is no war authorization, so no to moderates. aggressive's only for democrats. progressives only for democrats. host: one of those people who has been called a progressive, senator from california kamala harris. here is what she has had to say. [video clip] the leading cause of bankruptcy in our country is the inability to pay a hospital bill. that is worth fighting for, economic justice. let's talk about another economic justice issue worth fighting for. can you pay the rent? we have had great songs about that. that rent needs to get paid. county's in the united states, if you are a worker working , you cannot afford market rate for a one-bedroom apartment. proposes is that if you are paying over 30% of your in
it is such a shame saying that we don't need another blackface running for president. that is such a shame. after our civil war, the civil rights movement, and president elections,ng two that is disgusting. we disagree. election,e 2020 bernie sanders should run and be the nominee. if not him, someone as progressive as bernie sanders. i say no to moderates. there is no war authorization, so no to moderates. aggressive's only for democrats. progressives only for democrats. host: one of those...