i suspect if you bring a blackhole into the sun you will create that space but also turn off the sun. the sun to emerge in between us and the sun. >> put it between us and the sun. >> it would be easier to move the earth further out. >> we are creating the space -- >> creating space when you move the earth out. >> how far in the future do you put something like that? >> the number is well known and i don't remember it comes something like tens of billions of years. the sun has been around for 5 billion years and so far, changing very slowly but that is expected to happen as the fuel is burned up in the sun, then the heat, gets weaker, the inner part of the some collapses. the outer part comes out so there will be an outer core of the sun but the surface of the sun is what we have to deal with. >> going back to now. the idea of "now: the physics of time" comes from time and space equally being created. >> i would say the amount of time goes up locally when we create more space locally. the recent time flows of the universe is because the universe is expanding. that is called the hubble