>> because we also have a variety of people representing their commission whether it was sue blackman, this evening, representing the library commission. >> and part of what i am asking is whether the complainant and in turn with sunshine task force, as the people who initiate and then refer to the case to us, whether they have the not the responsibility but the authority to frame who the respondent is. and there are differences. it is not just the technicality, there are differences in both the standard and the consequences with which we find it. and so i think that it is, this is not, you know, misspelling of somebody's name, it is a different player and while, the agency can always, and there are some legal issues here, what is a commission? and who speaks for a commission in what way, that i don't have the information before me to what we have assess $what i know is that the library users association which can't act except by some individual or individuals, you know, making it a type of document or file a complaint or alleging that an organization did something. and that organizat

thank you, miss blackman. >> five minutes, for rebuttal. >> people those these things around loosely saying that the library commission has adopted this new policy is untrue. they had a discussion, several years ago where the discussion was that we have a 150 word thing and it is included in your packet a legal memo, it is not a legal memo and does not meet the clarifications or requirements of what is considered a legal opinion, it is simply someone sat down and wrote a little paragraph and all that he did was quote the good government guide. and yet, they tried to represent that as a legal opinion when there is no law included in it at all. now, they come here and try to represent the fact that they had changed their policy, when the only policy that they have ever discussed was can we keep these an addendum and the city library saying that the city attorney says that we can. >> basically the city librarian is violating their own established policy in disregarding it. and if they can do that, what would keep them from simply 6 months from now, saying that we are not going to put th

blackman good to have you on. the democratic ad is racist and offensive to muslims? new ads. more bombshell allegations about the federal government spying on americans. we're going to have a special report coming up. >> laura: in the impact segment tonight. democratic congressman jim mcdermott is upset over this fbi ad shows the mugshot of international terrorists. he says the poster is racist and offensive to muslims. we will deeted bait that in a second. what's clearly offensive is what defense secretary chuck hagel said this week that the university of nebraska at omaha. >> okay. so who has a way up in the back there? you are not a member of the taliban, are you? >> mr. secretary, i'm robin grande, an assistant professor at uno. >> laura: whoops? that professor was of indian dissent. joining us from dallas the president of the america together foundation. so, mr. gowts, why has this the there not been any outrage about secretary hagel's remark there? that was pretty interesting. >> it should have. and by the way i'm an indian too and it was very offensive remark as if he

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being entrenched upon but we are basically going into the jim crow style where it's okay to shoot a blackman because he happens to be walking on the street. and this should be a call to action. this should be a call for everybody to say wait a minute. wait a minute. we need a new civil rights movement in this country, point blank, period. now, if it goes the other way and this guy goes down, there % should also be a call to action. why? america? why should there be a call to action? because we all understand that this stand your ground law is a law that's pretty much made for, you know, people like george zimmerman to go around and shoot people. and shoot african-americans. this is not the first time they have used the stand your ground law to defend their, you know, why i should have a gun and why i am allowed to shoot urban youth because of it. it's wrong. either way, this should be a civil rights call. we cannot just be -- we can't be a reactive movement every time something like this goes down or every time they try to infringe upon our voting rights. we have got to be a constant active

blackman is recognized. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, mr. werfel for being here.and helping us to work through the situation. i want to start by saying that the very basis of any relationship is trust. and we certainly see here that the trust has been broken. there's no doubt about that. i think prior to all of this being revealed over the last several months here if you would have asked someone what kind of reaction do you have if you get a letter from the irs. they would have already said i have fear, say that are powerful, even if i haven't done something intentionally they're going come down on me. it's not an organization that is going help you work on something if you done it properly. a lot of uncertainty. there was already this image of the irs with people prior to this, and i think that this is all just confirmed. what their feelings were. there was a distrust and a fear. and restoring this trust will be difficult. i want to go back and chronicle a couple of things that have been said here. i'm going add one to it. obviously we're here for the targeting i