host: let's go to sean in blacksburg, new york. democrat. caller: hello. i just want clarification. i'm not really democrat, i am republican. more independent. clarification. you mentioned the law that he passed before he left the last time, basically made it sound as though he would fire people who were not loyal to him. as i understand it, it would give the ability to fire a federal employee that was not doing the job. guest: so, the executive order, he would apply the new firing capacity to any federal employee who worked in a policy position. it was loosely defined and there was concern that this could be applied on an extremely widespread basis. what i was referring to is what the administration actually talked about, which was, we have federal employees who are entrenched in these agencies and they are standing in the way of the president accomplishing his goals.when i talk about loyalty, what i mean is that they view much of the federal workforce as adversarial to what they are trying to accomplish, and anyone who stands in their way, this will make it easy to get rid of them

back to north carolina but let's not forget that virginia, especially salem, is half an hour from blacksburg, west virginia a state with a super active senate race in which donald trump has endorsed a candidate but that's an area where he expects to do well and in these moments, sometimes what they're looking for is a lot of media attention, which we're talking about it, so he's going to get that, but also being in close proximity to a state that supports him as well as one that he's trying to campaign heavily that battleground of north carolina, that gives donald trump the ability of the appearance of a really big rally thats what he's trying to do, show an appearance. >> he's bookending this we trips to north carolina. he has four events in north carolina in three days. looking ahead, reese, harris has her event this georgia today. early voting ended last night. more than 4 million people have cast their ballots, in-person early or absentee. what's the message from inside the harris campaign? >> they're confident about georgia and if she doesn't hold a blue wall, if she losses pennsylvania

host: let's go to sean in blacksburg, new york. democrat. caller: hello. i just want clarification. really democrat, i am republican. more independent. clarification. you mentioned the law that he passed before he left the last time, basically made it sound as though he would fire people who were not loyal to him. as i understand it, it would give the ability to fire a federal employee that was not doing the job. guest: so, the executive order, he would apply the new firing capacity to any federal employee who worked in a policy position. it was loosely defined and there was concern that this could be applied on an extremely widespread basis. what i was referring to is what the administration actually talked about, which was, we have federal employees who are entrenched in these agencies and they are standing in the way of the president accomplishing his goals.when i talk about loyalty, what i mean is that they view much of the federal workforce as adversarial to what they are trying to accomplish, and anyone who stands in their way, this will make it easy to get rid of them. host: