blackwater is behind everything, even though it's not. in the minds of many pakistanis, it really is the center of the secret conspiracy. so when you had to read davis episode cover raymond davis had worked for blackwater, so it was like the environment for the conspiracies you have a former military officer, former blackwater employee working for the cia caught having killed two on the streets of lahore, so blackwater raymond davis, i attended a rally last summer in islamabad led by the head of lashkar-e-taiba and he was trying to answer something that happened were a number of pakistani troops were killed. the suspicion was that it was his people who killed the pakistani troops and rally pictured by saying it wasn't me. this blackwater and raymond davis and the crowd went crazy. those are the terms that really focus people's mind and pakistan. >> host: first call were mark trained to come through jay louisville, kentucky. >> caller: yes, my belief is after sit number 11 come in here for a help and cooperation. so it's my belief that the

call it digital blackwater."n fact, tim shorrock, explain who exactly called it digital blackwater. >> this was said by michael v. hayden, fees to be the director of the nsa and was the director of the nsa when president bush began the warrantless surveillance program back in 2001 right after 9/11. he has moved on from intelligence agencies to become an executive with chertoff group, a large consulting company in washington, that works very closely with intelligence agencies and corporations advising them on cyber security and advising them on basically security issues. he has cast himself in and making lots of money himself in this industry. >> let's go to the former nsa and say director michael hayden who you say oversaw much of the privatization of the nsa from 1999 to 2005. this is him speaking in 2011. >> we may come to a point where defense is more actively and aggressively to find even for the private sector and what is permitted there is something we would never let the private sector do in physical space

my gateway into this story was through my work on blackwater, the mercenary company.ctually came across blackwater for the first time not in iraq or afghanistan but in new orleans in the aftermath of katrina. i saw these big mercenaries running around and i was rolling around with them and i was obsessed with this world where you have this shadowy kingpin who is a personal friend of dick cheney and these guys are profiting from the personal gulf to the u.s. gulf. they created baghdad on the bayou. they made 70 plus million dollars just not to mention iraq and afghanistan. i met guys who were former navy seals who were working with blackwater and they would tell me stories about these operations they were running. when i started investing this i had never heard of jay sock. we were investigating night raids and we came across this raid where a pregnant woman had been killed in a botch raid where the u.s. soldiers thought they were taking down a taliban stronghold but were given bad info. and they would not admit--afghans will feed bad intelligence to try to settle scor

his first was blackwater. , explores dirty wars with united states is doing around the world. the book and the double dvd -- skahillvd is jeremy on democracy now! for two days. and then we will play an expert of his address right now. we also set with noam chomsky for a moderated conversation. you get all that in a double dvd. the author of the new york times bestseller and this book, debuted as a new york times bestseller, number five on the bestseller list, texas inside america's new covert wars. the foot soldiers in these battles operate globally and inside the united states with orders from the white house to do whatever is necessary to hunt down, capture, and kill and the jewels. it is a remarkable book the consequences of the declaration that the world is a battlefield. as jeremy scahill uncovers these most important foreign- policy story of all time, he reports from the front lines in this high-stakes investigation, explores the depth of america's global killing machine. he goes beneath the service of these covert wars, conducted in the shuttles -- shadows, based on unp

at a time when blackwater was under intense scrutiny from the central government.off with it put me in touch with a source that had access to information about the movements of eric prince and his family. i ended up breaking a story about this. "the new york times" confirmed it a number of weeks later, in fact, eric prince was leaving the united states. i received a call from someone doing a biography of bradley manning some months after this. it was after manning had already been arrested. he said, i'm talking to people who have been in touch with bradley manning. i said, i don't know what you're talking about. i've never been in touch with bradley manning. he ask me to search my e-mail for a particular e-mail address. i went back and found this lengthy, thoughtful e-mail from bradley manning. it was just before the collateral murder video was posted by wikileaks of u.s. forces opening fire on the reuters media workers and civilians in iraq and sparked this whole story. the interaction i had with bradley manning was initially as someone who had given me a tip abou

at the end the falutin massacre which was done in retaliation for the killing of four blackwater mercenaries. was a civilians who were targeted u.s. soldiers went house to house and took him out and shot them they shot families crossing the river helicopters and snipers shot people there were no numbers hundreds of people were killed in collusion. then the force. of the law is the prison camp at the united states maintains at one time tomorrow and the fifth example of lawbreaking by the bush administration was the illegal spying program surveillance program spying on americans conversations and then a data mining program very much like we've heard about lately from edward snowden and then finally the refusal to fulfill the law when congress would pass a law for a quick large w. bush would sign a law and then attach what we call a signing statement saying yes i'm signing this law but i am only going to follow the parts of it that i agree with and the president cannot make the law under the u.s. constitution that's up to congress. more when obama loans than sell stuff rico lawyers will flow fo

only the government or i don't care if you love this president, but do we trust booz allen and blackwater and other companies you've only heard of, that only care about profits. i'm not saying that makes them bad. i'm saying their priorities are money, not you, not me, not our security or privacy. money is their bottom line. they're really bad at other things when they have to balance other values against their profits. >> i think that's the point we're going to work on getting peter and david back for you. more ahead after a little break. i want to make things more secure. [ whirring ] [ dog barks ] i want to treat more dogs. ♪ our business needs more cases. [ male announcer ] where do you want to take your business? i need help selling art. [ male announcer ] from broadband to web hosting to mobile apps, small business solutions from at&t have the security you need to get you there. call us. we can show you how at&t solutions can help you do what you do... even better. ♪ here's one story. my name is taho and i'm a fish guy. it's a labor of love. it's a lot of labor and it's a lot of lov

how about a digital blackwater?e have privatized certain defense activities even in physical space, and now you have a new domain in which we don't have any paths trampled down in the forest in terms of what it is expected government or allow the government to do. in the past in history when that has happened, the private sector expands to fill the empty space. i am not quite an advocate for that. but these are the kinds of things that will be put into play here very quickly. >> that was the former nsa and say director general michael hayden, talking about digital blackwater. mcconnell is not top guy. -- is now top guy. >> a lot of government agencies hire people from the public sector and vice versa. defcon, the hacker convention every year, you'll see a lot of government officials there. they rely on individuals with technological expertise. they really need each other. i think one of the dangers is private sector can operate with impunity in terms of skirting the constitution. the government meets that. it is hel

government to invade its legal obligations blackwater ring a bell to anyone but it doesn't same amount of private contractors isn't disturbing enough according to government accountability office the pentagon can't even track what they're actually doing there so let me get this straight there's almost twice as many contractors as troops no one knows what the hell they're even doing and people wonder where our tax dollars are going this blows your mind to join me and let's break that said.

he is the best selling author of blackwater and twice won the coveted award for reporting and the national security correspondent for the nation magazine. he is also a bright teen fellow from afghanistan and iraq and somalia and the former yugoslavia and the screenwriter and voice of the word winning documentary "dirty wars" the world is a battlefield" which comes out in philadelphia on june june 21st and anticipation we will run the trailer of the event right now. and i mean movie. [laughter] >> i got a strange phone call someone wasn't reaching out close to the heart of the in the force spee there are hundreds of covert operations. multiple causes. >> it is hard to say when the story began. this was supposed to be the front line of the war on tear. but i knew i was missing the story. there was another war hidden in the shadows. a nightmare. >> the two men in the guest house were the first people killed? use of u.s. forces take the bullets out of the bodies? who were these men that stormed in and why would they go to horrifying links to cover up their actions? how would takeover unit take

for the dad of course you can't get a job you want to get you got to get a job or a mercenary for blackwater got a good job percivale and got a good job with a police state got a good job spying on your parents spying on your kid spying on your so to make the payments of the interest rate on the student loan has been trampled thanks to the rothschilds bunch of palms and. so right now as i said the interest rate on these student loans seems forty billion pounds about student outstanding student loans is capped so ros childs bank says that this is a deterrent to private investors because obviously the coalition government with the sell off this entire forty billion pounds to the pension funds he said in order to sell as much of the loan book as possible the financier is advise that the government underwrite the risk with a financial instrument called a synthetic heads in effect using the public finances to guarantee returns to private investment. while the government or triple the interest of the kids on the student loans and they want the government to guarantee in case anything goes wrong by

government to invade its legal obligations blackwater ring a bell to anyone but this insane amount of private contractors isn't disturbing enough according to the government accountability office the pentagon can't even track what they're actually doing there so let me get this straight there's almost twice as many contractors us troops no one knows what the hell they're even doing and people wonder where our tax dollars are going this blows your mind to. join me and let's break that said. because of the secrecy surrounding the government's killer drone program it's nearly impossible to report on exactly those who've fallen victim to it however for the first time earlier this year senator lindsey graham disclosed that forty seven hundred people have been killed thus far by u.s. drones although graham allege this number includes only terrorists the american public has never been presented with evidence to back that claim up yet sixty five percent of u.s. citizens continue to support the use of drones to fight terrorism according to latest gallup poll one reason for this level of suppor

his best selling book, "blackwater" helped expose the industry of military contractors and led black to change its name. now he turned his attention to how current wars are off the books and asked is fighting dirty the new normal. the new nbc news wall street journal finds a strong majority of americans continue to support the drone program. joining us is investigative journalist and producer and subject of this award winning documentary "dirty war" jeremy scahill. it opens this friday. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> let's talk about somalia and other countries. outside of afghanistan and iraq, how many other countries do we have these operations going in and what are the wars if not authorized. >> i think they are happening in several dozen countries. there are special forces deployed in 75 to a hundred countries around the world on any given day. a lot of what they are doing is working with other countries, training exercises, and cases that i think are important for us to focus is is when they are involved with kinetic operations. and unilateral operations. when they a

that's all that's important to me. [ applause ] >> the whole privatization thing, blackwater and privatetive to arrest people for whatever reason. >> stephanie: when we come back -- >> and you can't vote for the heads of the corporations. >> stephanie: right on the tail of the kudos to jim e-mail, i have a topic that is going to make jim's head explode. [ explosion ] 18 minutes after the hour. right back with all of that on "the stephanie miller show." >> holy cow! you just blew my mind! >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." current tv is the place for true stories. with award winning documentaries that take you inside the headlines. real, gripping, current. documentaries... on current tv. ♪ midday between the loudspeakers ♪ ♪ one, two, three four ♪ >> stephanie: it is "the stephanie miller show." yeah. pardon me. >> you okay? >> stephanie: can i talk now? 23 minutes. >> stephanie: hang on. ♪ rock the house ♪ >> rock the house y'all. >> stephanie: good to go. this hour brought to you by carbonite. i've been reminding you how important it is to back up your computer files with c

his first was blackwater. , explores dirty wars with united states is doing around the world.book and the double dvd -- of the dvd is jeremy

but you're right about blackwater and i started to meet guys who were operators in jsoc. s.e.a.l.s or former s.e.a.l.s. delta force guys and instead of being a jerk and saying i'm against the war. i would say, you want to get a beer? >> that's always a good strategy. >> i started to get those units. i knew because i had been covering wars for over a decade, that's all i've done in my adult life. i knew about special operations forces, i didn't know the nuance of who jsoc was until i started investigating night raids and came upon a story where a team of commandos had raided a house where they thought ied manufacturing was going on. the americans had bad intelligence, they ended up killing three women, two of whom were pregnant and a senior afghan police commander who had spent his entire career fighting against the taliban and instead of sorting owning it we got fed bad intelligence, they dug the bullets out of the women's bodies and told their commanding officers that he had stumbled upon an honor killing. the world wouldn't have known about this but for admiral william

our national security correspondent wrote a book called "blackwater" which was a prominent force not only in iraq but new orleans. 70% of the intelligence budget in the world today goes to private contractors. how does one oversee a booz allen hamilton which makes $56 billion a year off of its contracts with the government. >> nearly 100%. >> it speaks to bob herbert's point. you could have corporate espionage, you could have selling of secrets. i think that we need to have a serious debate in this country about what size national security apparatus we need and why is it that this is a global war without end, without boundaries. it is interesting that president obama is in ireland. ireland lived -- the uk and ireland lived with terrorism for years. they found a way through political negotiation, intelligence and tough policing. not endless war. and by the way, the danger is in war, what happens in war? you lose the very principles that you claim to uphold in that battle against forces. >> i want to bring up this dick cheney comparison. people are going to say suddenly obama has becom

lobbying for more laws it lets you know longer sentences and horrible prisoners then as we saw it with blackwater you know there's a woman who is horribly raped and used in and these things just don't have as much oversight when. you. a government or somebody who's been sworn into this system when it's somebody who signed a contract it's much harder to have the oversight on so he doesn't this pretty much demonstrates the. fraud is too strong a word but also the weakness of libertarian argument that there's nothing government can or should do other than maybe have the police that really there are government functions that should be appropriately done in ways that are responsive to we the people well i think in this situation if you look at the contractors you know if they mess up if they do their job wrong they get fired for it but you look at the government employees and you know they're more likely to die as a government employee than to ever get fired for doing something wrong so you're suggesting that because government employees are unionized and contractors or not it's better to have contrac

i was at a hearing in which erik prince, the ceo of .lackwater, testified blackwater edits i did 90%business with the federal government, and yet prince when not tell us what he made -- he said, "north of $1 million, but i will not tell you what that is." his company did almost nothing but federal government work -- and he was taking perhaps four times that of a four-star general. it was unconscionable to me. i passed a law that president bush signed that would require contractors that did 80% or more of the business with the military to disclose how much profit they make and the salaries of their top executives. that law is just becoming operative now. it will hopefully give us a little bit more information about the degree to which taxpayer money is not going to fund intelligence efforts or the battlefield, but instead padding the pockets of defense contracts. this has always been a problem in this country. it is what eisenhower warned us against. but it is a bigger problem, as you said, today than ever before. regardless of whether the companies are in your district, the united st

that would be horrible if somebody let a company like halliburton or blackwater get involved in somelso something that deserves discussion is the use of private government contractors for surveillance. you know. i think even some members of congress are saying yeah, maybe we need people that take an oath of office to protect the constitution, to be in charge of this. not just -- not just in the sense of the whistle-blowers -- and then -- i think i said this last week. if the intelligence organizations that vetted snowden didn't figure out he was this sociopath or there was some writer this week that said you know, if you take away his girlfriend, he's just like -- he has the profile of a mass shooter. >> what? >> yeah. jonathan roush was the writer who said that on twitter. i thought wow! that means our intelligence agencies suck! if they can't figure out they're hiring a mass shooter. >> stephanie: right. well,ives going to say rude, going back to your question earlier, i think they did release enough about the new york subway thing that does seem like this program had something to

that we can privatize armies, halliburton, blackwater and our security.ho thought of that? >> hal: right. >> caller: that's the last thing that should be privatized. whether it is the pennsylvania turnpike or your local nursing home i'm -- that's where the greed is. >> hal: voting machines. there's a lot of this stuff -- there was this big move to -- this mythology that's -- that i blame the dmv for. that somehow you know, we've all got this idea the dmv is awful and that's an indicative part of government. therefore, i don't want what happens at the dmv to happen in regard to national security and voting machines. we're going to go to a real computer company and they're going to create our voting electronic voting machines. but because of proprietary legal rights. they don't have to tell us how the machines are run. who knows how to get into the software. who has access to that software. whether or not they have a financial interest in one of the parties getting in versus the other. that becomes really, really concerning. part of that small government pu