as journalists we knew who blackwater was let us know they were not soldiers they were blackwater if there were there are literally i'm sorry there was hundreds and hundreds of companies employing u.s. nato and other country veterans difference between the between blackwater and nato i'm sorry by saying i don't think you're that sharp that you can tell the difference between a polish guy a french guy or you need a yard and sharp to tell the difference well thank you i've always wanted i did. you know as ordinary retract if you're going to agree before this gets out i would carry on with that i'd carry on with your audience will go to the debate with a tie in the suit. so i've got to be in war since i was in one fighting 20 international terrorist groups since 2014 the afghan national security forces have been doing this by themselves so how do you justify that you'll get a contract and go and do the war in afghanistan given that you're making money out of this business and you don't ever want to conclude this business there and one point please do us a favor and have a bold line betw

and now to discuss the push to militarize the response to the murder of george floyd blackwater's matter protests as well as the move. to spy on protesters a senior fellow at the center for international policy at the u.s. marine corps veteran of the 2nd iraq war matthew old thank you so much for coming on out there. thank you for having me on matthew was a military veteran of the 2nd iraq war which after the initial invasion was really a war of military occupation and policing what makes president trumps push for a militarized response to these protests so dangerous for the american people. well you know. the answer that question is how quickly things can escalate. particularly as you have a number of what overseas we'll call sext you know sectarian groups we have those here in the u.s. and you've seen in a number of cities these self described patriots these militias that are coming out to support the police. we in that's what they're where the danger to me really lies in how quickly this could escalate where these patriots or someone you know maybe from you know there are there are gr

have the united arab emirates who are deployed f. 16 of the fluid alongside erik prince formerly a blackwater arsenal of chinese firms that are almost a copycat of the americans for the heroes there who really lose that deploy them but recently in the last 6 years you also have russia which is as the reporter correctly pointed out has the police militia 14 at least 14 jensen and and a higher than a sort of injured or who are at barons of russian medicine is that it is a ploy to the streets of tripoli you know with their capture on behalf of don't you also have as i said what are your how transparent you're going interchangeably diplomatic immunity all of the actors that really the u.a.e. have been willing to give him the ways and means to sustain the advance of the lever and when that will so really have a an interesting mix on its own just just briefly. what's your sense of where this conflict is headed next. this is the most and belittling and least this trip to libya everything that happens in the inches literally did inches of major geostrategic consequences one of the leaders of the erbi