this is way deeper than people are trying to make it seem and everyone wanted to blaine trump and i am by far not a trump fan -- to blame trump, and i am not a trump fan. this is bigger than him. this is not an accident. this is not a perfect storm. host: governor, go ahead. guest: the questions you raised, the questions are questions that have to be raised. that is why we have to have an investigation. one that peopled -- one that people have faith in. hopefully we will make recommendations to make sure it never happens again. host: holland, michigan. this is ryan. caller: high, -- hi, thank you for having me on. thank you for your work, thank you for is a standard i have a degree in economics, but i am familiar with the events of 9/11. i do not appreciate the report that you guys put out. there is a book called 911, -- 9/11 commission, commissions and distortions. among the chief ones is you do not explain how the building itself -- the commission stopped its reporting at the initiation of collapse. host: as far as the question for commission being looked at for the january 6, do you

this is way deeper than people are trying to make it seem and everyone wanted to blaine trump and i amy far not a trump fan -- to blame trump, and i am not a trump fan. this is bigger than him. this is not an accident. this is not a perfect storm. host: governor, go ahead. guest: the questions you raised, the questions are questions that have to be raised. that is why we have to have an investigation. one that peopled -- one that people have faith in. hopefully we will make recommendations to make sure it never happens again. host: holland, michigan. this is ryan. caller: high, -- hi, thank you for having me on. thank you for your work, thank you for is a standard i have a degree in economics, but i am familiar with the events of 9/11. i do not appreciate the report that you guys put out. there is a book called 911, -- 9/11 commission, commissions and distortions. among the chief ones is you do not explain how the building itself -- the commission stopped its reporting at the initiation of collapse. host: as far as the question for commission being looked at for the january 6, do you h

blain not put together the "400 souls." juan: a lot of people are suggesting mere impeachment is not enough for what donald trump did, that heuld be charged with incitement of criminal acts, possibly even sedition. your response to that? >> well, i think, quite frankly, we have to do everything possible to ma sure he does not run for office again, but so to ensure we send a clear message that no future presidents can do a donald trump did. so certainly, the impeachment is important and i do think it is important that trump's charge because we really cannot approach this lightly. we cannot hold back and play games here because, ultimately, whatever decision we make in this moment will determine the future of this nation. amy: can you talk, blain, whether we're talking about the crowd, boogaloo bois, qanon, this moment in history, and then go back in time for us because obviously, as you are both just explaining, this is not new, as you so diffidently layout in your book "four hundred souls." >> even as i movement in the united states, it s very deep roots. you can see that quite frankly since the founding of the nation. ihink

people are responding already, that it's likely that donald trump will walk away and not be charged at all. >> all right. professor keisha blainthank you very much for being on this morning. she is coed tore of the new book entitled "four hundred souls" a community history of african-american 1619-2019. and "where law ends" inside the mueller investigation. and jon meacham, thank you as well. he, too, has a lot of books to mention. too many to mention at this point. >> read them all. >> still ahead on "morning joe", president biden avoided weighing in on the second impeachment trial. jonathan lemire spent the day at the white house yesterday and joins us with new reporting. >>> plus, kasie hunt joins the conversation. after sitting in the senate chamber for day 2 of the trial. you're watching "morning joe". we'll be right back. right back. trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high you know how i feel ♪ ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel ♪ [man: coughing] ♪ it's a new dawn, it's a new day... ♪ no matter how you got copd it's time to make a stand. ♪ ...and i'm feelin' good ♪ start a new day with trelegy. no once-daily copd

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