do you do you think tony blair. >> tony blair doing something dodgyin >> tony blair doing something dodgy never. >> tony blair doing something dofairnessie middle east? never. >> tony blair doing something dofairness ,e middle east? never. >> tony blair doing something dofairness , it'sddle east? never. >> tony blair doing something dofairness , it's not�* east? never. >> tony blair doing something dofairness , it's not the ;t? never. >> tony blair doing something dofairness , it's not the worstver. in fairness, it's not the worst thing he's done in the middle east. >> but but yeah, mean , the >> but but yeah, i mean, the tony like the tony blair institute, like the clinton institute , i mean, they clinton institute, i mean, they take these vast sums and generate huge amounts of wealth. i mean, the sums we're talking about, some of the salaries at the blair institute are half £1 million. >> but the trouble is, >> but the trouble is, he's not the only one. america and europe did $140 billion worth of trade with saudi arabia in 2022. and it was things like weapons. it was things like oil. i

do you do you think tony blair. >> tony blair doing something dodgyin >> tony blair doing something dodgy >> tony blair doing something dofairnessie middle east? never. >> tony blair doing something dofairness ,e middle east? never. >> tony blair doing something dofairness , it'sddle east? never. >> tony blair doing something dofairness , it's not�* east? never. >> tony blair doing something dofairness , it's not the ;t? never. >> tony blair doing something dofairness , it's not the worstver. in fairness, it's not the worst thing he's done in the middle east. >> but but yeah, mean , the >> but but yeah, i mean, the tony like the tony blair institute, like the clinton institute , i mean, they clinton institute, i mean, they take these vast sums and generate huge amounts of wealth. i mean, the sums we're talking about, some of the salaries at the blair institute are half £1 million. >> but the trouble is, he's not the only one. america and europe did $140 billion worth of trade with saudi arabia in 2022. and it was things like weapons. it was things like oil. it was things like weapons. it

blair is, of course, a well-known and beloved public voice. you may have seen her on a variety of cable network shows providing commentary. she hosted a podcast before podcasts were even a thing a really great one if you know her back to then it was incredible and she must be like the last truly substantive social media feed. like you can follow her twitter even in elon musk's world and, it is everything from sort of in fact, how initially was following the book were her postings in social media around her archival findings? but then sometimes it's also hashtag cooking. and so it's all of the recipes and the things that she's engaged in so, so much of that actually is is also part of what we talk about a bit tonight. this black folk the roots of the black working. i am lucky enough to have had it for about a week and a half now. so as you can, it's already quite dog eared, written in and annotated. yeah, i thought you'd appreciate that. i've already like love. this text the lyricism of the writing is not like that you have read in a historical

blair kept advising blair institute kept advising saudi after saudi government after khashoggi's .khashoggi's murder. that's a misjudgement from tony blair, isn't it? >> well, you and i and i suspect every viewer watching this programme will have been sickened by the death of mr khashoggi and what we learn about the circumstances behind that. yeah. and as i understand it, and i don't work for the tony blair institute , but the tony blair institute, but the decision was made not to cancel a contract that was in play with the tony blair institute and the saudi government at misjudged, though the saudi government is modernising, that doesn't for one second condone what happened happenedin one second condone what happened happened in turkey with the murder of mr khashoggi. but what you and i know , camilla, you you and i know, camilla, you have to ask yourself, is the rhetoric and a sudden action is easy. so, for example, if the chief constable of northern ireland had resigned, would that have made any difference to protecting police officers today? so if everybody had withdrawn from c

because tony blair likes talking blair. we talking about tony blair.king to keir starmer. now whereas before he wasn't quite sure. >> now he wasn't. he was waiting to see if kirsty armour would actually rebrand and the labour party effectively because it had ed miliband and it had jeremy corbyn and jeremy really corbyn and jeremy corbyn really frightened the horses because yes , because he was going to be yes, because he was going to be every profligate as, as yes, because he was going to be evetruss profligate as, as yes, because he was going to be evetruss planned gate as, as yes, because he was going to be evetruss planned to :e as, as yes, because he was going to be evetruss planned to be.;, as yes, because he was going to be evetruss planned to be. and but liz truss planned to be. and but , but starmer has been very, very steadfast in this and made the point. and so tony's been thinking, yeah, you know , i thinking, yeah, you know, i mean, because look, i mean, the man is he's only 17. he's very active man. i mean 70s coming up for prime, bless hi

just i think there's just on blair, i think there's a huge nervousness labour just on blair, i thinkk there's a huge that they're labour just on blair, i think there's a huge that they're looking abour party that they're looking unassailable right now or the opinion polls putting well opinion polls putting them well ahead on course for victory ahead and on course for victory next there's that next time. but there's that nagging next time. but there's that nagg ori next time. but there's that nagg or over again. you're going 1992 or over again. you're going to that that election late to that into that election late april 1992, april the april 1992, i think april the 12th, april the ninth, something like then a like that. and then there's a sheffield kinnock sheffield rally. neil kinnock gives speech three gives that rousing speech three days all actual days before the we're all actual ballot right. ballot. yeah, we're all right. that nonsense. didn't that kind of nonsense. it didn't play that kind of nonsense. it didn't play public play out well with the public and shot themselves foo

tony blair did not expect. yes. no. that hussein would say yes. nor did president bush expect hussein to say to saddam hussein to say yes. but they acknowledged to one another and their national security advisers talked to one another about this, that if saddam hussein actually did say, yes, if he did cooperate with the new resolution, if he did disclose and or relinquish his alleged weapons of mass destruction, then we would have to live with this regime. but we would never get to know this unless we unless he was threatened with force. whether he would agree or not was up to saddam hussein. and so he could have agreed. he could have been more forthcoming at an earlier moment. hans blix wants. it to be more and ultimately he couldn't give up what he didn't have. ultimately, he couldn't give up what he what he couldn't have. but he could have been much more forthcoming in terms of the bluff cooperation. well, yes. i mean, and that's one of the interesting aspects of this whole episode is that saddam hussein ultimately did not have at this moment i

just i think there's just on blair, i think there's a huge nervousness labour just on blair, i thinkk there's a huge that they're labour just on blair, i think there's a huge that they're looking abour party that they're looking unassailable right now or the opinion polls putting well opinion polls putting them well ahead on course for victory ahead and on course for victory next there's that next time. but there's that nagging next time. but there's that nagg ori next time. but there's that nagg or over again. you're going 1992 or over again. you're going to that that election late to that into that election late april 1992, april the april 1992, i think april the 12th, april the ninth, something like then a like that. and then there's a sheffield kinnock sheffield rally. neil kinnock gives speech three gives that rousing speech three days all actual days before the we're all actual ballot right. ballot. yeah, we're all right. that nonsense. didn't that kind of nonsense. it didn't play that kind of nonsense. it didn't play public play out well with the public and shot themselves foo

i mean, the tony blair massively blair institute is massively powerful and this is such a blair of approachof approach. he's starmer saying it won't work this weaponizing this this weaponizing of the environment because british people drive people overwhelmingly both drive cars and want to tackle climate change and that is probably true. smart true. so it's just smart politics because blair has said the other look , this is why the other day, look, this is why i think blair's involved. he said, got to stop with said, you've got to stop with this, this, you know, ridiculous. stop oil type ridiculous. just stop oil type stuff. he's he's even said , what stuff. he's he's even said, what can britain do to affect can britain really do to affect climate change? he said, we were such a small part of it. china is all stuff. we is doing all this stuff. we should at our financial should look at our financial sector help the sector and help develop the third best thing we third world as the best thing we could it's a more could do. so it's a more realistic approach. it's more realistic approach. it's

gosh, blair was blair was for the 20th century.'re well into the 21st know, we're well into the 21st century now. we need new thinking that and obviously we can draw on wiser older people. >> but, you know, we'd have a guest bedroom in number 10. there'd always be lots of new thinking in number 11. >> that's what the prime minister changes his mind all the >> exactly. >> e we've w— e we've kind of got >> well, what we've kind of got now is people who are sort of shifting wind a lot. shifting with the wind a lot. i mean, you know, i wouldn't say that either rishi sunak or keir starmer have these sort high starmer have these sort of high ideals. them ideals. i mean, the two of them changed position a lot on changed their position a lot on things. and just to back to things. and just to go back to interest rates really briefly. yeah you there are some yeah you know, there are some economic thinking that actually raising interest rates isn't going get inflation down going to get inflation down anyway because most it is anyway because m

i mean, the tony blair massively blair institute is massively powerful and this is such a blair of approach approach. he's starmer saying it won't work this weaponizing this this weaponizing of the environment because british people drive people overwhelmingly both drive cars and want to tackle climate change and that is probably true. smart true. so it's just smart politics because blair has said the other look , this is why the other day, look, this is why i think blair's involved. he said, got to stop with said, you've got to stop with this, this, you know, ridiculous. stop oil type ridiculous. just stop oil type stuff. he's he's even said , what stuff. he's he's even said, what can britain do to affect can britain really do to affect climate change? he said, we were such a small part of it. china is all stuff. we is doing all this stuff. we should at our financial should look at our financial sector help the sector and help develop the third best thing we third world as the best thing we could it's a more could do. so it's a more realistic approach. it's more realistic approach. it's a

>> i mentioned tony blair and let's pick someone else. i actually think i would say alexandria ocasio cortez. if you seen some of her performance on the house floor to use the kids means she does bring the fire. it is really passionate and i'd love passion. what i like most about politicians on the upper left is when they are technocratic and bureaucratic and managerial and she if you seen some of her speeches including your speech, her speech and her speech on the day republicans voted to remove comment from the finance committee was stunning. you watch it and you feel something in that for me is the emotional appeal. that's going to be any kind of technical argument about well you didn't have that in what she came up and terms of and standing up to marginal communities was very powerful. od you on multiple occasions you referenced his most famous book, manufacturing on how the media to manufacture consent for an uninformed american public to get them to vote for candidates who are, i guess, only serve the interest of the elite. so acros

tony blair >> so this is tricky.because institute because the tony blair institute has continued to work with and advise the crown prince and the new and the saudi regime as it currently stands. this does currently stands. now, this does raise questions raise some interesting questions because obviously this is a regime is backward and regime that is very backward and that very regressive , but is that is very regressive, but is in some ways making incremental change is towards being a more progressive society . if so, this progressive society. if so, this kind of thing , political kind of thing, political assassination or whatever it might be if these things are going on, let's face it, there are other human rights abuses going on in saudi arabia. are other human rights abuses going on in saudi arabia . but going on in saudi arabia. but does that mean that until they reach the level that we expect them be shouldn't them to be at, we shouldn't advise parties zip8 interact with ? because doesn't that slow with? becaus

tony blair >> so this is tricky.ng into trouble here because institute because the tony blair institute has continued to work with and advise the crown prince and the new and the saudi regime as it currently stands. this does currently stands. now, this does raise questions raise some interesting questions because obviously this is a regime is backward and regime that is very backward and that very regressive , but is that is very regressive, but is in some ways making incremental change is towards being a more progressive society . if so, this progressive society. if so, this kind of thing , political kind of thing, political assassination or whatever it might be if these things are going on, let's face it, there are other human rights abuses going on in saudi arabia. are other human rights abuses going on in saudi arabia . but going on in saudi arabia. but does that mean that until they reach the level that we expect them be shouldn't them to be at, we shouldn't advise parties zip8 interact with ? because doesn't t

. >> i both loathes them and respect them, tony blair., a pointless interview no disrespect, shooting fish in a barrel. [laughter] tony blair a smart guy and i watched for two decades the great to have one from always slips out and my intentions were good and id would love to go bk and forth withh him with nowhere else to go on the iraq invasion and was most and hold him accountable, no one has really held him accountable. >> tony blair, if you're watching or on twitter, politics and prose i' you're in washington, we are ready to do it right here. [laughter] what is the issue where public opinion is different from your view? >> that is a good question. i guess rightue now, i support defunding police brutality and the polls and american p public, it is a tough choice run away from this argument or they do they don't want to d say it because it is political suicide. >> or worried about crime in the community. [laughter] >> didn't say anything about crime, i said police brutality. >> defunding police departments and you changed the meaning o

me included tony blair, the tony institute being lot. tony blair, the tony rolled by tute being lot. me included tony blair, the tony rolled by us; being lot. me included tony blair, the tony rolled by us techeing lot. me included tony blair, the tony rolled by us tech tycoon bank rolled by us tech tycoon billionaire be billionaire should we be concerned? well, no, mean, it concerned? well, no, i mean, it begs question, what does begs the question, what does a prime minister do she or he prime minister do when she or he ceases be the prime minister? ceases to be the prime minister? >> i mean, can do >> i mean, you can you can do what edward did. i was in what edward heath did. i was in the house with edward heath. he spent day sitting there spent all day sitting there woman, know, just sort woman, you know, and just sort of much better in of moaning about much better in my know, you know, my day, you know, or, you know, you can fade away like some people or you can do, you can be like gordon brown, a prophet crying the wilderness. crying

he doesn't matter for people like him. >> and unfortunately while tony blair might thought he was blairnd doing the right thing and right thing, and wishing the right thing, he's left a generation he's actually left a generation of with debt. of kids with huge debt. >> yes. that's the other point. >> i just think that, you know and know the argument is it's and i know the argument is it's not sort of debt or you not the same sort of debt or you don't have to pay it off if but it is debt. >> and i think, yeah, that's absolutely right. >> people to leave >> young people to leave university with enormous university at 2122 with enormous debt shoulder debt on their shoulder even that's start friendship. >> instead, at least you'll get paid. yeah. so an apprenticeship now is actually a reasonable alternative to university alternative to go to university and bang on about this every and i bang on about this every time comes up with university. >> the least likely >> but the least likely demographic to attend university in the uk are white, working class and they're the ones class boys and the

but i'm now joined by former cabinet minister in the blair government, shaun woodward .n, thank you very much for joining woodward. shaun, thank you very much forjoining me. is there an alternative to the rwanda scheme if you were still in government and you were close to tony blair, what would you have been advising a prime minister to do to solve the illegal migration problem ? problem? >> well, i think the real problem with the rwanda scheme are the challenges that are posed by people actually feeling that it's not a safe country to return people to. >> and speaking as a gay man myself , i >> and speaking as a gay man myself, i really >> and speaking as a gay man myself , i really do >> and speaking as a gay man myself, i really do have >> and speaking as a gay man myself , i really do have worries myself, i really do have worries about what this might mean for people. and i think really when ken was making that speech in the house of lords in support of the house of lords in support of the bill, what he said, we better give it a go because there's nothing else on the

i mean disrespect, but like shooting shooting fish in a barrel tony blair. tony blair is a very smart guy and i've watched him be interviewed on iraq for two decades. and no one really lands a blow. he always he's he's the great teflon tony always slips out of it. always. while my intentions were good. well, the intelligence and i would love to kind of go back forth with him, with him nowhere else to go on the invasion, on the lies that were on the lives that were lost and hold that guy to account because no one's really held him to account 20 years. i mean, i'd watch that tony. blair if you're watching c-span, if you're on twitter. or you're in the we're politics and prose. if you're in washington, we're ready to do it right here. what is the issue? public opinion is starkly different from your point of view. oh, that's a good question, because on most issues i have the people know, i guess right now a contentious one is i support defunding police in this country. and unfortunately, the polls of the american public are not there yet. and it's a tough choice

and a tony blair in disguise?g that the voice of children is being ignored . being ignored. >> one of the charities is going to join us live. i've got some questions for them . questions for them. the tories this morning gb views at gbnews.com is the email address. but first of all, here's tatiana sanchez with your latest . news beth . latest. news beth. >> beth, thank you. good morning. this is the latest from the newsroom. the government is under pressure to explain why there were delays in the removing migrants from the bibby stockholm traces of stockholm after traces of legionella discovered. legionella were discovered. dorset council says home office contractors were told about the bacteria on the day asylum seekers boarded the barge. all 39 people were removed from the vessel on friday, at least three days after concerns were raised. shadow northern ireland secretary peter kyle says the government is focusing on the wrong thing . wrong thing. >> if there is a barge which is being brought to our country and i

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tony blair tony blair did when tony blair tony blair did when tony blair tony blair took over in 1997rs tory spending plans that so you don't disrupt the country too much . keir starmer keir starmer much. keir starmer keir starmer will do the same thing . will do the same thing. >> £1 million from his name is dale. vince, i think. yes. yes who director or associate who is a director or associate at a high level with just stop oil after donation. they oil after that donation. they said they were going to cancel all new licences, which is what just wants. that's just stop oil wants. that's their and as soon he their aim. and as soon as he realised that, as as tony realised that, as soon as tony blair whispered in that blair whispered in his ear that actually ain't actually electorally this ain't so clever, he did a u—turn on it. that's truth. it. that's the truth. >> he going to be >> he wasn't going to be retrospective. weren't retrospective. they weren't going licences. going to cancel licences. they'd already it may well already existed. and it may well be that they would get rid of

tony blair.a said, you know, tony blair is back, he is black , it's keir starmer. black, it's keir starmer. >> we had half an hour ago. yeah. >> he never went away anyway, the times now and a government expert who recommends that lots of taxpayer money be spent on vaccines has been rewarded with a job at a vaccine company. yes who? they pay commission? no. louis. well i just wondered, before started, want before we get started, i want the know this and the people to know this and i want that i support vaccines. >> i've taken vaccines, and that i am complete supporting vaccines . i haven't taken vaccines. i haven't taken vaccines, but i want you to know that i support them anyway . this that i support them anyway. this guy, jonathan van—tam lands senior role as vaccine with vaccine maker moderna, which is an american company. it sounds italian or something, but it's american. and this is the former deputy chief medical officer. he isn't as bad as chris whitty, but he's he's almost as bad , but he'

blair says the front windows are broken out .e store to get to the back where the fire was most intense. he says the fire was just a few feet away from the stains and other flammable liquids inside that shop. blair is estimating that given the damage, it could be a year to 18 months before they're ready to reopen. on my father's own, the business business for like 20 plus years. so long standing, small neighborhood hardware store and the inner sunset. so yeah, it's devastating. it's to say the least. greg duer lives in the area and is a neighborhood blogger. he says the hardware store is an inner sunset staple. i shop in progress hardware all the time. i was just there last week getting some kew years ago he lived in the apartment building that burned and he says he wasn't surprised to hear about the fire. no no, it's not. i mean, you know, it's an older building with issues and any of these any old building in san francisco is going to have issues. fire investigators have wrapped up their initial on scene investigation and will

but it was under the tony blair labour government blair labour government when blair gave go ahead gavee first privatised to give out the first privatised contracts we go. but contracts. so there we go. but ray says the nhs is chronically overstaffed, not chronically underfunded . interesting. underfunded. interesting. perhaps you're talking about management . there are several management. there are several layers management than layers of management rather than the nurses doctors which we the nurses and doctors which we don't seem to have enough of. i think that's fair to say. at least there seem to be massive staffing gaps. but let's move on. keep, keep your thoughts coming nhs. i think coming in on the nhs. i think it's of those issues that it's one of those issues that everyone to have have an everyone seems to have have an answer seem have answer about. they seem to have answer about. they seem to have a you know, an idea on how it could be fixed and transformed into something because into something better, because it doing it certainly isn't isn't doing a brilliant job at the mome

but joining me to discuss this now is the former labour adviser to blair. scarlett to tony blair.t mccgwire director for mccgwire and the director for the migration, the centre for migration, stephen both of you, thank stephen wolf. both of you, thank you much. it is you very, very much. it is always first. scarlett always ladies first. scarlett i will start with you. the uncomfortable truth is that unless we can deport people, the illegal does illegal migration act does not matter , does it? illegal migration act does not ma'well,does it? illegal migration act does not ma'well, what t? illegal migration act does not ma'well, what we need is >> well, what we need is a proper system so that we proper asylum system so that we can process people and we can deport illegal migrants. >> and. and take in refugees who can then work and pay taxes. what we have at the moment is a complete clogging up. so it takes years, years and years for people to be processed . that's people to be processed. that's the real problem. and it's costing us £6 million a day at the moment . and that's what we

. >> tony blair or someone.nth as a 20th anniversary of the iraq invasioo which blair and bush happily gave the world for george bush would be a pointless interview no disrespect. like shooting fish in the barrel. function be interviewed on iraq for twowo decades. he's a great tough onene tony my intentions were good, the intelligence i will love to go back and forth with him. on the lies that were told and hold that guide to account because no one is held them account for years. >> i would love that tiny bluff bluffer watching c-span if you are onon twitter where politics and prose. we are ready to do it this year. most starkly different than your point of view? >> it's a good question. i guess right now a contentious one as i support defending police brutality in the country. an enforcer the polls are not there yet. it is a tough choice and people in your party as you know run away from this argument. >> of the just don't think. >> only do what they do not want to say it because it's politica suicide they thin

he would deny that. >> tony blair right, >> has he got tony blair right, 42 and the rest. 42 or 43 and should >> right. still to come, should we critical views we outlaw gender critical views as the iea says that as a paper by the iea says that trans activists demands to shut down is a major threat down dissent is a major threat to free speech, where gb news britain's news channel, that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, proud sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> good morning i'm alex deakin and this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news most places having a fine day today. the winds a bit lighter than yesterday as well. some areas cloudier than others. and there is a little bit of rain in the air across the west coast wales . rain in the air across the west coast wales. 1 or 2 rain in the air across the west coast wales . 1 or 2 spots of coast of wales. 1 or 2 spots of light rain drizzle possible light rain and drizzle possible and likely in and further showers likely in western . the odd one western scotland. the odd one across scotlan

like tony blair did. no, it has much that what keir has been talking but no, it has much that what keir provided; been talking but no, it has much that what keir provided he zen talking but no, it has much that what keir provided he carries.ing but no, it has much that what keir provided he carries itg about, provided he carries it out . it is idea about, provided he carries it out. it is idea of making out. it is the idea of making britain a green superpower , and britain a green superpower, and he's focusing mostly on this is myth. the creation of jobs. this is myth that it's pure. >> sorry, nigel, this is pure economic pie in the sky. what you're doing is you are spending vast . you would be spending vast vast. you would be spending vast billions replacing an efficient technology with an inefficient one. you would therefore be shrinking the economy. >> there is if you're going to get to net zero, that is what you've got to do. if you don't believe in net zero, that's really important. >> it is the myth

identical to a young tony blair.o you have similar plans take most similar plans to take over most of world to invade. of the world to invade. >> have an illegal war? actually, i don't actually know what there's a bad what happened. there's a bad war, right ? war, right? >> there's war we love >> there's a bad war we love well, was no justified >> there's a bad war we love wel|in was no justified >> there's a bad war we love wel|in this was no justified >> there's a bad war we love wel|in this world. as no justified >> there's a bad war we love wel|in this world. you're jstified >> there's a bad war we love wel|in this world. you're onlyad war in this world. you're only on on a current on you're only on a current affairs about on you're only on a current affairs right, about on you're only on a current affairs right, let's about on you're only on a current affairs right, let's have about on you're only on a current affairs right, let's have a about on you're only on a current affairs right, let's have a lookt it. all

what blair would do about the economy and whether any whether labour's ideas are any good.let's first of all just good. so let's first of all just go through the front pages of the newspapers . let's have the newspapers. let's have a look at this first one in the sunday telegraph . china will use sunday telegraph. china will use electricity , electric cars to electricity, electric cars to spy electricity, electric cars to spy on britain. that's the first one.the spy on britain. that's the first one. the sunday times iranian state now bigger threat to uk. that's from a suella braverman who's saying that iran now is posing a threat to us from a terror point of view. the observer appalling state of warehouse jails revealed in shock data. that's an expose that the paper has done about jails and that they're not really fit for purpose. the mail on sunday this weekend goes with fat cats. cats cash in. no cost of living squeeze. so that's about all of the big bosses of the energy firms making far too much money from us. sabotage says the sunday express. and they're carrying that i

i think the problem actually goes back to blair when blair decided that 5,050% of the population shouldhould not go to university. and the problem now is you've got institutions that call themselves universities that would once have been called polytechnics. and who would have had excellent world class vocational courses now give out things that they call degrees 0, which are effectively no more than the old fashioned diplomas , and they therefore charge as universities and children or young people rather, are paying through the nose , through loans through the nose, through loans and all the rest of it. very often , certainly not always, but often, certainly not always, but very often on for a qualification that is not going to give them any particular advantage in life. and that is what is so wrong and nobody's got the guts to tackle that now i think. gillian keegan is right when she says that , you know, when she says that, you know, people go to university who shouldn't . i don't think she's shouldn't. i don't think she's right when she says it's because they don't know what else to

i think the problem actually goes back to blair when blair decided that 5,050% of the population shouldhould not go to university. and the problem now is you've got institutions that call themselves universities that would once have been called polytechnics. and who would have had excellent world class vocational courses now give out things that they call degrees 0, which are effectively no more than the old fashioned diplomas , and they therefore charge as universities and children or young people rather, are paying through the nose , through loans through the nose, through loans and all the rest of it. very often , certainly not always, but often, certainly not always, but very often on for a qualification that is not going to give them any particular advantage in life. and that is what is so wrong and nobody's got the guts to tackle that now i think. gillian keegan is right when she says that , you know, when she says that, you know, people go to university who shouldn't . i don't think she's shouldn't. i don't think she's right when she says it's because they don't know what else to

it was done under tony blair's labour government and with great success it must be said. >> tony blairar under a different name and in the end by two thousand and seven, nhs waiting lists were cut to an average of six weeks. now, at the moment the average is 14.5 weeks, but that hides, you know, great variation . you've got lots great variation. you've got lots and lots of people who've been waiting months and months and months nhs appointments. months for nhs appointments. the waiting now at 7.5 waiting list is now at 7.5 million and rishi sunak is under quite a lot of political pressure to get it down sooner, rather than later. he has said over and over again that yes, labour might be ahead in the polls, but he will be measured by how he delivers on those five priorities that he outlined last september when he became prime minister. and one of those was cutting nhs waiting lists. now whether these new 13 diagnostic centres will be enough to make any material difference, we'll have to wait and see. as i say, at the moment, nhs waiting list is a record level at 7.5 million and even the

lottery number this happened so the one couple outside of cleveland ohio jose ervin jr and sierra blaired twins. >> a boy and a girl. but it's not just the twins who will be celebrating the same birthday. listen to this. >> mom and dad also born not just on the same date, but on the exact same day. so all four of them now share the same birthday. guys. what are the odds? >> apparently, 1 in 40 8.6 million. >> yeah, they definitely got to play those numbers for sure. >> very cute. all right. >> they need a birth month. >> and finally, a couple of adorable puma rescue cubs. >> this happened in philadelphia. the two cubs believed to be orphaned have arrived at the philadelphia zoo where they've been given a permanent new home. >> so a little boy cub is named brock and the little girl olympia. their public debut will be this fall. they every time we do this, we're like, look at these baby tiger cubs. look at these baby puma cubs. i'm always like, they'll eat me. >> we did not have our poop fact today. oh, we broke the poop fact streak with our animal stories. yeah. fun fact. oh, my goodness

now, tony blair has this thousands strong think tank called the tony blair institute for global changes of money from all sorts of clients globally, sometimes so savoury sometimes not so savoury regimes, but they also do lots of domestic politics stuff , of domestic politics stuff, policies on ulez policies on digital government policy , on digital government policy, on youth child benefits . and youth child benefits. and interestingly , some has been interestingly, some has been kind of talking about some of the same talking points. for example, ulez you know, keir starmer is being opposed to ulez expansion, something that tony blair institute has been opposing well. and there's opposing as well. and there's been a lot of conversation between the two of them. >> i wonder , here's a story that >> i wonder, here's a story that unhes >> i wonder, here's a story that unites both the conservatives and the hard left because they all hate tony blair. that's one thing. but i wonder what blair's game is, because you're absolutely you talk absolutely right. when you talk about about the digital