so this is tony blair. oh, is this a tony blair one? >> let's do let's go back to 11.e going to do the. no, let's. yes. sorry. >> i'm so confused. sorry. because i've got 1111. >> it's all going very. >> it's all going very. >> well 11 guardian but i thought i wanted to let ben do that one. >> i say let's are we going for the guardian. we're going to go stick with the guardian. >> the guardian. >> the guardian. >> okay. illegal among words most often linked to migrants in uk politics. report finds. so apparently illegal has been one of the most one of the one of the terms most strongly associated with illegal migrants in uk parliamentary debates over the last 20 years, research has found. i mean, so you can't say illegal when it comes to illegal migrants, or are they suggesting that you people are calling all migrants illegal even though they're not? >> well, it sounds to me like they're saying that people in government are using the word. >> a lot when. >> a lot when. >> we're discussing migration, but they would, wouldn't they? because that's a problem that politicia

blair. >> tony blair, bill clinton. >> tony blair, bill clinton, this idea that, look, there is a middleway. there is. i mean, you could sum it up in one word, hope. right? and that's the thing that needs to come back into american politics and not just. >> american politics. i want to ask you about this american politics, the technology part that you were mentioning, right. >> because this i mean, the other huge story this week was about technology. the chinese came out with something called deepseek no deepseek deepseek. >> deepseek dim sum. >> well, they shouldn't have named. >> it so well, they said. a deepseek. okay. >> so deepseek, this is and it is kicking chatgpt's ass. it beat chatgpt as the most downloaded free app in a week. and this was they called it a sputnik moment. now kids, i know you don't know what sputnik. >> is and. >> you weren't born yet. not an excuse. neither was. >> i. and i know what sputnik is. okay? not an excuse. sputnik is. >> at the beginning of the space race. this is the late, late 50s. okay? there were russians. we thought we were going to beat them to

and, i suppose, we aren't making a value judgment we, ithink, reflect in the book that tony blair said that he wanted the 21st century to be a labour century. the 20th century had been a conservative century. of the 21st century entailed. party back into power. and we wanted to examine how that happened. and it is an incredible journey. including lisa nandy, who's now, of course, in cabinet, saying, actually, labour might not even exist if we don't sort ourselves out. back into power. are, if they haven't seen them in the paper? and then i want to hear what your favourite ones are, about jeremy corbyn. patrick, what is it? it's an extraordinary link between dominic cummings and jeremy corbyn. yeah, it's a remarkable story. politically after his long - career in the law as jeremy a second referendum. and that was why he i was so popular among what was he thwarting on the other side? - what did the corbynites want to do? _ and in the process, beat the tories in an election| and split them forever. mind bending. to work for boris johnson as his principal adviser, reality. when that fails.

james blair, although he's not, you know, ostensibly on the political side, he really is. he makes it his personal business several times to. get governors of virginia recalled. he wield political power even though he is a minister and the president of the college of william mary. so he is a major force to be reckoned with and certainly one of the most vocal proponents of moving the capital to williamsburg. and i wouldn't say that factor. i don't want to give ourselves too much credit, but he does encourage and perhaps even write speeches to be delivered. william and mary students to convince the burgesses and the powers that be that move is a good idea and there's from the front of the building as now it is called and i don't know that i consider them terribly persuasive on the face of it. but they do make a series of semi logical arguments for moving the capital that would appeal to the government. and one of them is that this is an up and coming place where the community support the government and the government support the community. and it'll be a nice symbolic relati

but tony blair did a lot of damage to britain with derry , irvine, campbell, derry, irvine, campbell,andelson and brown. so they they embedded all sorts of horrific laws like the human rights act and, you know, the equalities act, they started immigration. they weren't responsible for all of it. they started the legal apparatus for it. and then the tories. well, next the coalition. david cameron's got a lot of blood on his hands. and ultimately the electorate who government should be representing the taxpayers, the people who fund the country, the people who fund the country, the people who work hard, who pay the people who work hard, who pay their taxes. very often the businesses collect all the taxes for the government, so they are not doing their job. and that's why reform is doing so well, because people want representation in parliament. they want a government that looks after their interests, not the interests of people who come here either legally or illegally, who've never paid into the economy, never contributed to our wealth. thank you. ultimately, you know, we need change a