joining us to discuss this, justin hille, a and blair levin, who served several stints at the fcc. blair, if we can start with you, do now know tom wheeler, and what should people who follow these issues know.tom wheeler? >> well, i do know tom wheeler. everyone in this business knows tom wheeler. he was a very successful head of the tray association and a very successful investor both between the trade associations and after he left the wireless industry. the two things i would say that people should understand is he has a breadth of experience on both the policy side and investment side that is extremely valuable. the second thing that is often overlooked, he has actually managed some large organizations, and coming into the fcc, there's part of -- part of the job is to manning -- manage 2,000 people to work together, to develop policy, implement policy, analyze things, and i think he will be very good at that. >> justin? >> i know time at bit as well. i don't know him as well as blair. he was at that time the head ouakari tia. he is a very, very sharp guy. one saying that comes t

blair levin, if we could start with you. do you know tom wheeler, and what should people who follow these issues know about tom wheeler? >> guest: i do know tom wheeler. pretty much everyone who's been in this business knows tom wheeler. he was a very successful head of a trade association and a very successful investor both between the trade association stints and after he left the wireless industry. um, the two things that i would say that people should understand is he has a breadth of experience on both the policy side and the investment side that i think is extremely valuable. and the second thing i think is una overlooked -- often overlooked is he's actually managed some large organizations. and i think coming into the fcc, part of the job is to manage 2,000 people to work together to more effectively develop policy, implement policy, analyze things. and i think he'll be very good at that, and i think that's a real tribute to him. >> host: justin lilley? >> guest: i know tom a little bit as well. i don't know him as we

would quote blair levin he said recently that the fcc is becoming more political institution unless an expert agency. that is what i think people get concerned about, when they feel like agencies, whether it is this one or others we are hearing about the press, seem to have their own for gender -- own agenda. i thought that went the fcc break i have said that. i felt that way with the merger conditions read -- conditions. he and i had a good relationship. we do know is agree. .ut he did some good things he pushed pretty hard on an agenda that he had. i would like to see him get back to the expert tactical agency and i policymaking body that gets beyond where congress is. we're the policymaking body. they should be the the expert agency. >> let's talk about the future of process reform. where we go from here on the legislation? >> are going to the back at it. there are those who opposed our efforts who think process reform allows the sunshine i to go for. it is ironically named because it allows commissioners to meet in private and conduct business. i come from the state of oregon where

i would also quote blair levin who said recently the fcc is becoming more of a political institution and less an expert agency. and that's what i think people get concerned about is when they feel like agencies whether it's this one or other ones we're hearing about in the press seem to have their own agenda and move away from sort of good public policy processes. and i felt that way with the fcc, i've said that there. i felt that way with the merger conditions especially. now, julius did a lot of reforms that have been good, and i know he's leaving, and he and i had a good relationship. we didn't always agree, as you know, but, you know, he did some good things to the reform processes, but he also pushed pretty hard on an agenda that he had, and i'd like to see them get back to being the expert tactical agency and not a policy-making body that really goes beyond what congress is. we're the policy-making body. they should be the expert agency. >> so let's talk about the future of fcc process reform. you know, you guys tried pretty hard last year to advance that legislation. >> guest:

joining us to discuss this, justin hille, a and blair levin, who served several stints at the fcc. blair, if we can start with you, do now know tom wheeler, and what should people who follow these issues

blair levin is former executive director for the fcc, former chief of staff at the fcc. justin lilley, former republican counsel to the house energy and commerce committee, and one of our regulars here on the program, paul kirby, "telecommunications reports" senior editor. gentlemen, thank you. >> guest: thank you. >> guest: thank you. >> c-span, created by america's cable companies in 1979, brought to you as a public service by your television provider. >> coming up next, a look at a joint effort by labor groups and employers to preserve private employer pension programs. after that a live discussion with former commerce secretary carlos gutierrez and former mexican president on migration and economic competitiveness in the u.s., mexico and central america. then a forum on the political situation in egypt two years after the revolution with a look at the country's political crisis and its new generation of leaders. and the senate returns at 2 p.m. eastern from a one week recess for general speeches followed later by votes on the internet sales tax bill and legislation d

policy, and he is the former republican counsel to the house energy and commerce committee, and blair levinith the aspen institute who has served several stints at the ftcc. andou know tom wheeler, what should people who follow these issues know about tom wheeler? >> i do know tom wheeler. he was a very successful .nvestor between the trade association stints and after he left the wireless industry as well. the two things i will say, he has a breadth of experience on both the policy side and the investment side that is extremely valuable. the second thing often overlooked, he is actually managed some large organizations -- has actually managed some large organizations, to work together to develop and implement policy, analyze things. i think he will be good at that. >> justin lilley? >> i knew tom a little bit as well.

blair, join the house of lords just a few years ago. also here, fairly recently, lord o'donnell. and lord levine.e will be having a look at who else is there in a short while. the state opening for many of the high point of the year for pageantry and decision and impressive ceremony. one of the most familiar customs, symbolically important, involves the parliamentary official david leakey. i have been to meet him. this is where the real power lies. this is the government dispatch box in the house of commons. it is for the prime minister answers questions every week. on state opening day, the members of the house of commons are summoned to the house of lords to listen to the queen's speech. the man doing the summoning is a man known as black rod. he is a key player in the ceremony and drama of the day. >> pc could. >> everyone says he is knocking on the door at the opening of parliament and thinks that my job is part-time and ceremonial. i send the majority of my time dealing with security. that is my major responsibility. >> this is the famous walk, down from the central lobby here to the house o