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blinken: yeah.age closely, and i have spent some time in that same building you are. and this was a triumph of diplomatic diplo-speak. sec. blinken: thank you. richard: where the two sides agreed to explore the creation of a working group. love that. so there was that. and then i saw that china basically however you say “not now” or “take a hike” in mandarin, on establishing mil-mil crisis communications. so my question is on those two issues, am i misreading it? and then on other issues, for example, china's willingness to participate in the next round of nuclear arms control talks. the last time i raised it with a senior chinese official he basically said, “no way, we've got to build up our nuclear arms. we are not interested. do you get the sense that when china is looking at all these issues - where did you come away with optimism? is there any area where, again, you see some potential upside in china's diplomatic openness? sec. blinken: well, first, just taking the issues that you've mentioned,
blinken: yeah.age closely, and i have spent some time in that same building you are. and this was a triumph of diplomatic diplo-speak. sec. blinken: thank you. richard: where the two sides agreed to explore the creation of a working group. love that. so there was that. and then i saw that china basically however you say “not now” or “take a hike” in mandarin, on establishing mil-mil crisis communications. so my question is on those two issues, am i misreading it? and then on other...
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if anthony blinken is _ she seen in china? if anthony blinken is seen _ she seen in china?y blinken is seen as _ she seen in china? if anthony blinken is seen as the - she seen in china? if anthony blinken is seen as the bad - she seen in china? if anthony i blinken is seen as the bad cop, we've seen in the chinese state media, welcoming this visit and welcoming her coming, she is seen very much more is someone who is in favour of engagement. she made a speech earlier this yearin she made a speech earlier this year in which she said decoupling with china is not an option, it would be terrible for the united states and china and the rest of the world's economy so in that respect, she is seen as someone who really does want to reengage but she's not going to be able fulfil any of china's basic demands because china would like to see a lifting of the trumpet era sanctions that were imposed on china back during the trump administration and janet yellen is not in a position to give any of those concessions to china. so again, i think this is a stabilisation rather than any massi
if anthony blinken is _ she seen in china? if anthony blinken is seen _ she seen in china?y blinken is seen as _ she seen in china? if anthony blinken is seen as the - she seen in china? if anthony blinken is seen as the bad - she seen in china? if anthony i blinken is seen as the bad cop, we've seen in the chinese state media, welcoming this visit and welcoming her coming, she is seen very much more is someone who is in favour of engagement. she made a speech earlier this yearin she made a...
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secretary blinken: by this summer. reporter: had the white house nominated anyone? secretary blinken: we'll come back to you with all the people no, ma'am naid or about to be nominate. the black sea grain initiative, po tu it in perspective. it should have never been necessary. it's only necessary because russia invaded ukraine and then blockaded the ports and kept you kraib from sending grain around the world, as it has for year it's been the bread basket of the world. turkiye negotiated this arrangement to at least allow the grain and other food products to get out of ukraine and onto world markets. that's had a tremendously positive benefit. something like 32 million tons of food products have gotten out, the equivalent of 18 billion loafs of bread in the roughly one year the grain initiative has been in effect. that's done two things. it's gotten food onto people's plates but even when the food wasn't going directly to certain country, certain people, it also was helping to keep prices low because it's a global market. 10 the result of russia's action today, rep
secretary blinken: by this summer. reporter: had the white house nominated anyone? secretary blinken: we'll come back to you with all the people no, ma'am naid or about to be nominate. the black sea grain initiative, po tu it in perspective. it should have never been necessary. it's only necessary because russia invaded ukraine and then blockaded the ports and kept you kraib from sending grain around the world, as it has for year it's been the bread basket of the world. turkiye negotiated this...
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one of the biggest items on blinken�*s agenda is china's influence in the region.na's "assertiveness in the south and east china seas and in the taiwan strait" — and added that the us wants to maintain peace and stability in the taiwan strait. earlier, i spoke with matt miller, the us state department spokesperson about blinken�*s message in the region. thank you very much forjoining us on our programme today. i want to start with the secretary of state, blinken, meeting with allies at the asean conference there. and he has been speaking to them among other things about china's influence and warning them against coercion. i want to ask you about something that we saw singapore's foreign minister say, "we are not choosing sides, we do not want to be proxies, we do not want to be vassal states, we do not want to be divided." what do you make of that? i would say that at least on the united states behalf, we have never asked any country to choose sides between us and china. we fully expect other countries in the world to have diplomatic relations with china, to have e
one of the biggest items on blinken�*s agenda is china's influence in the region.na's "assertiveness in the south and east china seas and in the taiwan strait" — and added that the us wants to maintain peace and stability in the taiwan strait. earlier, i spoke with matt miller, the us state department spokesperson about blinken�*s message in the region. thank you very much forjoining us on our programme today. i want to start with the secretary of state, blinken, meeting with...
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they met when blinken went to beijing and blinken did meet xi jinping.have janet yellen going to beijing, did not meet xi but met all of her counterparts. this sunday, climate envoy from the biden administration john kerry it will go to beijing. all of these are positive that they have dialogue. there is that overarching issue of the trade war, there are sanctions against the chinese defense minister, and you have all of these export controls, tit-for-tat moves, but there have been these incidents whether it was the pelosi visit to taiwan, the spy balloon over the united states. i mentioned the dictator comment, and now allegations of chinese hacking of state and commerce department emails. again, the progress, the train is moving in the right direction to give dialogue going. kathleen: let's over this job that train. that way stephen engle. coming up, the first time in six decades, hollywood writers and actors are on strike at the same time in a new blow to struggling studios. a new update from los angeles coming up. this is bloomberg. ♪ is it possible
they met when blinken went to beijing and blinken did meet xi jinping.have janet yellen going to beijing, did not meet xi but met all of her counterparts. this sunday, climate envoy from the biden administration john kerry it will go to beijing. all of these are positive that they have dialogue. there is that overarching issue of the trade war, there are sanctions against the chinese defense minister, and you have all of these export controls, tit-for-tat moves, but there have been these...
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he hosted the secretary of state antony blinken on june 18, but missed other high-level visits in theollowing weeks. he was absent from a foreign ministers meeting in jakarta due to health reasons, officials said. qin was known as one of xi jinping's most trusted advisors. >> he was handpicked by xi to leapfrog more established candidates to become foreign minister last year. so he is a captains pick. even more so than many other xi allies in terms of the speed of their rise through the communist party ranks. >> at age 57 he was one of the youngest officials to become foreign minister. after serving as ambassador to the u.s. for two years, he was considered one of china's original wolf warriors, garnering attention for his assertive style between 2005-2014. the mystery surrounding his whereabouts highlights the secretive nature of the chinese government. it is not uncommon for businesspeople or celebrities to temporarily disappear from the public eye after falling foul of authorities, but it has happened to a powerful government figure and that is rare. qin and his term as the shortes
he hosted the secretary of state antony blinken on june 18, but missed other high-level visits in theollowing weeks. he was absent from a foreign ministers meeting in jakarta due to health reasons, officials said. qin was known as one of xi jinping's most trusted advisors. >> he was handpicked by xi to leapfrog more established candidates to become foreign minister last year. so he is a captains pick. even more so than many other xi allies in terms of the speed of their rise through the...
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they called blinken blinken - biden's talking penguin.e becomes lion byda. but when he arrived si he again became a penguin and nothing else at all from a penguin leo in any way. it turns out, it seems to me that, well, it doesn’t work at all. so yeah, it can't move on. he stuck to the biden without biden. he is nobody his career can end there is every reason to believe that it is he who pushes biden to come forward when there are no physical conditions for this. here is what we can say about the role of blinkin in modern history and politics. and we have a direct connection eduard lazansky political scientist americanist eduard hello, please tell us, have you heard our discussion, a heated discussion on the personality of blinken, is he a manager or a person who manages? well, let's go soon, that he is the gray cardinal a and the gray cardinal who brought biden to the white house, we know this and he was helped about it, 51 american employees of the american intelligence services leading. e. and by the way, er, after that and now accordi
they called blinken blinken - biden's talking penguin.e becomes lion byda. but when he arrived si he again became a penguin and nothing else at all from a penguin leo in any way. it turns out, it seems to me that, well, it doesn’t work at all. so yeah, it can't move on. he stuck to the biden without biden. he is nobody his career can end there is every reason to believe that it is he who pushes biden to come forward when there are no physical conditions for this. here is what we can say about...
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why didn't blinken postpone his trip this time as he did after the chinese spy balloon?americans saw with their own eyes the balloon flying over. but a cyberattack? i think they thought they could conceal that until after blinken had arrived back from his chinese meetings and when confronted with those inconvenient facts, of course, buffoons who communicate for biden claim what, it's no big deal. >> what does it say to you it was happening just as secretary blinken was headed to beijing? >> i don't want to get ahead of the fbi investigation. i'll say a couple of things. first, our networks are attacked every day, state and nonstate actors around the world. it's not uncommon for some of those state actors, russia, iran, north korea, china, to be parts of the process and i don't know that it's helpful to try to read too much into the timing of this attack with secretary yellen's trip. >> laura: not only does kirby think you're too stupid to know the difference between blinken and yellen, maybe because it's two syllables each, he thinks your concern of a chains government h
why didn't blinken postpone his trip this time as he did after the chinese spy balloon?americans saw with their own eyes the balloon flying over. but a cyberattack? i think they thought they could conceal that until after blinken had arrived back from his chinese meetings and when confronted with those inconvenient facts, of course, buffoons who communicate for biden claim what, it's no big deal. >> what does it say to you it was happening just as secretary blinken was headed to beijing?...
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first i sit down with the secretary of state antony blinken. i ask him about america's standing in the world and its biggest challenges abroad. russia -- >> in terms of what russia sought to achieve, they've already failed and lost. >>> and china. and then an interview with ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy. we talk about the counter offensive. is it as slow going as it seems? and why? and what does kyiv need from the west to speed it up? >>> but first, here is my take. when i speak to people about right wing populism these days i notice that many tend to believe that it is old news. populist leaders cantured the world's attention in 2016 with the brexit referendum and later that year with donald trump's election victory. now 7 years later, many seem to feel it is past its prime. trump was defeated in 2020 and under indictment. brexit has been a messy failurement a majority of britains regret it passed. but wild some heroes and causes have been battered, the core appeal of the movements persist and has gained ground in recent months. cons
first i sit down with the secretary of state antony blinken. i ask him about america's standing in the world and its biggest challenges abroad. russia -- >> in terms of what russia sought to achieve, they've already failed and lost. >>> and china. and then an interview with ukraine's president volodymyr zelenskyy. we talk about the counter offensive. is it as slow going as it seems? and why? and what does kyiv need from the west to speed it up? >>> but first, here is my...
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earlier in the year, we saw secretary of state antony blinken pay a visit to china. a couple weeks ago we saw secretary of the treasury janet yellen make a visit to china. and now this discussion on the sidelines in indonesia. fraps perhaps it is setting the stage for an even bigger conversation between president biden and xi jinping. we'll have to see. but these incremental steps are seen as very significant. >> mark stewart, thank you as always. >>> u.s. state department says blinken also raised concerns about hacking with china. warning that the u.s. government will respond to any action that targets its interests. that is after microsoft announced china based hackers breached email accounts of two dozen organizations including some u.s. government agencies. kylie atwood explains what china might have gained from that attack. >> reporter: the biden administration believes that china's hack of u.s. government agencies provided the chinese government awith insights into the biden administration thinking ahead of the planned visit to china by the secretary of state a
earlier in the year, we saw secretary of state antony blinken pay a visit to china. a couple weeks ago we saw secretary of the treasury janet yellen make a visit to china. and now this discussion on the sidelines in indonesia. fraps perhaps it is setting the stage for an even bigger conversation between president biden and xi jinping. we'll have to see. but these incremental steps are seen as very significant. >> mark stewart, thank you as always. >>> u.s. state department says...
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i'm budget were joined by secretary blinken. we rely on each other every day because to compete and succeed we must use all of the tools of american power. i'm grateful to congress for recognizing the urgency of the china challenge in taking bipartisan action to mediate. i like to underscore five key points today out the department of defense is tackling the security challenge in lockstep with our partners across the administration, around the world and here in congress. refocusing the entire department on continuing to outpace the prc. prc is our only competitor with both the intent and increasingly the capacity to reshape the international system to suit its autocratic preferences. beijing has increased bullying and provocations in the end the pacific. it has embarked upon historic buildup including space and cyberspace. it is either effeminate nor inevitable. we must face up to prc growing assertiveness. the departments mission is clear to deter aggression that threatens our national vital interest but we are investing more t
i'm budget were joined by secretary blinken. we rely on each other every day because to compete and succeed we must use all of the tools of american power. i'm grateful to congress for recognizing the urgency of the china challenge in taking bipartisan action to mediate. i like to underscore five key points today out the department of defense is tackling the security challenge in lockstep with our partners across the administration, around the world and here in congress. refocusing the entire...
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i secretary of state antony blinken visited china?important visit, - blinken visited china? i think it is an important visit, it - blinken visited china? i think it is an important visit, it is l it is an important visit, it is a process of starting to re—establish channels of communication between the us and china. in the run—up to what could a meeting between our two presidents, joe biden and xijinping at the our two presidents, joe biden and xi jinping at the apec leaders meeting in november. this is a very fragile relationship, there have been a lot of problems and friction, there has been suspension of some of the channels of communication for many months, and so this is a tenuous re— engagement. and so this is a tenuous re- engagement-— and so this is a tenuous re- engagement. presumably janet yellen will be _ engagement. presumably janet yellen will be looking _ engagement. presumably janet yellen will be looking to - engagement. presumably janet yellen will be looking to open l yellen will be looking to open up yellen will be
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secretary of state antony blinken and the defense? counterparts in brisbane. they're holding talks on the aukus defence agreement, which will see the us supply nuclear submarine technology to australia. live now to sydney and our correspondent phil mercer. what is the latest on this helicopter crash? the wreckage of the helicopter has been discovered in the whitsundays. this is usually a very popular tourist area. the wreckage was found north of hamilton island north of brisbane. navy divers will tomorrow, sunday, begin to scour the sea bed. there is still no sign of the four people who were on board this australian army helicopter when it ditched into the sea. it was taking part in night—time removers with a second aircraft of the queensland coast, and it is part of talisman sabre, this massive military operation war drill involving australian and united states troops, along with military personnel from almost a dozen other countries. the investigation is now ongoing, and the search for those missing aircrew will also continue over t
secretary of state antony blinken and the defense? counterparts in brisbane. they're holding talks on the aukus defence agreement, which will see the us supply nuclear submarine technology to australia. live now to sydney and our correspondent phil mercer. what is the latest on this helicopter crash? the wreckage of the helicopter has been discovered in the whitsundays. this is usually a very popular tourist area. the wreckage was found north of hamilton island north of brisbane. navy divers...
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more now of my interview with antony blinken. >> mr. travel around the world, particularly when i talk to asian diplomats i get a message about u.s.-china relations which is they're wondering where this is going, whether there is now a kind of an ongoing ratchet effect, a tit for tat, the united states puts certain kinds of restrictions on china and china will then respond. is there a possible stable equilibrium that we are arriving at? as one diplomat said to me what i'm trying to understand from the americans is are they done or will this just continue and continue? >> fareed, two things. first, we are working to put some stability in the relationship to put a floor under the relationship, to make sure that the competition that we're in doesn't veer into conflict which would not be in our interest, their interest or anyone else's and that starts with strengthen our lines of communication. talking, engaging. working through as best we can our profound differences and being clear about them so they're not misunderstandings of intent and
more now of my interview with antony blinken. >> mr. travel around the world, particularly when i talk to asian diplomats i get a message about u.s.-china relations which is they're wondering where this is going, whether there is now a kind of an ongoing ratchet effect, a tit for tat, the united states puts certain kinds of restrictions on china and china will then respond. is there a possible stable equilibrium that we are arriving at? as one diplomat said to me what i'm trying to...
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secretary of state antony blinken said the the u.s.focused on building such a coalition, and crucially here trying to find a country to lead it. he said he expects to have progress on that front in his words very soon. meantime, with 80% of the capital now controlled by rival gangs and neighborhoods terrorized by crime, the u.s. is urging americans to get out now. the e department advisory reads, given the recent armed clashes between gangs and police and the high tt of violent crime and kidnapping throughout port-au-prince, the department of state says u.s. citizens should make plans to leave as soon as possible. here's more. >> reporter: terrified people flee an area around the u.s. embassy in port-au-prince, haiti after what appears to be tear gas is deployed. for the last several days people have camped out outside the embassy, apparently because they feel it's one of the last few places where they can be safe. local residents say gangs are laying siege to the tobar neighborhood in port-au-prince, the same neighborhood where the u.
secretary of state antony blinken said the the u.s.focused on building such a coalition, and crucially here trying to find a country to lead it. he said he expects to have progress on that front in his words very soon. meantime, with 80% of the capital now controlled by rival gangs and neighborhoods terrorized by crime, the u.s. is urging americans to get out now. the e department advisory reads, given the recent armed clashes between gangs and police and the high tt of violent crime and...
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is that something you, blinken or officials have spoken to senators? >> i will speak to what is an internal senate issue, from our perspective we have already provided documents in response to his request, we have made clear that we see this as an ongoing process and we will continue to buy documents responsive to his request but he is asking us for documents that are not state department documents and documents we cannot provide because they are not in our possession but uses that as an excuse to hold up state department nominees. as the secretary pointed out, who has never been held to the standard. the vast majority of career ambassadors have been confirmed to unanimous consent. so we are happy to continue to engage a legitimate process with senator paul. i will let senator menendez speak to internal issues, but he shouldn't be holding our nominees hostage because all that does is hurt our national security. go ahead. >> thank you. he would announce last week a statement for this due to the position in china last year. it was north korea, what solut
is that something you, blinken or officials have spoken to senators? >> i will speak to what is an internal senate issue, from our perspective we have already provided documents in response to his request, we have made clear that we see this as an ongoing process and we will continue to buy documents responsive to his request but he is asking us for documents that are not state department documents and documents we cannot provide because they are not in our possession but uses that as an...
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capital and she is the second high—level us cabinet member to do so after secretary of state antony blinkent just a couple of weeks ago. her trip also comes after beijing moved to limit the exports of certain rare earths just days ago. monica miller has more. this is the first time a us treasury secretary has visited china since the covid pandemic and this is the environment they find themselves in. for example, trade restrictions. one point of contention is over rare earth metals, essential components to make semiconductor those which are used in everything from smart phones to military equipment. earlier this week beijing said it will require a special license to obtain two metals predominantly mined in china stopping this move has seen a retaliation against export bands put in place by the united states of critical technology needed for artificial intelligence and quantum computing. both sides argue that these bands are neededin argue that these bands are needed in the interest of national security. another issueis national security. another issue is the weakening yuan. china's currency
capital and she is the second high—level us cabinet member to do so after secretary of state antony blinkent just a couple of weeks ago. her trip also comes after beijing moved to limit the exports of certain rare earths just days ago. monica miller has more. this is the first time a us treasury secretary has visited china since the covid pandemic and this is the environment they find themselves in. for example, trade restrictions. one point of contention is over rare earth metals, essential...
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mr blinken's visit is viewed in part as an effort to counter china's implements in the region.r indo pacific defence and strategy at the international institute for strategic studies, a british think tank. thank you forjoining us on the programme. firstly, it seems the us is really trying to show its commitment to the south comac —— to the south pacific after china targeted the region with its belt and road initiative.— with its belt and road initiative. ,, ., , ,., , initiative. sure, absolutely. i think chinese _ initiative. sure, absolutely. i think chinese investment - initiative. sure, absolutely. i think chinese investment in l initiative. sure, absolutely. i. think chinese investment in the south pacific has been a concern around the influence that might afford china as well, in the direction that the united states and others are potentially not comfortable with, that we can to the rule of and decrease transparency for example, but also more generally concerns around debt in the region to china, and the lack of sustainable investment, which the united states is now tryin
mr blinken's visit is viewed in part as an effort to counter china's implements in the region.r indo pacific defence and strategy at the international institute for strategic studies, a british think tank. thank you forjoining us on the programme. firstly, it seems the us is really trying to show its commitment to the south comac —— to the south pacific after china targeted the region with its belt and road initiative.— with its belt and road initiative. ,, ., , ,., , initiative. sure,...
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us secretary of state blinken warns asean nations about the influence of china in the region — but iscord high temperatures are impacting communities across the globe — and it shows now sign of slowing down. live from washington. this is bbc news the largest strike in nearly six decades is under way in hollywood — as actors join the picket lines. us secretary of state blinken warns asean nations about the influence of china in the region — but is his message working? record high temperatures are impacting communities across the globe — and it shows now sign of slowing down. hello. we start tonight here in the us — where tens of thousands of hollywood actors have gone on strike, with picket lines formed in new york and los angeles. as a result, film and tv productions in the us — and around the world — have come to a halt.
us secretary of state blinken warns asean nations about the influence of china in the region — but iscord high temperatures are impacting communities across the globe — and it shows now sign of slowing down. live from washington. this is bbc news the largest strike in nearly six decades is under way in hollywood — as actors join the picket lines. us secretary of state blinken warns asean nations about the influence of china in the region — but is his message working? record high...
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plans and thinking ahead of anthony blinken strip and we still send anthony blinken and we follow upand others in the commerce secretary either have met with high-level officials or will very soon. it seems perplexing the way that you presented and looking at it objectively. the absolutely there is a logic and is not about the democrats or republicans. i think it is a point of view that's been deeply embedded in american politics. especially since world war ii when the u.s. is the greatest power on earth there is a sense in it's a bipartisan issue that the world wants to be like us. if we ensure people that they will become like as and when we get information that is contrary to the very reality like the hacking problem with the chinese. think is a cognitive dissidents and that's what's going on with the biden administration. it is receiving hard evidence from the chinese, the south china sea, the human rights abuses. across-the-board it is demanding more from that our military policies and/or sanctions changed before there can be military to military relations of which there are non
plans and thinking ahead of anthony blinken strip and we still send anthony blinken and we follow upand others in the commerce secretary either have met with high-level officials or will very soon. it seems perplexing the way that you presented and looking at it objectively. the absolutely there is a logic and is not about the democrats or republicans. i think it is a point of view that's been deeply embedded in american politics. especially since world war ii when the u.s. is the greatest...
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blinken added that negotations are in progress to bring them home. and china. the most recent source of tension came when china announced this week it would impose export controls on two rare metals essential for semiconductors manufacturing, citing security concerns. the two metals — gallium and germanium — will be subject to export controls "to protect national "security and interests," china's ministry of commerce said on monday. relations between the us and china appeared to be improving when secretary blinken met president xijinping last month. he was the highest—ranking us official to visit the chinese capital in nearly five years. but then, just a day later, presidentjoe biden referred to the chinese leader as a dictator at a fundraising event in california. now there's another big us trip planned this week, as us treasury secretary janet yellen will visit beijing. the treasury said it would be a visit to discuss the importance for both sides to "responsibly manage "the relationship and work "together to address global challenges". our asia bu
blinken added that negotations are in progress to bring them home. and china. the most recent source of tension came when china announced this week it would impose export controls on two rare metals essential for semiconductors manufacturing, citing security concerns. the two metals — gallium and germanium — will be subject to export controls "to protect national "security and interests," china's ministry of commerce said on monday. relations between the us and china appeared...
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blinken went to china and followed up and set janet yellen to china.g required american companies in china to host groups to monitor their cpp rules. watch this. >> would come specifically to the business community while there is no law against joint ventures the problem that we have that the chinese government all too often has exploited the joint ventures to use them as ways to get improper access to companies secrets and information. >> you find that they stepped it up where the nationalizing u.s. company's quietly? >> in a variety of ways i have not thought of using the term but i think you're onto an important point. maria: we've talked about this so much rob replicate the strategy, dave said beijing follows and replace foreigners. joining the atlas organization founder and the author of the decisive decade jonathan dt word back with us. in the decisive decade refers to the decade that america and the west needs to act in response to china's aggression. good to see you. thank you for being here. let's talk first about the hack in the chinese hacke
blinken went to china and followed up and set janet yellen to china.g required american companies in china to host groups to monitor their cpp rules. watch this. >> would come specifically to the business community while there is no law against joint ventures the problem that we have that the chinese government all too often has exploited the joint ventures to use them as ways to get improper access to companies secrets and information. >> you find that they stepped it up where the...
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antony blinken at start of the press conference. let's go to that now for a little bit. >> to defend u.s. national security, to sustain the strength of our alliances and partnerships around the world, to ensure that their foreign policies advancing the interests of the american people, we did our best possible team on the field. by failing to confirm these nominees, a handful of senators are keeping our best players on the sidelines. i worked in the senate for ye years. so of course at president biden. i respect and value it's critical role. it's crucial to ensuring that we have highly qualified individuals were present in the united states around the world. but that is not what is happening here. no one is questioning. it is irresponsible and it is doing harm to national security. confirming these nominees matters. spew and we will jump from this to something else appeared sandra. >> sandra: heading to capitol hill where kevin mccarthy is taking questions. let's listen here. >> this administration has not solved it. we are drafting
antony blinken at start of the press conference. let's go to that now for a little bit. >> to defend u.s. national security, to sustain the strength of our alliances and partnerships around the world, to ensure that their foreign policies advancing the interests of the american people, we did our best possible team on the field. by failing to confirm these nominees, a handful of senators are keeping our best players on the sidelines. i worked in the senate for ye years. so of course at...
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we don't know, for example, if it accessed secretary of state antony blinken's e-mails.ieve they were able to get insights around the thinking of the trip to china. it's not likely the chinese gained a lot of new intel from this hack. they were not able to breech classified systems. it shouldn't come as a surprise that there were these hacking attempts. these two super powers regularly try to spy on each other. the timing is significant. the trip had been put off for months and very little communication between the two sides. now secretary of state antony blinken just the other day met with a top chinese official in indonesia on the sidelines of a summit there. we're told by a senior state department official that he did, in fact, raise that hack in this meeting. this is what he said about the message on this hack. >> as a general matter, we have consistently made clear to china as well as to other countries that any action that targets the u.s. government or u.s. companies or american citizens is of deep concern to us and we will take appropriate action in response. >>
we don't know, for example, if it accessed secretary of state antony blinken's e-mails.ieve they were able to get insights around the thinking of the trip to china. it's not likely the chinese gained a lot of new intel from this hack. they were not able to breech classified systems. it shouldn't come as a surprise that there were these hacking attempts. these two super powers regularly try to spy on each other. the timing is significant. the trip had been put off for months and very little...
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speaking before kenya's announcement, the us secretary of state anthony blinken voiced concerns abouthe situation. we have very deep concern to the situation there, particularly with regard to violence and the activities of the goings. we are, as i think you know, the largest humanitarian donor to haiti, but we are also very focused on working together with partners to try to help the haitians restore security, restore stability. that really is the necessary foundation. the developments happen as a christian aid group says an american nurse and her child have been kidnapped in the country. it happened on thursday near the capital, port—au—prince, after the us advised all its citizens to leave the country because of the worsening security situation. gangs control large parts of haiti's capital port—au—prince and kidnappings for ransom are common. earlier, i spoke about the situation in haiti with harold isaac, a journalist based near port—au—prince. kenya says that it is prepared to send a multinational force to haiti — what more do we know about that and how it might work? very little
speaking before kenya's announcement, the us secretary of state anthony blinken voiced concerns abouthe situation. we have very deep concern to the situation there, particularly with regard to violence and the activities of the goings. we are, as i think you know, the largest humanitarian donor to haiti, but we are also very focused on working together with partners to try to help the haitians restore security, restore stability. that really is the necessary foundation. the developments happen...
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anchorage and he lectured anthony blinken and yelled to him how were a backcountry and anthony blinkenre and took it he did not pushback there's no way that that happens in the trump administration that is the overall problem the weakness that unfortunately our current commander-in-chief projects to the entire world. stuart: what can you tell us about fbi director christopher wray and his testimony coming up before your committee on wednesday, you have the durham report, the irs whistleblower and now an investigation to cocaine found at the white house. are weakening any fresh revelations on wednesday. >> here's what i know time and time again chris ray has told us everything is fine he testified in front of congress and said you can sleep well at night knowing we fix the pfizer process, really 204,000 reasons why that statement is not true. that's a number of illegal inquiries they did to the 702 section of the pfizer law illegal losing scrutinizing citizens 204,000 times according to the new york times. there is a host of problems and we know the justice department has labeled parent
anchorage and he lectured anthony blinken and yelled to him how were a backcountry and anthony blinkenre and took it he did not pushback there's no way that that happens in the trump administration that is the overall problem the weakness that unfortunately our current commander-in-chief projects to the entire world. stuart: what can you tell us about fbi director christopher wray and his testimony coming up before your committee on wednesday, you have the durham report, the irs whistleblower...
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antony blinken raises issues.omberg. ♪ fabulous surroundings... but everyone's looking at their phones for financial insights from merrill. is he hailing a ride to the concert hall? no. he's making sure his portfolio and retirement plans work in harmony. they want to adopt a child and build a new home. so they're talking numbers with their merrill adviser. she's not researching her next role. she's learning how to handle market ups and downs without the drama. personalized advice so impressive your money never stops working for you with merrill. a bank of america company. >> janet yellen will travel to india and vietnam next week, sticking stronger ties with two increasingly important u.s. partners. she will head to india for a g20 meeting where she will push for reform and global lending institutions. her first visit to india and nine months amid a push to strengthen trade and economic ties with china's giant neighbor. with her recent trip to china, let's discuss the u.s.-china relationship with our next guest, j
antony blinken raises issues.omberg. ♪ fabulous surroundings... but everyone's looking at their phones for financial insights from merrill. is he hailing a ride to the concert hall? no. he's making sure his portfolio and retirement plans work in harmony. they want to adopt a child and build a new home. so they're talking numbers with their merrill adviser. she's not researching her next role. she's learning how to handle market ups and downs without the drama. personalized advice so...
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i would say it is a little bit like good cop bad cop, blinken being the bad cop and now yellen going the good cop trying to say, "look, we have a lot in common, let's see what we can do together," but boy, back home in the united states, both the democrats and the republicans are bashing on china, trump put in tariffs on hundreds of billions of chinese goods and president biden, who has reversed every trump policy he can, has kept that one. but despite those cooling tensions, the trade between the two have actually been growing but of course just ahead of her visit, beijing announcing those export controls on rare metals, also introducing some new laws on foreign relations and counterespionage and so on. is beijing playing hardball or could these moves actually backfire? i think beijing sees themselves as countering what the us is doing, putting on export controls on things as listeners just heard, on quantum computing, artificial intelligence, areas where the us has the cutting edge and doesn't want beijing to catch up on the us says no, we're just doing that for security, not a com
i would say it is a little bit like good cop bad cop, blinken being the bad cop and now yellen going the good cop trying to say, "look, we have a lot in common, let's see what we can do together," but boy, back home in the united states, both the democrats and the republicans are bashing on china, trump put in tariffs on hundreds of billions of chinese goods and president biden, who has reversed every trump policy he can, has kept that one. but despite those cooling tensions, the...
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side would accuse them of organizing a coup d'etat already during the mutiny, secretary of state blinken , ordered the employees of the state department not to speak out on this topic and not to discuss the situation in russia with anyone at the same time blinken hastened to inform moscow that the united states does not have nothing to do with the rebellion. and he considers this as an internal affair of russia. later , the head of the cia, burns, contacted the head of foreign intelligence, naryshkin, in order to declare that the united states was not involved in these events. he came from, where did such an attack of sudden shyness come from, just like with my mother, the hand of people who, right now, in fact, are directly in charge of the ukrainian non-donat. the president very accurately recalled the year 1917, the february military mutiny was being prepared under criticism about the corruption of changes in the allied embassies britain and france about lenin in the struggle for international happiness. just took german ideas. goodbye, however. this was the author 's comment by mikha
side would accuse them of organizing a coup d'etat already during the mutiny, secretary of state blinken , ordered the employees of the state department not to speak out on this topic and not to discuss the situation in russia with anyone at the same time blinken hastened to inform moscow that the united states does not have nothing to do with the rebellion. and he considers this as an internal affair of russia. later , the head of the cia, burns, contacted the head of foreign intelligence,...
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to antony blinken have led us stateside so far. ., ,., antony blinken have led us stateside so far. . to both of you, we will hear more from you _ so far. to both of you, we will hear more from you later _ so far. to both of you, we will hear more from you later but _ so far. to both of you, we will hear more from you later but for - so far. to both of you, we will hear more from you later but for now, l more from you later but for now, this is bbc news. time is ticking on the prime minister's pledged to halve inflation by the end of the year, to slow down scoring average prices, when he made that promise inflation had been at over 10% so his target is to get it down to around 5%. richmond in yorkshire is around 5%. richmond in yorkshire is a historic market town and relies on tourism and with household budgets squeezed the people cutting back on things like mini breaks and eating out. , ., , ., things like mini breaks and eating out. , ., , ., out. does not seem to be, our occupancy — out. does not seem to be, our occupancy levels _ out. does not seem to be, our occupancy levels or _
to antony blinken have led us stateside so far. ., ,., antony blinken have led us stateside so far. . to both of you, we will hear more from you _ so far. to both of you, we will hear more from you later _ so far. to both of you, we will hear more from you later but _ so far. to both of you, we will hear more from you later but for - so far. to both of you, we will hear more from you later but for now, l more from you later but for now, this is bbc news. time is ticking on the prime minister's...
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there is a us secretary of state antony blinken just emerging.have a secretary of state at downing street today as well? yes it is at downing street today as well? yes it is significant. all at downing street today as well? 123 it is significant. all of at downing street today as well? i2; it is significant. all of these visits are significant because trying to find its place in a post—brexit world all of these readerships are important. both sides will say this is one of the most important relationships. but the mute music at downing street todayis the mute music at downing street today is that the us is treating the uk like any other european country. so it is significant that the secretary of state this year as well, he will be having meetings with his counterparts, i'm sure. we will bring you the latest when president biden emerges from the doorstep behind me. we understand that he is still in talks with prime minister rishi sunak. an update on that braking is coming to us from the south—west of england. we were telling you earlier about a lo
there is a us secretary of state antony blinken just emerging.have a secretary of state at downing street today as well? yes it is at downing street today as well? yes it is significant. all at downing street today as well? 123 it is significant. all of at downing street today as well? i2; it is significant. all of these visits are significant because trying to find its place in a post—brexit world all of these readerships are important. both sides will say this is one of the most important...
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youp just wrapped up a sitdown with secretary of state antony blinken.ere. you talked about the fate of private king. what were some of the key takeaways? >> well, you know, thanks so much peter, because the secretary made a lot of news today on a wide variety of topics. we talked about the china's hack of our diplomats, russia's bombing of ukraine's harbors, iran, and of course as you point out the american soldier, travis king, being held in north korea. >> with regard to private king, unfortunately i don't have any further information to share. we are very concerned of course about his well-being, but we'd like to know his whereabouts. we have communicated to north korea seeking that information. i don't have anything more at this point. >> we all saw the tragedy of others. are there concerns given the past and how north korea has treated those it's detained. >> and north korea has so rapidly increased their missile and nuclear program. when is the last time you have any communications with them as they violate multiple u.n. resolutions? >> well, we h
youp just wrapped up a sitdown with secretary of state antony blinken.ere. you talked about the fate of private king. what were some of the key takeaways? >> well, you know, thanks so much peter, because the secretary made a lot of news today on a wide variety of topics. we talked about the china's hack of our diplomats, russia's bombing of ukraine's harbors, iran, and of course as you point out the american soldier, travis king, being held in north korea. >> with regard to private...
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how is the reception of yellen versus blinken >> it is good being here thank you for having me.here is a major difference with the two cabinet members for china. when it comes to blinken, he is a hawk and trying to control the economic china growth and trying to keep china's economic and political influence diminished yellen, on the other hand, is viewed as dovish in the chinese government the chinese state media, the last couple days is saying we welcome yellen she is pragmatic she is somebody we hope to work with because we hope to get economic trade and economic relations back on track. china's economy is in a weak position new numbers coming out you saw contraction pmi. it was at a 49 number up from may at 48.8. it is still weak and more concerning is the pmi services drop in from 57.1 to 53.9 china is looking for a corridor to open better relations with the united states. >> shaun, it is one thing to be more friendly with the biden administration and another for yellen to have influence over policy decisions how much sway does she actually have at the white house? >> that's
how is the reception of yellen versus blinken >> it is good being here thank you for having me.here is a major difference with the two cabinet members for china. when it comes to blinken, he is a hawk and trying to control the economic china growth and trying to keep china's economic and political influence diminished yellen, on the other hand, is viewed as dovish in the chinese government the chinese state media, the last couple days is saying we welcome yellen she is pragmatic she is...
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secretary of state antony blinken and the defense?in are meeting their australian counterparts in brisbane. they're holding talks on the aukus defence agreement, which will see the us supply nuclear submarine technology to australia. here in the uk, up to 20,000 rail workers in the rmt union are taking part in their latest strike today, in the long—running dispute over pay, jobs and working conditions. it's the second consecutive weekend of industrial action on the railways. just over half of the usual services are expected to run across the network. for the second saturday in a row, some of the ia affected train operators are running very limited services. after more than a year of industrial action, many people have got used to changing their plans or found other ways of travelling on strike days. but hospitality businesses say they're still feeling the impact. every time there is a strike day, we do see trade fall off a cliff in certain parts of the country, certainly towns and city centres. you know, the last week we've had sort o
secretary of state antony blinken and the defense?in are meeting their australian counterparts in brisbane. they're holding talks on the aukus defence agreement, which will see the us supply nuclear submarine technology to australia. here in the uk, up to 20,000 rail workers in the rmt union are taking part in their latest strike today, in the long—running dispute over pay, jobs and working conditions. it's the second consecutive weekend of industrial action on the railways. just over half of...
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blinken and wa this. g met in beijing last month. blinken was there, first visit by u.s. secretary of state in five years with the aim to reset relations and communication. we know that things are at an all-time low between the u.s. and china. janet yellen was there last week. john kerry heading there this weekend. and while there has been a frail of hope around this kipdiplomat activity, the plan to clear the way for talks between biden and xi jinping, but chinese hackers have breached some government agencies particularly the state department, and that is causing concern. microsoft and the white house have both confirmed the hack was a spying campaign aimed at sensitive information. and even then adding to the tension, nato this week issued a strongly worded communique saying that china challenged its interests, security and values, with its ambitious and coercive policies. beijing responded angrily saying it opposed any attempts by the military alliance to expand its footprint into the asia pacific region. so when you look at the landscape, yes, there is a great deal o
blinken and wa this. g met in beijing last month. blinken was there, first visit by u.s. secretary of state in five years with the aim to reset relations and communication. we know that things are at an all-time low between the u.s. and china. janet yellen was there last week. john kerry heading there this weekend. and while there has been a frail of hope around this kipdiplomat activity, the plan to clear the way for talks between biden and xi jinping, but chinese hackers have breached some...
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secretary of state antony blinken and the defense? meeting their australian counterparts in brisbane. they're holding talks on the aukus defence agreement, which will see the us supply nuclear submarine technology to australia. to west africa, where niger is grappling with the aftermath of a military coup. niger's democratically elected president, mohamed bazoum, was overthrown and detained as part of the coup this week. he was first elected to office in april 2021 in niger's first peaceful democratic transfer of power. us secretary of state antony blinken has called for mr bazoum's immediate release and the restoration of democratic order in the country. meanwhile, the man who led the coup, general abdourahmane tchiani, made this address on state tv. translation: the action of the (nsf is motivated by the sole desire - to preserve our beloved homeland in the face of the continuous deterioration of the security situation of our country. the fallen authorities have failed to give a real solution to the crisis and have provided poor eco
secretary of state antony blinken and the defense? meeting their australian counterparts in brisbane. they're holding talks on the aukus defence agreement, which will see the us supply nuclear submarine technology to australia. to west africa, where niger is grappling with the aftermath of a military coup. niger's democratically elected president, mohamed bazoum, was overthrown and detained as part of the coup this week. he was first elected to office in april 2021 in niger's first peaceful...
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secretary blinken said they're defensive without them.ans are firing artillery shares at a greater number than we produce in a month. the math won't last forever. i toured that plant in iowa, they want to increase production by 500%, the pentagon does. that's not going to happen overnight. i was in kyiv, bucha, i saw the war crimes. zelenskyy is right, we have to end this war quickly, give them the weapons necessary so the putin war crimes can end and ultimately save lives. >> i want to ask what's going on right now on capitol hill. there's a real struggle and a big question mark around the ndaa, the massive defense authorization bill that impacts basically everything and it definitely has to do with the nation's national security. it's coming out of rules, i don't want to get in the weeds but the reason why there's a big question around it is there are a slew of controversial amendments proposed and i believe many of them have gotten out of rules committee overnight. being offered by right wing republicans having to do with transgender r
secretary blinken said they're defensive without them.ans are firing artillery shares at a greater number than we produce in a month. the math won't last forever. i toured that plant in iowa, they want to increase production by 500%, the pentagon does. that's not going to happen overnight. i was in kyiv, bucha, i saw the war crimes. zelenskyy is right, we have to end this war quickly, give them the weapons necessary so the putin war crimes can end and ultimately save lives. >> i want to...
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then sarkt blinken uninvited to beijing asking, you know, to go to get some con educations.l got patted on the head and a working group and saw yellen, secretary of the treasury bowing in kowtowing in front of the communist party leaders now you have john kerry going and not sure what they've done to merit a trip and hacked and knew a lot of advance things about secretary blinken trip's we have the spy base in chiewb. what have they endoto deserve multiples coming to bow before the emperor? >> they hacked into the e-mail account through the government e-mail system i believe to the commerce secretary and others getting sensitive information you mention the spy balloon yet from blinken to yellen now kerry we're going hat and hand. and we're talking to them too morgan about things like chiement change they've seen no indication of having any interest we want you to shut down and do something about emissions but you're opening coal power plant every two weeks. when you're talking about to your biggest enemy about things they don't care about, what do you get from that? >> not o
then sarkt blinken uninvited to beijing asking, you know, to go to get some con educations.l got patted on the head and a working group and saw yellen, secretary of the treasury bowing in kowtowing in front of the communist party leaders now you have john kerry going and not sure what they've done to merit a trip and hacked and knew a lot of advance things about secretary blinken trip's we have the spy base in chiewb. what have they endoto deserve multiples coming to bow before the emperor?...
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we continue to grovel at the chinese asking for meetings with them, yellen, blinken, et cetera, pleasee these meetings with us. it makes us look weak in the eyes of the world. maria: what should be the response? the white house leaks this here and there reports that they're going to put limitations on investing in companies that are producing chips and quantum. the house select committee on china sent letters to four u.s. venture capital firms yesterday, demanding information about the firm's investments in a.i., chip makers and quantum computing companies in china, congressman. but you know, i notice sequoia wasn't on the list to get a letter, se . it's one of the premier venture capital firms in america. yet major chinese individual was running it for the longest time. he was actually a member of the communist party and se ch sequo, this is separate. he doesn't run sequoyah u.s. look how many investors they've been able to get into chinese companies and big money investors in america pretty much funding the expansion of the ccp. >> not only that, but funding the expansion of the ccp
we continue to grovel at the chinese asking for meetings with them, yellen, blinken, et cetera, pleasee these meetings with us. it makes us look weak in the eyes of the world. maria: what should be the response? the white house leaks this here and there reports that they're going to put limitations on investing in companies that are producing chips and quantum. the house select committee on china sent letters to four u.s. venture capital firms yesterday, demanding information about the firm's...
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blinken says that negotiations are in progress to bring them home.tween the us and china, and as us treasury secretary janet yellen gets ready to visit beijing. our asia business reporter monica miller has a preview. the two sides have a lot to discuss including us concerns about a new chinese counter—espionage law that went into effect onjuly i. the us has american and other foreign companies in the country, could those penalties apply for regular business activities? ms yellen is also expected to meet with china�*s new economic team and expected to press upon them that washington is still committed to defending human rights and its own national security interest but she has to straddle an interesting balance here because she is also expected to try and find common ground with beijing on things like climate change and that the stress facing many emerging economies. a ban on the sale of us—based micron technology memory chips would probably be one of the issues at the top of her list and this trip comes at a time when two weeks after the secretary of
blinken says that negotiations are in progress to bring them home.tween the us and china, and as us treasury secretary janet yellen gets ready to visit beijing. our asia business reporter monica miller has a preview. the two sides have a lot to discuss including us concerns about a new chinese counter—espionage law that went into effect onjuly i. the us has american and other foreign companies in the country, could those penalties apply for regular business activities? ms yellen is also...
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blber attack before blinken still went to grovel anyway. so why didn't blinken postpone his trip this time, as he did after the chinese spy balloos t the answer is obvious. americans saw with their ownous eyes the balloon flying over. but a cyber attack., i thinkd they thought they could conceal that until after blinken had arrived back from his chinesebaf meetings. and when confronted with those,f inconvenient facts, of course, the buffoons who communicate fo r claimed it's no big deal. >> what does it say to you that this was happening just as secretary of state blinken was heading to beijing g just? don't beijing i don't want to get ahead of the fbi investigation. i would just say a couplade thi things. ng first of all, our networks are attacked every single day by cyber actors, state and non-state actors all around the world. it is not uncommon for some of those state actors russia, iran, north korea, china to be a part of that process. and i don't know that p it's helpful h to try to read to much into the timing of thisg of attack with
blber attack before blinken still went to grovel anyway. so why didn't blinken postpone his trip this time, as he did after the chinese spy balloos t the answer is obvious. americans saw with their ownous eyes the balloon flying over. but a cyber attack., i thinkd they thought they could conceal that until after blinken had arrived back from his chinesebaf meetings. and when confronted with those,f inconvenient facts, of course, the buffoons who communicate fo r claimed it's no big deal....
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us secretary of state antony blinken is now in australia in his latest tour of the pacific.sues were prominent. his visit is viewed in part as an effort to counter china's influence in the region. live now to matt brazil, senior fellow at the jamestown foundation in washington and is the co—author of the book: chinese communist espionage, an intelligence primer. thank you so much forjoining us on the programme. it seems like the us is trying to show its commitment to the south pacific after china targeted the region with its built—in root initiative. the region with its built-in root initiative.— root initiative. yes, that is true, root initiative. yes, that is true. the _ root initiative. yes, that is true, the initiative - root initiative. yes, that is true, the initiative of - root initiative. yes, that is i true, the initiative of course is wide—ranging and it involves quite a bit of money and one of the places that the secretary visited on this trip, tonga, finds itself in debt. to china to a significant degree so i think the americans are looking at the lessons, i have
us secretary of state antony blinken is now in australia in his latest tour of the pacific.sues were prominent. his visit is viewed in part as an effort to counter china's influence in the region. live now to matt brazil, senior fellow at the jamestown foundation in washington and is the co—author of the book: chinese communist espionage, an intelligence primer. thank you so much forjoining us on the programme. it seems like the us is trying to show its commitment to the south pacific after...
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you mentioned yellen and antony blinken meeting but there are no direct between the u.s.na on the security side while tensions around taiwan and south china sea surveillance cyber, all continue to grow. these are the two most powerful countries in the world so all of us should be concerned about that. having said that, i believe biden and xi jinping will be on the sidelines in san francisco in the fall and i think both of those leaders want full on the relationship, there's economic interdependence and want to ensure it doesn't break and that's why talk about de- risking in the u.s. and not decoupling so the direction of travel and relationship is poor but so far the relationship continues to hold up relatively well. >> is there one thing you would recommend to the u.s. government to do right now, make sure we are safe and any challenges but also keep the relationship as an bad, as good as possible? >> it should be focused on competing effectively without unnecessarily containing chi chinese. i love the chips act, the fact that the united states is finally spending a lot
you mentioned yellen and antony blinken meeting but there are no direct between the u.s.na on the security side while tensions around taiwan and south china sea surveillance cyber, all continue to grow. these are the two most powerful countries in the world so all of us should be concerned about that. having said that, i believe biden and xi jinping will be on the sidelines in san francisco in the fall and i think both of those leaders want full on the relationship, there's economic...