vice president blinman here. commissioner thomas here. commissioner torres , president and commissioner wong here. commissioner. president camino will be here shortly. the next i'm sorry and commissioners falzon and perez are excused. the next agenda item is number two, which is general public comment. do we have anybody who would like to make any comments for items that are not on tonight's agenda? everyone's. three no, nothing on zoom. okay. no public comment for this item. all right. we'll close public comment and we'll move on to number three, which is approval of the minutes for august 15th, 2023 commission meeting. do we have a motion to approve the minutes for august 15th, 2023? so moved? and is there a second second, is there any public comment on our meeting minutes from that date? no public comment for this item . all right. we'll close public comment and we can have a vote vice president blinman. i commissioner thomas i. commissioner torres. aye. and commissioner wong. i all right. the meeting minutes have been approved for the

vice president blinman here. commissioner thomas here. commissioner torres , president and commissioner wong here. commissioner. president camino will be here shortly. the next i'm sorry and commissioners falzon and perez are excused. the next agenda item is number two, which is general public comment. do we have anybody who would like to make any comments for items that are not on tonight's agenda? everyone's. three no, nothing on zoom. okay. no public comment for this item. all right. we'll close public comment and we'll move on to number three, which is approval of the minutes for august 15th, 2023 commission meeting. do we have a motion to approve the minutes for august 15th, 2023? so moved? and is there a second second, is there any public comment on our meeting minutes from that date? no public comment for this item . all right. we'll close public comment and we can have a vote vice president blinman. i commissioner thomas i. commissioner torres. aye. and commissioner wong. i all right. the meeting minutes have been approved for the

okay so vice president blinman. yeah i'm happy to. just personally, you know, they provided some the attorneys provided some questions for us to consider here. and one, it's the more powerful version. but so there's basically two grounds for suspension. and then on grounds for revocation. so there's like three steps at. and the first is to me and i'll just answer my questions and, and i'll put forward a motion. did the charging party provide or prove by a preponderance of evidence that the permit holder failed to comply with their approved security plan and good neighbor policy? that that was is that was very clear to me that they did fail to do that. so i move that the charging party proved by preponderance of evidence that the permit holder failed to comply with their security policy and good neighbor policy in violation of section 106, 0.210.1. a four of the police code. that's a motion second question for our counsel do we vote on these individually or all at once, or do we vote as they come up one at a time? individual lee indivi

hi, vice president blinman. hi, commissioner thomas. hi, commissioner torres. hi. and commissioner wong, i. hey. the motion passes. okay. thank you. all right, we are moving on to agenda item number nine. this item is to allow commissioners to introduce agenda items for future consideration and to make announcements. i don't want to beleaguer anything, but i just want to make one request to staff that we have an agenda item. the chat challenges of bonafide identification and the variations that are coming up and how to best assess that for permit holders is within our purview so that they can do their jobs correctly. we you know, it would be great if that is ben van houten. i think that's a good idea. but that's kind of. yeah, he can we can ask them to ask him. okay. so maybe to ask ben van houten about that . okay that's a good they were going to ask him anyway. it was going to happen anyways. we're going to voluntold him. yeah okay. commissioners, anything else? i just want to say thank you to the commission staff who worked on this and thank the staff community

hi, vice president blinman. hi, commissioner thomas. hi, commissioner torres. hi. and commissioner wong, i. hey. the motion passes. okay. thank you. all right, we are moving on to agenda item number nine. this item is to allow commissioners to introduce agenda items for future consideration and to make announcements. i don't want to beleaguer anything, but i just want to make one request to staff that we have an agenda item. the chat challenges of bonafide identification and the variations that are coming up and how to best assess that for permit holders is within our purview so that they can do their jobs correctly. we you know, it would be great if that is ben van houten. i think that's a good idea. but that's kind of. yeah, he can we can ask them to ask him. okay. so maybe to ask ben van houten about that . okay that's a good they were going to ask him anyway. it was going to happen anyways. we're going to voluntold him. yeah okay. commissioners, anything else? i just want to say thank you to the commission staff who worked on this and thank the staff community