what led you to move beyond blk simple desegregation to economic development, to starting the ees blackeconomic union, setting ua these offices all over the country, traveling through the k deep south in a bus with other professional athletes talking to small -- black small business ah people in georgia, alabama, tennessee? what led i you to that sense th that was the direction things had to go into? >> well, it was understanding that people had to get off of their butts. regardless of what the to condition, use intelligence and labor as they could to deliver a themselves. we couldn'tny depend on a government or corporate america or anyone else. so i was always a person that ib advocated economic development because america is a capitalist society. it's based on economics. if you don't use economics in your community, your community will never grow. the jewish community in this country and the world has proven s minority and apply the right principals and emancipate yourself. i thought the african-american d community had to apply itself, have the greatest community, the safest communit