>> a clean spending bll at 38 billion higherhan what we promised amercans in 2011, no. i would not. again, we are lying to the children about what the truth of what is in the bill. it is 38 billion more than what we said we would do. and we don't even have the courage to be honest with the american people about what we are doing the want strong words, senator. thank you so much. >> see latr. neil: on now to austan goolsbee. he makes a lot of good points. but theockery thawe keep raisin the spending. someone has to stop the smear ground. >> when he talks about the long-run fiscal challenges facing theountry, he really does have this as his major focus. many others in the republican pay congeal arund this, where tom coburn was involved in the debate and discussions about the grand bargain. if we would've had that discussion about how do we address long-term spending and long-term revenue and would be a healthy disussion which no other economy in the world that i know of. neil: he did just what senator corn said, the burden is on the back of our children and grandchildren. america dese