. >> mayor bloberg entered into that discussion today. and he said quote, any candidate without says we can cut taxes and balance the budget is either delusional or dissembling. so which is it? >> well, we're lowering rates, and closing loopholes in a revenue neutral way so i don't know if that fits his description. >> but his point is that really w all the problems confronting the country, this is not a time to talk about cutting taxes, it's a time to start talking about how we're going pay for things. >> it's a time to talk about economic growth and jobs. and if we can have a simpler, fairer, flatter tax system, one that doesn't expire every year or two, i believe that we can get the kind of job growth and investment we need to get the country going again. >> one of the goals of your corporate tax reform will be to reduce the tax burden on companies from overseas investment. critics say look, that will encourage these companies to go overseas. you say that it will make our tax code more efficient. you can explain why? >> the u.s. is the