federal workers at nav engineering station in philadelphia are taking their furlough days in one week bloch'salify for unemployment benefits. with more on this, gretchen hamel, executive director for public notice. what is going on here? >> here we were trying to save the government money because the government had not done its job, it had not been budgeting, finding ways to cut spending, and it was going to have to enact sequester which was going to cause furloughs. here we are completely defeating the purpose. it would be like if i went on at night and decided to cut beats out of my diet but in a cupcake. it makes no sense whatsoever. gerri: i love the food analogy. so, how are they doing this as a practical matter? their schedules are all different. >> yes. schedules are different, and they are able to, you know, try to block these furloughs and work the system to where they can get a we got a time and be able to file for unemployment benefits in order to make up for some of the money they're losing . this by whether they're working for the government or being furloughed, they're still tak