bloch? >> that was not true. >> when obama care passed, again, the single biggest change in american healthcare in the last decade, we were told if you like you plan you can keep you fine. was that true? >> no, sir. it was not. >> and of course, as we started here, what obama care passed, we were told premiums were going to decline. again, just nice and again for the record. did that happen mr. bloch? >> no, did not. >> for everyone, premiums in the exchange out of the exchange, single, individual market, employer-sponsored plan, everybody, costs went up. is that right? >> it did. but the cost of the premiums went up. however, with the subsidy, it wasn't felt by those that were part of the exchange. >> we think we will i do when this bill passed back in 2010 mr. bloch? >> congressman, i don't want to speculate as to what the intent was. >> you don't have to, because the architect of, mr. gruber, said this. jonathan gruber. mit professor, new york times of the architect of obama care, going t