i sat down with journalist and blogger jeff jarvis, author of "public parts: how sharing the digital e work and live." jeff jarvis, welcome. >> thank you, howard. >> the incredible outpouring of tributes about this passing of steve jobs, around-the-clock coverage, the newspaper stories, the special news magazine editions. is there any level on which this is a little over the top? >> it's hard to be too hyperbolic about steve jobs -- >> because? >> to consider that he is our gutenberg, our galileo, our da vinci, our instein, our edison. and we can find over-the-top metaphors work for him because he changed technology, he made it accessible to so many people. he enabled everyone to create things. he changed business and how it operates not just technology but music and media. he changed retail, he changed entertainment, he enabled a culture -- he didn't invent computer, he didn't invent the internet, but he did make them so easy to use that we are all creators. he's a big deal. >> now of course it's apple that did these things, but steve jobs is apple. or the creative force behind apple