that started an then, from there, i received a call from a large church across the hudson river in bloomfieldnew jersey. that was a multiple staffed church. also, because of the fact that i was one of the few people with this kind of training that stayed in the perish and didn't go into full time counseling, i was in demand, to be frank. >> why did you stay in the perish? >> i wanted to if where the action with us. you could do so much from the parrish. you didn't have power, but you had influence. we were just trying natural things and put in situations to meet the people and i had an invitation to go down and meet the president of the united states one time, it was nixon. regardless of people's politics, that was quite moving. >> i would think. >> we're talking with dr. james emmerson. we'll talk about his life and book. stay with us. >>> dr. james emmerson is with us. i want to talk about following the thread and how you got to san francisco. you said that on break that growing up, you were a guide at stanford and took people around. that gave you an incite on how to relate to people? >> y

tv in 1964 during the republican national convention and sara was just a 13-year-old schoolgirl, bloomfield hills. and she was awed to see a prominent woman on the national political scene, a woman from michigan, a republican, elly peterson because in those days you didn't see that very often. in fact you never saw that. alley peterson was first in just about everything she did for the republican party and for women in politics in michigan. sara fitzgerald was kind of there at the very beginning when elly peterson was just hitting her stride and sara fitzgerald went on to a very illustrious career in journalism herself at "the washington post" and a number of other newspapers. she took on the assignment of writing a book i think is very very important. and that is a biography of elly peterson, who was somebody who came out of nowhere in the mid-50s, a secretary in an office in eaton county adjacent to lansing and onward and upward over the next 10 or 12 years became a national republican female figure. sara fitzgerald has re-created all of this in her book. she has a great job and we are so

in bloomfield, new jersey, the automatic calls went out to break the news. >> halloween activities haveeen canceled for this evening. halloween has been rescheduled for friday, november 4th, 2011. >> reporter: still, some children would not be deterred. trick or treating at a new haunt. the mall. >> i like it outside a little better. >> i'm okay with it. >> i'm happy to be in the mall. >> reporter: initially, 3 million people were without power. initially 3 million were without power as a result of this storm. that number is now down to about 2 million. diane? >> a lot of people out there wrestling with their power. i don't note about moving halloween to november 4th, but thanks to you, linsey. >>> and now we turn to a turbulent day of politics. your voice, your vote. at the center of it, herman cain. as this day began, he came under fire, facing news reports about allegations of sexual harassment in his past. as the day ends, he's been challenging the press, singing a hymn and swinging back. abc's jon charl hkarl has the s. >> reporter: he's the center of attention now. herman cain is

we go next to bloomfield, conn.. caller: my question is why are they releasing this? he only wants to sell a book. why would he detail operations so that the enemy would know what the fbi is doing question of these are people working to defend your country. host: what do you think the motivation was for making this transparent? guest: i think they trust me to tell a straight story. the head of all this said he thinks people should know how their money is being spent. there is an additional component from the national security budget that is not revealed in the budget figures. there are a lot of funny stories. in philadelphia, they have to bug a mafia front that was an electronics store. they did not want to go in the back because it could be booby trapped. they have to go in the front. the tacops agents rode a city bus. they drove in front of the establishment. they pretended the bus had broken down. they pick the lock. nobody from the bar across the street could see them. the bus went around a corner while they were putting the bugs in. the bus came back. there were

. >> in michigan they lived in bloomfield hills or gross point. >> and they drove to their summer homes. they didn't get there in private jets. >> because they had to pay 50%, 60%, 70% in taxes. they paid a lot in taxes yet lived a great life, didn't they? my dad built spark plugs at general motors. other dads, moms, nobody begrudged them too much because they built the factories, gave us jobs and entered into an agreement with the working class. this was the agreement, lawrence. if you, the working people, if you work hard and we prosper, you prosper. they changed it to you work hard, we prosper, now you lose your job. and it -- they totally flushed the american dream down the toilet and patriotic people around the country are standing up against it saying they want it back. they want -- no one would begrudge, you know, you if you built us a factory and create jobs and want to have your summer home on cape cod, go do what you people do out there. right? because at least when we were growing up our dads could send the kids to college, had a roof over everyone's head mind dad, spark plug

father who worked for gm was transferred several times and places to rochester, new york, and to the bloomfield hills area. but sara's older sister sue fitzgerald is a graduate of flint central high school. so there's a big michigan connection there. and the big thing about our speaker tonight, our author is that sara fitzgerald was the first female editor-in-chief of the michigan daily. that was really something. so she was a pioneer in journalism for women as an undergraduate in college, and it kind of fits right into what i think she sensed when she first saw elly peterson. and if i'm not mistaken, i think it was on tv in 1964 during the republican national convention. and sara was just a 13-year-old schoolgirl, bloom field hills. and she was awed to see a prominent woman on the national political scene, a woman from michigan, a republican, elly peterson. because in those days you didn't see that very often. in fact, you never saw that. and elly peterson was first in just about everything she did. for the republican party and for women in politics in michigan. and sara fitzgerald was kind of

bloomfield hills, michigan, great privilege. public schools have vast resources. in that same geographic area, great poverty. so the question is with people that would like to see change, how do you make that structural change? because property values are tied into educational quality. even if people say let's redistribute money at a statewide level which would be more fair than just at a local level, how do you do that when people won't want their house values to decrease? i think there's a lot of people who would like to see change, but their own interests are affected, and they have to hesitate. >> their interests are already being impacted. you know, when we don't raise an educated population throughout, that we are all going to be suffering. and so, again, it's that connection that people have to make with the lives of others who may not have the privileges that they have. but i think we've got to retrain our thought. and many of those people in those very nice communities are suffering now. so we have to ask them do we want, are they willing to go back to pu

with that as the context, we are going to go to telephone calls beginning with bloomfield hills, michigan. democrat. good morning, terri, you're on the air. caller: i notice that a lot of the states now are trying to make voting very difficult and they're requiring photo i.d.'s and i'm wondering if you are working on that. it seems a shame that somebody that's born in alabama but now is living in illinois and you're 75 years old, there's no way for you to get a copy of your birth certificate is gross injustice. another thing i want to ask you and that is there is -- excuse me -- i lived in florida and so rubio was our senator. now just on the news this morning it was brought to our attention, he was saying i guess he had his parents had suffered under castro but it came out that he left and they left in 1956 prior to castro even being in power there. do you have any facility where you challenge things like that? you know, it seems like if you tell a lie long enough people believe things and i as a young voter find that very disconcerting. i wish there was some place where we could go wher

let's go to telephone calls beginning with bloomfield hills, michigan. kerry, the democrat. >> caller: i had a couple questions i would like to ask you. i noticed a lot of things now are trying to make things very difficult. and requiring federal ladies. in the morning -- federal ids. i wonder if you're working on that. it seems a shame that someone who was born in alabama but now is living in illinois and a 75 years old, now we've been able to even get a copy of your birth certificate. it feels in justice. another thing that i want to ask you is, and that is, i lived in florida and so marco rubio is our center. just on the news this morning it was brought to attention he was saying i guess that he had, his parents had suffered under castro, but it came out that he left, and they left in 1956, prior to castro even being in power. do you have any facility to challenge things like that? you know, it seems like if you tell a lie long enough people believe things. and i as a young voter find it very disconcerting. i wish there was someplace where we could go