fox news senior correspondent geraldo rivera and former nypd detective bo deitl. before i say anything, my level of anger over this stupidity. we have limited police resources. we have crack dealers. we have heroin dealers. we have rapists, and cops, i don't blame them. they are told they have to go out and arrest people, there are complaints made over a freaking cigarette, geraldo. that is beyond stupid to me. >> this was a chump charge. this man never should have died as a result of this encounter. i also believe -- i've waded through two demonstrations to get here just now. i hugged the cops. i love you guys. i love you for everything you do. >> you walk around like a rock star, you and bo. >> but not the predominantly -- and had been in the bronx, this officer would have been indicted. >> disagree. i want to see the evidence, bo deitl. >> listen to me, i've done this thing, many times. i'm 5'8" and i've had to take guys down 6'2", 6'3" i've had to take guys down scores of times. problem here is he was still talking when he was down. if it was a chokehold, he w

. >>> first, joining me now with much more reaction former nypd detective bo deitl. bo, let me start with you. i don't think in all my years that i ever witnessed police officers turning their back on the mayor like this. i talked to an officer earlier today and he said, well, the mayor turned his back on us first. what's your reaction? >> well, you know, i have the same feelings as those officers. you got to remember, sean, i was around in the early '70s. thirteen cops assassinated one year, 11 cops the next year. curry and boneti. i could go on and on. i want to say right out from the beginning my heart's to the families of those two officers. i share the grief that they have. and i'm sure every cop. now, i didn't really want to polarize this but the environment was made by this mayor. and i have so much respect for our police commissioner, bratton, but this mayor made the environment with the statements he made and letting them do what they wanted to do during these demonstrations, spitting on cops, pushing them, stand down. and it went all over. and this nut, let'

. >> here with reaction to the mayor's war on words, former nypd detective bo deitl, president of thetitute of the 21st century -- can you point to any specific evidence that racism is involved in either case? >> well, there's a pattern -- >> i asked is there any specific evidence. >> in many cases black communities are targeted. >> i didn't ask that. this is important. de blasio said centuries of racism has brought us to think day. give me any evidence that there's any race involvement in either case. >> we don't know specific. but what we doe know in terms of criminal justice policy, established many studies that black men are more likely to get arrested than white men -- >> michael brown robbed a store, tried to grab a cop's gun and charged an officer. is that racist? >> we don't know it's racist, but we think it's unjustified. when black men are involved in episodes with police officers, it ends up tragically. we have situations where racial profiling -- >> -- >> we had a special the other day a young man stopped and frisked 100 times. how would you feel if you were stopped and fr