that way, or some other way, a condition that we work with planning, maybe we come back to the boar board -- >> sorry to interrupt you, with my president, that it is cleaner and the members of the public that came here, get that pound of flesh, to be honest. that way, it is before this body, rather than releasing it over to planning. how long would that take you. not that we are there yet -- how long would that be? >> that might be more of a question for planning. maybe the architects can come up and talk to you that. >> the primary question is one, excuse me, are you more flexib flexible? and are the windows important to you, and is the current door treatment important to you? >> i'm sorry, did we get ahead of ourselves? >> i can come back and talk. >> is more appropriate to hear the appellants, and then we can talk about this wrap up and make our decision. >> thank you. >> he is the appellant. >> at this point were going to hear from the planning department. >> welcome back. >> scott sanchez planning department. we respectfully request you uphold the planning apartment's decision to the