you have to make an appeal to the board of supervisors or you're wasting everyone's time the board of supervisors they believe they can make an appeal on their low income nodes. so the answer shouldn't be mingle someone asks about this issue it's dwps responsibility to recommend the option. we should be clear about what the other options are list in the memo. all the homeownership's don't need to pay the conversion fee. you can ask for a delay in paying our fees until the map approval occurs. they should with in one waiver. there should be a better process. this is incredibly frustrating to see people confused come on to the board >> supervisor campos. >> i want to i'll to the lady the appellant because i don't know that i know this should not are been handled this way. we don't have the authority to do what you're thinking we should do. this is sad how it's been handled because it is a waste of your time and you know, i just want to apologize for that >> is there a way that we can get a refund and apply for a deferral since that's not clear and a sure. bruce with the city and county

and the appeals to the board of supervisors. >> the permit holder wants to speak? >> i am here on behalf of the permit holder tonight and i would echo mr. sanchez's comments and remind the board that how or why it continued this case, back in july and immediately prior to the hearing, i think that the day before the hearing we received a letter or an e-mail stating that he thought that there would be a no build condition on the subdivision until the map had been approved or denied in the final form. and because that is very clearly material there was no hearing date schedule and the idea was that we would, that we would wait until the subdivision map was final and that any appeal relating to the subdivision map would be resolved by the board of supervisors and then we will come back here on at peel for the building permit and when he issued his tentative subdivision map approval in september, we then agreed that we would come back here for this hearing, that the matter would be resolved and if you heard from mr. sanchez and mr. stores both, and there is not a furthe

. >> and it's historical in nature because we got the board of supervisors vote 11 to zero. which is historical in nature because a lot of times they don't agree; right? which is loophole right but they all agree on this one. we thank the board of supervisors for that 11 zero vote and ed lee for preventing the project going forward. but that's today and i want to go back 20 years because prior to 20 years there was a map with a vision pete rodriguez which we'll hear more about later and he started the mexican museum in the district of san francisco. but 20 years ago it was an elected official who i have had the pleasure of working with on many occasions on doing many things in our community who at the time was the supervisor jim gonzales who was here today who at that time, made sure we got this piece of land to build the mexican museum and thank you, mr. gonzales and at the time there was unfortunately, he couldn't be here - the bells are ringing but we had manual gonzales and he was the president of the commission so i want to honor him bike like i honored mr. gonzales two

of supervisor farrell. and on behalf of staupg and on behalf of sxhimz and on above the board of supervisors >> and are there any more business before the board. >> no mr. president, that concludes the business. >> ladies and gentlemen, we're . >> good morning everyone. welcome to the san francisco board of supervisors budget and finance committee meeting for november 20, 2013. i am supervisor farrell and i will be chairing this committee and joined by supervisor avalos and we will joined by eric mar and i want to thank sfgtv and as well as the clerk of the committee linda wong -- sorry, madam clerk do we have any announcements. >> yes mr. chair. please silence all cell phones and complete speaker cards and documents to be part of the file should be submitted to the clerk and will be on the november 26 agenda unless otherwise stated. >> great. can you call items one and two together. >> item one is sale of general obligation bonds - general hospital improvement not to exceed approximately $210 million and item two is appropriation - general hospital improvement general obligation bonds fy 2013-2014 authorizi

thank you >> thank you. >> item 8 review of the past weeks board of supervisors and board of appeals there was no historic report. >> i'm here to give you the board of supervisors activities. at the language committee they heard supervisor avalos they heard the ordinance and recommended modifications. it replaces the parking with parking controls and a uses offer a 5 foot height bonus and institute a buffer. if i recall the most controversial aspect of this ordinance was prohibiting the oc ds of 5 hundred feet of an existing oc. it was to require the additional use authorization instead of an out right prosecution. the commissioners recommendations were put into the ordinance and asked this revised ordinance be 235r9d to the board of supervisors. he split the file the other version requires a cu within a thousand foot buffer but wants to tax and they moved it forward. also at the land use committee was supervisor avaloss ordinance to have a report to the board of supervisors vaulting the current controls for medical dispenses. the planning staff informed them we've started the work be

certainly i probably looked you for your leadership to help the rest of us who are also on the board of supervisors to bring in people that are interested and i'm going to say that i don't want to feel like it should be only you. i'm part of the board of supervisors and i certainly could have done much more than i did. i concur with envy colleagues it would have been nice to have more diversity in the applicants. i want to take some responsibility for that, too. so if my colleagues have a suggestion in terms of how to move forward >> if i may supervisor. i have to say that one of the things that i thought was important in terms of bringing this item forward was to simply put it in the public eye, if you will, that this is happening. you know, and we collectively voted for this we have to decide the best approach. the way i envision it is you have 4 amazing individuals and i think that there's a role for them and it can happen through the board or through the mayor, you know, and if there's a desire to sort of spread the word even more that's a good thing. my hope the only thing i hope is more peopl

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certainly i probably looked you for your leadership to help the rest of us who are also on the board of supervisors to bring in people that are interested and i'm going to say that i don't want to feel like it should be only you. i'm part of the board of supervisors and i certainly could have done much more than i did. i concur with envy colleagues it

francisco police department remains the same although the director ruskin mentioned that the board of supervisors are staffing united states we have about one hundred officers but the officers are discharged through the muni. numbers of arrests in the police department are way up across the board >> the number of - i don't have it handy but i can get it for you. no, but that's worth mentioning dan referenced with the people on the bus were so e.r. grossed in the technology of their cell phones they didn't notice the gunman. we want to tell me to pay attention to your cell phone usage. right so david's question what about the secondary market in cell phone its way too easy to move a cell phone. that's why i said you wouldn't walk down the street carrying cash. in the the first time we've actually made more robbery arrests because people prefer to traffic in cell phones than drugs it's a secondary item. so the question was don't the new apple technology the lock that makes the brick phone contribute to that. there's so many other cell phones out there but we encourage any marker of any cell phone t

of calls. so if we want to continue legislation i'd be happy to do that >> mr. controller. >> supervisors ben rolling fold. it's in the privy of the board to continue the contract important that discussion. that kind of agreement with the sheriff's department is with the appropriation of the fund balance and ultimately the board of supervisors makes the final decision. so when that proimths come down forward the pot the sheriff's department will propose how to spend that money and the board can a attach conditions to it. so if the appropriation come forward in next year's budget that would really be the final momentum for the board to roll speak to how those funds are to be spent. so a verbal commitment from the sheriff's department motive be okay but the ultimate decision is with the board of supervisors >> supervisor breed. >> i think one of the confidence we had was that many of the families that are visiting or paying the fees are low income community. so i know the proposal is to obtain more of a percentage to the sheriff's department in order to support some of the costs associated with the department but if there's an interest in

housing authority indicated they wanted a waiver and we said it has to be brought before the board of supervisors for approval. we made no recommendation for the approval but we did make a recommendation that this issue come before the board of supervisors, so we consider approval of the proposed resolution to be a policy matter for the board of supervisors. >> okay. thank you mr. rose. colleagues any questions? mr. avalos. >> in your opinion do you think it would be wise for the government to move $80 million into the defense budget from the human and health budgets and for hud to build houses around the country. in your opinion do you think that is a wise move? >> mr. chairman, supervisor in my opinion there are a lot of things in the federal government i would like to look at but i don't want to make a decision at this point. >> it's a small part of the federal budget and we can request that. >> mr. rose are you saying it's a matter for that? >> maybe the federal government needs a budget analyst. >> i don't disagree. colleagues any other questions? at this point we will open it up for public

the board of supervisors has discretion you have discretion that goes beyond everyone because of the charter. that everyone who approves an office allocation has the discretion to say no. and i have been in the hearing room in the past with planning commissions have said no and to office development. it don't matter how much their entitled they're not entitled thank you very much >> ms. hesitating take care i have a question. >> yes. i'm trying to understand your concerns isn't that true the fees will be paid. >> yes. because the fee didn't take a look at the price escalation of the land. >> i get that. >> and the land is what the value is to the funding for affordable howard's but but that wasn't take into account in prop m. >> by the time prop m was on the ballot we had label mechanisms in place for the fees. it was a instructional to get that. we have an entire fee structure that's predicted on observe building and supply of transit and a affordable housing and a childcare has to be there when it opens. that law preceded prop m. i understand that but i'm saying to you >> you're co

development of the 3450u78 so ladies and gentlemen, mayor lee and distinguished members of the board of supervisors and distinguished city commissioners and fellow members of the board of mexican members and past and present staff. in addition i want to thank our volunteers former supervisor jim gonzales and former mayor willie brown. and christina and assistant district attorney. 20 years ago in san francisco with support of the mayor's office and the board of supervisors and the redevelopment agency we dedicated this land to be able to share this great land to be fully realized but us by 20 fourteen. and today with the hard work of many, many people over the last decades we have a dream. our future homes here at the justice department i jury the jewish museum to the right and the museum to my right the other museums and we have a center of the arts and to the west the filipino center and the san francisco museum. together we have per certified and this will soon be complete with the edition of the mexican museum. i hope i don't forget remember in weddings the only people that don't forget with ar

certainly in the kaiser instance, at the level at the board of supervisors and hsf in making decisions about what kind of carrier purchasing accident i think transparency is great to help you decide how much you're going to pay. there's ordinances that i have to make sure to insure that the board of supervisors can see that. it's important to realize that there's different claims. something protected by a contract clause that's separate from the trade secret argument. if you're bound by a non disclosure agreement, the trade secret argument, you're subject to braech of contract if you break that. that's a supplement of that. if you remove the gag clause, you still have the trade secret argument, so you have to deal with them. i think you want to inject some transparent -- the most amount of transparency at the level of the board of supervisors and hsf and establish what you think is absolutely necessary for patients to find out as well. >> i think that's a great example of how we did bring it to the budget and the board of supervisors and i think what has occurred is bet he transparency

that have made incredible accomplishments lately we passed the due process for all ordinance board of supervisorsping) he's a 12th grader he is was an stent day participate at marshall and it's now a part of the college came back program. he volunteered when it left marshall as a fifth grader he's currently a senior and continues to support marshall as a college bound ambassador. congratulations (clapping) okay. next i would call up an eight grader she demonstrates a willingness to help this is very rare to see she's a social leader. congratulations (clapping) next up i'd like to a call up the next person a 12th grader. he entered last summer at the media recently that was honored by president obama as a youth jobs and champion canal. he helped the media relevance team for his own generation as well as creating mark ups. he's interested in taking his technical experience into the field of health

that have made incredible accomplishments lately we passed the due process for all ordinance board of supervisorsping) he's a 12th grader he is was an stent day participate at marshall and it's now a part of the college came back program. he volunteered when it left marshall as a fifth grader he's currently a senior and continues to support marshall as a college bound ambassador. congratulations (clapping) okay. next i would call up an eight grader she demonstrates a willingness to help this is very rare to see she's a social

francisco budget and legislative analyst recommended that the housing authority submit to the board of supervisors a request of waiver in lieu of taxes from 1991 through 2013. waiver of these payments does provide the housing authority with additional resources to address our enormous challenging needs to maintain our properties and provide services to our low income residents. i am happy to answer any questions that you may have. >> thank you very much. colleagues any questions? okay. mr. rose can we go to the budget analyst report please. >> yes mr. chairman. members of the committee on page 10 of the report which was indicated by the department the proposed payment in lieu of taxes to the san francisco housing authority for the period listed totals about 12.1 million that is shown in table one of page of our report. under the cooperative agreement outstanding payments are not subject to interest or penalties. we point out on page 11 of the report out of 10 housing authority surveyed throughout the country four obtained waiveers for payments to remove taxes and others made payments to local gove

the department staff recommends the approval to the board of supervisors for this contracted based on the following items it's a designated historic resource under article 10 of the planning code and after reviewing this the department finds this contract to be appropriate. this concludes my presentation. as the project sponsors for 1019 market street we have two for those projects. i'll give the mike to them and also a gentleman from the assessors office if you have any additional questions >> commissioner and mr. fry thank you very much for me being here i'm the owners representative for 1019 market. i want to thank for the work you folks have done we're proud to be part of it. we've done projects in other cities. the miles act is very important and i'm available for any questions. ask me anything you want >> thank you commissioners. we have one more sponsor? >> yeah. >> i'm greg i had a presentation prepared but time is getting short i'll be happy to be available for questions. when my wife and i bought this property it's an overwhelming project it's a wreck and a lot of water dama

that have made incredible accomplishments lately we passed the due process for all ordinance board of supervisors

i do think that given the legal structure of the mta, that this is probably as far as the board of supervisors can push, this resolution is not binding but i also know that -- well, first of all, i respect and trust that director ris k*en will follow the commitment that he has made, but if for some reason there's a failure to do that, there are many thing that is the mta has to come to this board and ask for, so there will be plenty of opportunity for us to inject ourselves where needed. that said, i do think we need to figure out a way of creating more transparency and community involvement around the decisions around parking meters. i think that that requires a larger conversation and i do hope that we engage in that larger conversation, but i think the language that has been introduced by supervisor avalos provides some at least, you know, i guess control in terms if you will by this board, so thank you. >> supervisor cohen? >> thank you very much. a little bit off topic in terms of the contract at hand, but director ris k*en, i have a question for you, what is the rational that parking met

and that is a sponsor with the board of supervisors and any other kinds of admin and that is a decision that could be made as well. and what we have before us, and a stream lining and effect and it may be stream lining and we really mean the timing and combining at a certain period of time so that we can get it done, the most efficient way and that is what is required as of right now. >> okay. >> and yeah, i guess the part that i was referring to was the fact that there is a resolution, makes me think that there is some action to the folks just organizing what is already required of us and i think that is the distinction and the fact that we are superceding to the resolution with anything else and this supercedes that, and that gives me the impression that it was important to take the action and if that was interpreted as further validating the need for all of these reports that is where i would take issue, it might be that there are two separate processes. >> loftus, you are saying that this does call for a second look, so to speak each year, annually, and so if there are things that c