we have a swedish boatswain. worked on the ship in sweden. she is called the goteburg.ything. at the same time, artists, crew members, animators, so you learn very fast with people like him. >> my day job is sailing ships like this. i worked with a man who designed this rigging. for 8-10 months i worked with him in rochefort. then just a few weeks before sailing, i was invited to come aboard the ship and sale across -- sail across the atlantic. >> how difficult is the work? >> it depends what age you are. [laughter] and the weather. what you said earlier was important, it is the teamwork that, because individually and even in a group of five or six people, you go up on one of these yards and it will not happen. the mainsail -- it gets wet it's almost a ton. it takes 30 to 35 people working together to furl that sail. i think it is the ability to -- to communicate clearly with each other as to what you are going to do next. it is one of the hardest things to do especially when the wind is blowing. you use sign language, body language. it is -- that is one thing i did not