, that's who bob amsterdam is, he's a lawyer representing ukrainian orthodox church, but he himself isot an orthodox ukrainian. he is jewish, and he is very liberal, he is not for russia, by the way, he is banned from entering russia, some of his friends were killed in russia, he does not side with the russian government or on the side of the ukrainian orthodox church, he is one of those few american lawyers who, even in twenty-four, believe that it is necessary to protect human rights, that it is important to tell the truth. last month he returned from ukraine and we thought it made sense ask him. what's it like in ukraine? we are pleased to once again welcome him to us. bob, thanks so much for coming. tell us, i want to hear what you can tell us about what's currently happening in ukraine. well, thank you, tucker. and frankly, i supported the relief package because our church members are on the front lines. and they could use any help. the ukrainian orthodox church is a church that... relies only on god's word, this is a church in which there are more than a thousand years, and its p