former cia operative and security analyst bob baer joining me via skype from colorado. ob, some say that the evidence is still circumstantial, that there isn't enough. what more would you want? >> well, fredericka, the problem is that we can't tie this to bashar al assad. we don't know if rogue officers fired this. we don't know exactly what happened. if you see a lot of people on, you know, up on the air saying who did this, you know, i think this unit did. that's not enough. it is not a smoking gun and i think everybody would like to see that smoking gun before we launch an attack. >> and your sources are telling you something very interesting. your syrian sources are telling you about the potential consequences if, indeed there were a military strike. government sources? citizens? what are they saying? >> these are people in the regime. they have called me up. they come across the border and call me on skype and said on monday bashar al assad made a statement inside the regime that if there's an attack on syria he will respond by hitting israel. i asked them would tha

so his political legacy is on the line here. >> bob baer, thank you.g up, if the u.s. does decide to strike syria, who will it help? according to my next guest, al qaeda. he'll explain, right after this. ♪ [ male announcer ] may your lights always be green. [ tires screech ] ♪ and your favorite songs always playing. [ beeping ] ♪ may you never be stuck behind a stinky truck. [ beeping ] ♪ may things always go your way. but it's good to be prepared... just in case they don't. let's go places, safely. [ female announcer ] pop in a whole new kind of clean with tide pods. three chambers. three times the stain removal power. pop in. stand out. >>> after more than two years of civil war in syria, the united states is closer than ever to a military strike. my next fest sguest says if we strike, it won't be the opposition we're helping. it would be al qaeda. clark barthby is a research fellow with the new america foundation. he joins me from turkey. so how would a u.s. strike help al qaeda? >> basically the al qaeda local affiliate known as the islamic state i

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. >> our international security expert bob baer is joining us.hat al shabaab is telling these young men that their lives will be better, that they won't take part in these terrible murderous sprees. what do you think about the way that they are able to recruit men from the united states that were born here? >> well, they convince them to go back to somalia to help. it may start off as completely benign but once they get in somalia and pick up a gun, they take on this jihadist mentality which is take the war wherever you can, whether it's in nairobi or indianapolis. this is a very real fear. almost every fbi office in the midwest is focused on the somalia community going back second generation, getting trained, and coming back to this country. it's a very real fear which cannot be ignored. >> nic was telling us a short time ago that this was an unusual place to target for al shabaab, this shopping mall in nairobi, kenya, upscale shopping mall, very nice. i'm sure that the authorities here in the united states are also concerned about the so-called

i was talking to one of our cnn analysts, former cia operative bob baer. he told me this.this sound bite for you. this is based upon conversations he has with his contacts in damascus. >> and this regime is panicking. and they've made it very clear that if any of these strikes look like regime change, if they hit, for instance, the fourth division, the president's brother's division, bashar al assad will act irrationally. and that could mean anything you could imagine, from attacking neighboring countries to using more gas. >> panicking. irrational. david lesch. again, that was my interview last friday when the rewregime appeared to be under that imminent threat of attack. the crux there being assad might act irrationally. as we mentioned, you've met the man a couple of times. proper assessment, unstable? >> i wouldn't -- i wouldn't describe it like that. they weren't panicking. i can almost assure you of that. they're used to this. again, they're fairly certain that the united states was going to act in a very limited way. the united states was actually saying it was goin