bob baer is out front. he is a former cia operative. bob, they are using the word glitch.ry headline has glitch with quotes around it. is it a glitch or something more? >> i think they are calling it a bit early. they will need forensics people to get into the operating system and tell us. i don't trust it yet. it could have been a glitch. it could have been a coincidence, these three sites going down. who knows? what's important is how vulnerable we are to a massive computer failure. the chinese and russians for instance could close down the stock market for -- do more damage that occurred today. same with the airlines. we have been warned about this by washington. by general clapper among others. they are right. we are vulnerable. i wouldn't -- this thing is hard to predict. is it a matter of time? i would say if things get rough enough internationally, yes. >> which is terrifying and gives people a sense of what could happen. airline systems go down planes are in the air. you could imagine we're not talking about inconvenience. we're talking about loss of life that coul

. >> we have reaction from the middle east and intelligence and security analyst bob baer will join us live. we will begin with christiane's conversation with u.s. secretary of state john kerry. >> secretary kerry, thank you for joining us. have you made history? >> people call it an hiss tore ic agreement, i guess, because iran has come to the table, and on paper we have an agreement. but we don't have anything until this is implemented. we have an outline. i think it's a strong one. i think it's a great possibility, but as i said in my comments today, it's the implementation of this that will be the measure. >> what about the selling of it before it is implemented? how difficult will that be? >> there are people who have already politically decided i'm going to oppose this. without even knowing or reading the agreement, without knowing the terms of it, they are posed it to. and there are people who have decided, many of them that you shouldn't deal with iran, but they don't offer an alternative. while we did that in the tweers 2000, almost obama came in, guess what? their program wen

and cnn intelligence and security analyst bob baer. have the three of you with us today. jane i'll start with you. we know there has been this air strike campaign in raqqa. this isn't the first one. what is the significance of this particular air strike? >> well we're upping our ante. we're responding, i assume to the vicious isil attacks in three countries that preceded this. but what i worry about is this military strategy won't get us there. where is there? there is really a political solution not a military solution. but air strikes without adequate intelligence on the ground can't succeed. and in addition to that our strategy in syria's confused. the president today said something important. he said he wants a transition to a pluralist government with bashar assad out. that's important. bashar assad out. but the folks we want to train and are asking to help us want him out now and have thought that our strategy so far it has been true has not been focused on him. >> you talk about the fact that we don't have an adequate intelligen

analyst tom fuentes, the former fbi assistant director and cnn intelligence and security analyst bob baerhil i want to check in with you about this report bakley the airlines pilots were posting sympathetic communication -- not -- sympathetic messages online for some time sympathetic to isis and then it appears one popped up in raqqa, syria. which of course is a hotbed for isis. could isis be trying to recruit pilots? >> sure. there's a couple ways i would be thinking about. we've seen a large geographic expansion, and forget about air planes wharks about tanks armored personnel carriers. the iraqi military fell apart years ago, so isis presumably has people in the ranks who have been operating some equipment. ivan seen self-recruitment by al qaeda, people mailing in saying i want to participate in jihad, will you allow me to join the fight. the most worrisome was a guy self-recruiting out of an airport, that was years ago. >> someone who is through security who as -- >> who's writing in. i would say isis has more of an opportunity to do that. in contrast to al qaeda, they are way out the

and former cia operative bob baer.y are talking about a terror attack against the united states they are looking at complex plans from isis. you say that something is wrong here. >> yeah. this has a different feel. around holidays or anniversaries -- >> they ramp up security. >> there's chatter. this is more than that. when you talk to intelligence and law enforcement officials, it's clear that it's more than just chatter. you have seen the series of attacks by isis overseas. egypt, yemen, around the world. then you overlay that with the intelligence. clear clearly, there has been some signals suggesting the july 4th date and weekend. >> they have confidence. this isn't just this is the holiday and there's parades, we will put a warning out? >> this is different than that. they are going to great expense and extent to coordinate. >> i believe you agree with fran. something is wrong here. this is very serious. >> the government law enforcement is on full alert. look at the context, the attacks in tunisia, tourists kille

the bob baer said to us today, this is the one i was afraid of a soft target being hit.ry americans tonight now realize in a way that perhaps they have not before that this can happen anywhere to anyone. >> sure. but you have do remember if you put this in context, despite the tragedy, we're still talking in terms of violent crime in america of a minor number of people who are involved. that's a brutal truth, but it's a truth. we accept gang violence drug violence. we have a new phenomenon that we don't fully understand that might result let's say in a dozen, two dozen murders in america this year. the fact that we had this event tonight doesn't mean americans are more vulnerable to this. it means we're coming to a realization that we have a problem in america we have to understand. that said it pales in comparison to the other crime issues we deal with and accept. >> we have seen it happen in france. you have seen it happen -- we don't know the motive whether it's islamic related terrorism. but we have seen events that in tunisia, in france in australia. we now have som

. >>> now, bob baer cnn's intelligence and security analyst. when you take everything that we are now learning about abdulazeez so far, the writings about anti-american sentiment, he is also against u.s. policy in the war on terror but no direct connection to any terror groups. at this point, do you consider him a terrorist? >> i think he's a terrorist. i mean we don't know what went on in jordan when that visit -- was he recruited? you have to look at the crime itself. people in uniform. it was conducted during ramadan. he was the type of person the isis would go after. you know sort of -- even the dui, they are looking for weak people on the margins. they are trying to give a meaning -- everything you look -- you look at the face of this attack and it looks like the islamic state was behind it. we have to keep in mind the islamic state understands the fbi is catching these people when they go up on social networks and they talk about their plans or they buy tickets to syria. they are learning. they are learning to stay off the internet. doing

>> tonight, former secret service agent who was assigned to president obama, jonathan wakrow and bob baerligence and security analyst. jonathan specific details they are laying out about the president's itinerary, the flight itinerary, if you will was released to everyone on facebook. these are details that seem should be sensitive. how big of a deal is this? >> a really big deal. any time the president's schedule or any type of security plan is divulged prior to a trip it raises the risk level. this is a really big deal. the good thing is that the secret service and the military you have time to readjust the plan that was disclosed. we can try to mitigate this risk a little bit. >> adjusting very quickly. the trip is coming up. bob, you say the president's trip is the perfect storm for a terrorist attack. explain. >> kate there's a couple things. it is on the bloody edge on the war on terror. there has been a lot of attacks in kenya. it has a large muslim population. it has a 440-mile border with somalia. you have a lot of sewomalis with weapons. will he come out, more than likely. >> wi