and 2008 michelle obama went to a black church and used the term "whit "whitey," by our friend, bob beckat have to do with hillary clinton? >> all i'm saying is i think it is interesting democrats have pushed some of these racial issues in the past. that doesn't excuse what donald trump did, but if the question is, does hillary clinton bear some responsibility for starting it, certainly her allies certainly do. >> no, she does not. and this has been proven over, and over, and over again and we -- you know, corey and all of trump's supporters can say that hillary clinton started this until they're blue in the face, but it doesn't make it true, and additionally, what it does is it continues to undermine whatever smid smidgen of credibility, if any, which i don't think there was any trump supporters have in defending this vile act that has been going on for five years. if he had said last night, if he had said that five years ago, i would have said okay, yes, he ended it. he did not end it, and in fact, the reason why he didn't end it is because the majority of the american people know he w