and in two years, i caught bob bonner and passed him to the big leagues. so he stayed the same and i got better. david: what year did he get into the hall of fame? cal: i think he is a minister in africa right now. david: speaking of the hall of fame, you were elected with 98.5% of the vote. have you ever figured out who that person was who didn't vote for you? [laughter] who was this person waiting for? cal: i hunted all five of them down. i think in my particular year, i think mariano rivera had gone in with 100% of the vote. david: the only one. cal: my year, there was a protest vote where five people did not turn in a ballot, as a protest of the steroid era. those counted against you. david: did anyone ever come to you and say you are good but you could be better? if you take some of these drugs. cal: no. looking back on it, you could probably see signs in hindsight of players who might have used. when you are playing, if you are not in that secret society, you don't know, and i didn't know. david: some players were like 180 pounds and then later they

there was one shortstop by the name of bob bonner that came out of texas a&m.e was like a sixth round pick for us. i was taking ground balls and doing stuff with him. he was clearly light years ahead of me. that our arm. he could field the ball better. he was quicker on the transfer. i kept going, i'm never going to play. this guy is too good. i'm not that good. they moved him immediately to aa which opened up the spot for me. then i got my feet on the ground and i started playing well. started hitting home runs my next year. then i got to aa and i had a breakout season. in two years, i caught him and passed him to the big leagues. he stayed the same and i got better. david: what year did he get into the hall of fame? [laughter] cal: i think he's a minister in africa right now. david: speaking of the hall of fame. you elected with 98.5% of the vote. have you figured out who that person was who didn't vote for you? [laughter] who is this person waiting for? cal: i've hunted all five of them down. in my particular year, mariano rivera went in at 100%. david: the