we asked her about the weird thing we heard on fox news about bob bower, and she said, quote, bob boweras toty unknown to everybody down here. there were a lot of other lawyers on the periphery, but he was nowhere to be seen. he was not involved in any way nor was his firm. i think karl rove is delusional. i think leers lying. we contacted mr. rove's office today to see what he was talking about. why did he bring this up? and at about the fact it was totally made up? we have no response from mr. rove. in the meantime, what is most interesting about this strange thing that happened on fox news a few days ago, this very unexplained eruption from karl rove, the most amtrusting thing about this is the reason why he did it. which was to avoid answering the question to him about who is paying for all of those ads against president obama that he's been running. and why shouldn't he have to disclose who those people are. one of the targets of karl rove positive rath, although it's not about the candidates, one of those candidates joins us next. so, you actually reward people for staying with yo

you know, in terms of the complaint that bob bower the obama attorney has made it is unlikely the fecill act on this. i think what we're really seeing is bower and the obama campaign starting to make this more of an issue this secret money coming in to karl rove's cofers and spent to hammer the president. they're putting it in the public eye and trying to make it a campaign battle. >> to your point, it's not likely this will turn into anything other than maybe a war of words with fiery letters and fiery words during an interview. nevertheless, the larger picture, the american people already concerned about, you know, these billionaires having great access, the changes that we've seen as a result of the supreme court decision. to me it seems this ad is just another cloud of suspicion over all of this big money now infiltrating politics. it's always been there but since the supreme court's decision it's taken to a whole new level. >> without a doubt. the kind of secret spending going through groups like crossroads gps, this is absolutely unprecedented. it's happening at the federal leve

to testify, one of the accusers was bob bower, who was the attorney for a woman named dana jill simpsonwoman i never met in my entire life, that i asked her to investigate the sexual shenanigans of democratic governor segleman of alabama, and you know, bob bower was her attorney, got her on "60 minutes" big hoo-ha about it. this is the kind of guy he is. i know what he's doing. >> the question was about whether or not you're going to reveal who is giving you all that money to run the anti-obama ads you have been running, and the president is president obama's lawyer was the lawyer for a woman who said i was involved in a sexual shenanigans investigation in -- what are you talking about? this happened on fox news last week. we have been keeping an eye on it ever since, wondering if there was going to be another shoe that dropped, what it could have mend, but there has been no other shoe dropped by mr. rove. you should just know this is happening because there is something weird going on. in this fight about all of the dark money being spent against obama this year. karl rove has a long h