in associate editor of the washington woes, bob woodward and reporter for "the washington post" bob costa, co-authors of the best-selling book "peril." bob woodward, it is fascinating adam kinzinger was tweeting out on january 5, something bad is happening, something bad is going to happen tomorrow. other members of congress were doing the same. i think the incredible service you all have provided in reporting is showing what happened not on the 6th but what happened on january the 5th. you all have put that together. tell me your thoughts a year later about that day and how that was actually the planning for the chaos we saw a day later. >> well, what we found in our

bob costa would not allow president trump to sit down for an interview with him. so that's why bob costed drummed it up. so he's complete fake news. now, i did, i visit the willard one time back in december. yes. that was the case by drop by to chat with mer juliani. but i never participating in some sort of war room or some kind of planning about january 6 or any protests. in fact, on january 6th, i was at home sitting on my couch, eating door dash, watching everything on tv along with many other people around the country. okay. did you know in advance of january the 6 just how bad it was going to be? no, not at all. then if he even had the slightest inkling of something like that, then obviously i would have said something. in fact, i don't know. even of anybody who had any idea of that artist had the day before, hold on hell. the bottom of it all hell was going to break loose. he said that on january the 5th, so he seems to have known and seem content i would push back. and i'd say that i think you're taking a completely erroneous angle on that. what mr. banner

joining me now legendary sportscaster and cnn contributor bob costas. i don't know if i want to say that it is, you know, coin toss inducing losses because you win or you lose. but hello to you. all of this drama. >> hi. >> all of the excitement from the past weekend games had me screaming. i was traveling. i'm sure the people in the next room to me thought i was crazy. oh, my gosh, wow! maybe they were watching as well. what made it such an incredible weekend for the nfl? all the upsets right? >> well, yeah. and the three or four home teams losing and almost a fourth kansas city pulled it out. one thing that should be obvious about the nfl, part of its appeal is that unlike basketball, baseball, hockey where you have to get to a seventh game for there to be do or die for both teams, every playoff game in the nfl is the equivalent of a seventh game in the other sports. it is all do or die. you go home even if you lose by the narrowest of margins. so it was an incredible weekend. everything decided right on the last play. so in a sense it was insanely goo

let's bring in the incomparable bob costas right now to discuss.and lapses in judgment. what's your take? >> and in addition to the episode with the french sports journal, there is the fact that there was what he calls a simple clerical error. others might view it as a conscious lie, of contending, whoever filled out the form, on his form to enter australia, that he had not traveled to other nations when there was clear evidence that he had in the days preceding. and it's all part of a pattern of contempt for common sense when it comes to the medical issues and also contempt for the common good. and in sports, and i guess in parts of entertainment or whatever, if you're great enough and if you're important enough to the bottom line because your star value means people in the seats and eyeballs on television, there are people who will excuse that or try and work around it, including the australian tennis committee which at first said, sure, he's welcome, then they got pushback from the border authorities in australia. now he's won, as you indicated,

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fact, all the information that you're citing with the exception of the loser fake news journalist bob costa are largely coming from books. i sat down and proactively told, here's what happened. and so on january 6, i spoke with president trump actually more than twice that day when we spoke that morning and just kind of goes to the mindset of where things were. we were talking about the election results from the previous night in georgia where republicans lost both of those 2 senate seats. so we were talking about that. and then also the president asked a question if i had heard anything with regard to say, crowd size or other activities with regard to the, the peaceful protest. it was happening down on the ellipse where he was going to be speaking. and then i was violent. i started before the violence started. well, well before yes, obviously those were, those are 2 completely separate different things. the, there's no such violence or hold on. he asked me a question that you got, let me finish. and so, and then i spoke with a president the night of the 6 as i worked with him to construct

. >>> i'm going to sports broadcaster bob costas. bob, great to see you. what do you make of the reports that tom brady is retiring? >> i would say all indications are that the only thing we're missing is some kind of press conference where we actually see tom brady. even this leaking out the way it has is a little surprising because tomorrow are the conference championship games and two weeks after that, the super bowl. and generally tom wouldn't want to intrude on any of that, even a tweet or rumored reports, he's such a big deal that it's not going to overshadow games, necessarily, but good part of the surrounding programming. you're leading with it on newscasts, not a sports cast. it is clear how iconic he is. i think it might be the case his agent is trying to create distance without denying it, but everything and andy scholes played some of the audio, everything he said to this point, some of it might be cryptic. we can infer it is a matter of time until there's perhaps official announcement, perhaps after the super bowl. >> from the man himself. tha

let's bring in bob costas. just reading the latest in the twists and turns. what is going on and is he going to be able to play in this tournament? >> well, you laid it all out. i would think that the opinion of the chief medical officer of tennis australia does not supersede the rules and regulations of the australian government. as you know, they have some of the strictest covid rules and protocols in the entire world and they've worked very well up until now, but the omicron variant, while programs the symptoms for the vaccinated are much less serious, nonetheless, the number of cases has jumped up so that's a concern. so i don't see them. obviously we're commenting on this from a distance, but i would think that the nation's regulations certainly supersede the tennis association's desires. one thing we have to keep in mind as we talk about djokovic, aaron rodgers, teams want to win. organizers of events want star power. both venus and serena are not competing in the australian open for the first time in the

joining us now, bob costas. thanks for joining us.s created unique circumstances going back a couple of years now. so there's always something we haven't seen before. but in djokovic's case, we're talking about an individual sport athlete, not a team sport athlete. but this is worth noting. counting the women's side, 128 on both sides. 256 competitors at the australian open. if somehow he's allowed to play, he will be the only one who is unvaccinated. and what we have with him, i don't know him personally, i haven't covered much tennis in my career, but i've followed it as closely as most people had. he's shown a continued, and in this episode, a continued pattern of evasions of the truth, and contempt for the rules that apply to everyone else. so, you know, it's difficult to take his side in this. >> you've said in the past, he's said what you've called the contempt for the common good. he really doesn't believe the rules actually do apply to him, does he? >> evidently not. i'm not going to sit here and analyze him from this great di

we are talking with gloria borja, bob woodward and robert costa, authors of "peril."o refer back to something robert mentioned before the break, namely the night before. i want to review a few tweets he sent out in preparation for the conversation we are having tonight. quote, i'm going through my old notebooks tonight from the "peril" box. here are some notes. one year ago tonight i was outside the willard wandering around with pen and pad, passing proud boys, oath keepers, monitoring the crowd. the city was otherwise empty. trump was in the oval office with pence. then i saw black cars arriving at the hotel. another tweet. 1/5, city empty, freezing cold, trash uncollected, rats everywhere, willard a hot spot. maga clashing with police there. rowdy. back of willard. black cars? follow? later, we went back and forth on whether to include the detail on rats in the book and decided against it. extraneous. robert, i can tell you there were plenty of rats on the street in new york city last night as i was getting a late dinner on the street. so main they -- i don't know a

of the committee did, one of the things they began with, was a blueprint laid out in bob woodward and robert costa's book "peril" before they were able to collect evidence themselves there was that book. most if not all of the staff read that book. bob woodward and robert costa are going to be our first guests tonight, lead us off. >> well done. well done. thank you. >> thank you, rachel. >>> well, we have new information tonight about what donald trump was doing during the insurrection one year ago that put democracy in peril. former white house press secretary stephanie grisham testified to the committee last night and this morning she revealed some of what she told the committee. >> all i know about that day was that he was in the dining room gleefully watching on his tv as he often did, look at all the people fighting for me, hitting rewind, watching it again. that's what i know. >> and unnamed trump white house official told cnn today that donald trump was, quote, letting it play out. letting it play out. today, standing in the capitol rotunda, which one year ago was under the control of a trum

and he saw me on "bob costas" on hbo, and he saw me talking about playing the cypress.stigious, let's say. and he knew i was a fan of golf, and we worked right by each other warner brothers. and he sent me an invitation, and we become very close friends. and, you know, this is my fourth year. damian: 'cause you grabbed the golf club first when? george: i was probably 11 or 12, and i hit lemons in the backyard. we got a lemon tree. we were--we're like-- damian: with what? with the golf club? george: yeah, a three wood. i don't know how we got them. i think they were in case we heard a noise, you know. we didn't have a gun, but we had a seven iron and a three wood. and i don't know how we ended up with golf clubs. my grandfather didn't play golf, and then my grandfather ended up using the clubs to keep the dog in the yard. like, he would put it between the wall and the door so the dog would push the door, but he pushed against the club. so it wasn't like we had a bag or head covers or anything like that, so. damian: and i read somewhere that you're a 14-handicap and eddie

the best selling book "peril" by bob woodward and robert costa. the committee's letter to ivanka trump requesting her testimony reveals under oath testimony already obtained from former army general keith kellogg who served as a national security adviser to vice president pence and simultaneously as assistant to president trump, the questions in that testimony released today seem to be based directly on the passage in bob woodward and robert costa's book outlining this episode. here is the testimony version. quote, question, it's been reported that the president said to the vice president, you don't have the courage to make a hard decision. and maybe not those exact words but something like that. do you remember anything like that? answer, words, i don't remember exactly either but something like that, yeah. being like, you're not tough enough to make the call. question, another report on this phone call is that trump said, mike, it's not right. you can do this. i'm counting on you to do it. if you don't do it, i picked the wrong man four years ag

following that, spotify's other star bobl spotify�*s other star bob costas, harry and meghan, issueddation, outwell. so, can spotify now win over their sceptics? so, can spotify now win over theirsceptics? i so, can spotify now win over their sceptics?— their sceptics? i don't think it is going _ their sceptics? i don't think it is going to _ their sceptics? i don't think it is going to work, - their sceptics? i don't think| it is going to work, because neil young made a statement that basically said it's either me orjoe rogan and, you know, joe rogan is there moneymaker. it's bad for this but want to have to deal with this, because already apple, if you open apple music, they said you can find neil young's music here. so apple is on top until they make some sort of mistake people try to cancel them. this e - isode people try to cancel them. this episode underlines the challenge of policing these platforms as even podcast now become potential minefields of misinformation. mark lobel, bbc news. the united states has made a direct appeal to north korea to join talks about its nuclear a

i think we have to listen carefully to what bob costa has just said right there.edia had done so much to hearfrom some trump supporters both in the period after but really every since the american media was taken by complete surprise on election night in 2016. there was no failure to toughestjump supporters. to recognise the implications of what the media report was sharing. and there was an actual layer that makes it different from violent protest and as criminal activities that may ensue and this is different because there are structural forces at play and institutions placed in motion and open revolt against its leaders and there were efforts to leverage these powerful positions in government to overturn the will of the american vote. when we consider the description you have given us and the description roberts has given us, susan from the washington examiner i wonder if you feel that american media plus plus coverage of the fallout from january six all the way through the last 12 months has been proportionate? i think it's been a little political. i think it

talking tonight with gloria borger and bob woodward and robert costa, authors of "peril."t, i want to go back to someone robert mentioned before the break. namely, the night before. i want to review a few tweets sent today in preparation for this conversation we are having tonight. quote, i am going through old notebooks tonight from the peril project. the january 2021 box of notebooks. here are some notes. one year ago tonight, i was outside the willard wandering around with pen and pad pressing proud boys, oath keepers, monitoring the crowd. the city was otherwise empty. trump was in the oeval office with pence. then i saw black cars arriving at the hotel. city empty, freezing cold, rats everywhere, willard a hot spot. maga clashing with police there, rowdy, back of willard, black cars. follow. later, we went back and forth on whether to include the detail on the book and decided against it. extraneous. it is always nice to have more material than you need unless, of course, it is all about threats to democracy. robert, i can tell you there were plenty of rats on the str

for me it shows the access that bob woodward and rob costa had. the u.s. military about what was happening on january six. but they had to signal. i want to say one thing about a book. not necessarily a popular book. mark meadows, trying to sell his book. by calling his own book fake news. when he came forward and said that president trump had covid before that first debate. when he -- when the president came down on him and said that is fake news. mark mantises new approach to selling his book is saying it's fake news. that's his new promotion. >> that's new promotional strategy. >> maybe that's how you sell books. >> we have salina, we have a least. i we have the mark meadows. me >> amen bringing us fake news. >> would say you zerlina? >> i actually have to. one is burke's book, unbound. it is a memoir me. speaks to a lot of different things that have happened. not just in the last year, but also going back to 2017. i think that it is an amazing memoir. testament to the context of this moment. another one i would add is both and by whom i aberde

. >> legendary sportscaster bob costas joins me tonight.ll start the interview with an apology and wait till you hear about what he thinks of the winter games in beijing. that's on balance. here's dan abrams. >> thankfully one tonight on dan abrams live on news nation. a growing number of big cities, restaurants and venues just now requiring proof of the covid vaccine. but why now? the current data shows the vaccine doesn't help reduce the spread of omicron. that's tonight. and dan abrams live. >> you can find newsnation on the channels listed right here. we have more details on our website. kron 4 dot com. one final check of the forecast right now with our meteorologist mabrisa rodriguez. don't you wish your up here with me? and you could have had some girl scout cookies. i mean, i'm down here in a cold, dark studio. save you have been called for. but what we thin mints, the box of thin mints, ok? lines spoken for their land in or like that. >> like salty caramel light sugar and salt. he mix lemon. i'm it. okay. >> no one will touch those.

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with me now legendary broadcaster bob costas, veteran of nbc, he has hosted 12 olympics. on the record" on hbo. bob, i know you are asked about the nbc and you still have a lot of friends there. >> sure. >> what are you hearing about the unique challenges covering the beijing games? >> we should preface this by saying no one could have anticipated covid, no matter what the venue s but the ioc deserves all of the disdain and disgust that comes their way for going back to china yet again. they were in beijing in 2008, they go to sochi in 2014, they're shameless about this stuff. so this takes place not only amid covid, as did the tokyo games of a year ago, but as you mention, the restrictions on press freedom and the sense that everyone there is being monitored in some way. we had that feeling in 2008 in beijing, i think if anything it's been ramped up now, and any -- it isn't just nbc, any network that broadcasts big sports events is simultaneously in a position, it's quasi journalistic at best, you're reporting a news event and what surrounds it in the case of the olympics

in our last hour we had the coauthors of" peril" bob woodward and bob costa.me against the constitution and robert costa said the more you pull up the rug the more you see whose fingerprints are on this. there is all of that and the breaking news. cnn kaitlan collins joins us now from the white house with that. we know president biden and vice president harris are going to speak at the capitol to mark tomorrow's anniversary. do we know much about what they are going to say. >> i think for president biden, when he starts to speak after the vice president has given her remarks, it is going to be pretty blunt. it is a speech he has been working on for several days. he had nothing on his public schedule today because this is something he was focused on given how big the moment is, talking about the implications of not only what happened that day, how far reaching they have been and what we have learned in the days and months since that attack happened. when it comes to role his former predecessor played in invoking and starting the riot, that is something that pre

we'll discuss that with the legendary sportscaster bob costas. really great football weekend. we'l

in associate editor of the washington woes, bob woodward and reporter for "the washington post" bob costay 5, something bad is happening, something bad is going to happen tomorrow. other members of congress were doing the same. i think the incredible service you all have provided in reporting is showing what happened not on the 6th but what happened on january the 5th. you all have put that together. tell me your thoughts a year later about that day and how that was actually the planning for the chaos we saw a day later. >> well, what we found in our reporting, robert and i, you have to look at what's the rationale trump and his supporters are making? they're saying oh, the election was stolen, and we were able to go back and do reporting in the earlier days of january, and we found, i'm sorry to be a document person here, this is a thick stack of memos that rudy giuliani sent to senator lindsey graham. and if you go through it as lynn si graham counsel did and robert costa and i did, there are preposterous claims in the brazenness of this idea that the election is stolen. for instance, i

leading off our discussion tonight, bob woodward, two-time pulitzer prize-winning author, and robert costa national reporter for the washington post. they are the coauthors of the book, peril. thank you both for being here. on what is a sad in historic night, in this country. bob woodward, as we gather more detail to the very detailed account that you already have, in peril. what strikes you as the most important thing for people to know about what the president was doing on january 6th? >> well, there is more in the book about trump threatening pence. i want to be very accurate, and quote accurately, he said, you can to do this. other words, certify biden as president. i don't want to be your friend anymore. you've betrayed us. i made you. your career is over. another point in all of this, trump said to pence, i picked the wrong man four years ago. and then you did the, >> you're gonna win tout. i think about it, put yourself in pence's shoes. here he is, the loyal man for four years, doing everything. i remember being in the oval office with interviewing trump and he had they always brin

the committee, informally reached out to former vice president dan quayle, who as our colleague bob costaported, had been in touch with the vice president ahead of january 6th in that retelling of their interaction in their book, quayle indicated a minor level of, you know -- of potentially not -- mike pence not being as resolute as he could have been in that decision, although ultimately, obviously, mike pence went on to block the electoral certification. we confirmed that liz cheney had reached out to quayle and he went on the record and gave us a statement that said that the two did, in fact, speak and that, actually, you know, there was no sense of any hesitation on the part of mike pence to do the right thing, and that he praised and lauded the vice president for his efforts in making sure that democracy was not derailed. but you know, it's unclear so far if there are others in the periphery that they've reached out to, to get a better sense of the vice president's mindset on that day. >> both things can be true and i think miles taylor just made this reference to a good angel and de

the nominees are "peril," by bob woodward and robert costa.ion, but none did a better job of capturing the frantic final days of his presidency, including detailing how alarmed our top military officials were about trump's attempt to hold power. and the book i could not put down was "the reckoning: america's trauma and finding a way to heal" by mary l. trump. it took a book by trump's niece to remind us that our politics isn't all about the former guy. from the pandemic to our racial awakening, america has been through a lot in the past few years, and it's time to mend. and lastly, i would be remiss if i didn't mention "the righteous troublemakers: untold stories of social justice in america" by the reverend alfred sharpton, which i'm sure we can all agree would make a great stocking suffer. elise, any other books you'd like to add to the list? >> it was just such a year. i think about "peril," what struck me is just how intense the days around january 6th, and you know, robert costa is one of our colleagues at the network, and if anything, he

i wanted no confess, i watched you on bob costas, a friend of howard bryant i did not get some of theve to get better with these courts. i don't get the inside conversations. you have to help me with that. i am very much looking forward to game theory within it comes out on hbo. good luck. thanks for being here. >>> coming up, mitch mcconnell straight up said black americans are fought fully americans. i got the play after this break. stay tuned. we'll be right back. >>> deon, hand it over. now how does that make you feel? like a part of me is missing. gabrielle? this old spice fiji hand and body lotion has me smoother than ever. that's what it does. [copy machine printing] ♪ ♪ who would've thought printing... could lead to growing trees. ♪ ♪ ♪ could lead to growi♪ ♪trees. >>> continue to destroy democracy and keep the ballot box white, the self-proclaimed grim reaper, mitch mcconnell was asked what his message was to voters of color who were concerned that they wouldn't be able to vote during this year's midterms, and he said this. >> well, the concern is misplaced because if you loo

we know now that, thanks to bob woodward and robert costa's reporting in their book peril, that donald trump already knew that the white house counsel was already threatening to quit over criminal attempts to change the outcome of the presidential election. on this night, exactly one year ago, sean hannity texted mark meadows, pence pressure, white house counsel will leave. mark meadows already knew that. sean hannity knew that mark meadows knew that but at this hour, one year ago, sean hannity was desperately trying to get the weakest white house chief of staff in history to step up to a deranged presidents and do the right thing, say the right thing. it was on this day, when you're ago, that mike pence told donald trump in the oval office that he was not going to violate the law and attempt to reject electoral votes submitted to congress the next day. in that meeting, on this evening, one year ago, in the white house, donald trump told mike pence -- what do you think, mike? trump asked. look, i've read this, and i don't see a way to do it. i've done everything i could and then some t

wrapping up our look at some of the best-selling books of 2021, it's the "washington post" bob woodward and robert costas report on the transition between trump and biden administration's and their book that came out this fall was called peril. all of these authors have appeared on booktv and you can watch the programs any time on the website, booktv.org. thanks for joining us on about books. about books is available as a podcast on c-span now or wherever you get your podcasts. happy holiday season to you. we will be back in january with another episode of about books. >> you are watching booktv, the top nonfiction books and authors every weekend. booktv, television for serious readers. >> welcome to our viewers, welcome to linda greenhouse, an old friend of mine and i'm excited for her new booklet is out and we will have a conversation of about 60 minutes. i want to start by saying i have known linda since the late 80s when i started covering the supreme court too and for a long time we were competitors, friendly competitors but competitors. i was full-time with the washington post and she was full-time

sean hannity's texts as your committee has revealed them with the reporting we have from bob woodward, robert costa, and our sources trying to link up what was happening while thetections were being pumped into the white house by sean hannity. but i assume you probably by now have a fairly precise tiktok of january 5th and january 6th with all of the witnesses you have been talking to. >> that's one of the things we have been working on from the beginning, which is to continue to fill in the sequence of these messages of these conversations and of these events so that we can see them in their chronological order and understand how one relates to another. but i think you also, lauren, very well described why both hannity as well as the vice president are such important potential witnesses. clearly, hannity was privy to information about the possibility of the white house counsel leaving over the pressure put on pence. he was very concerned about what was going to happen in the next 48 hours on january 5th before they attacked the following day, and, what's more, the vice president, who was the subje

as bob woodward and robert costa report in peril, pence axed dan quayle for advice. and according to the reporting in the book, pence poked and prodded quayle for a way in which he could go along with the presidents plan. quayle was unequivocal. quote, mike you have no flexibility on this. none. zero. forget it. put it away. pence also reached out to legal scholar, michael leduc, who is a big deal in the conservative world. and he similarly told mike pence that the was unconstitutional. add to pence's own chief of staff who came to the same conclusion that one man, the obvious conclusion, could not unilaterally overturn an election disenfranchising 80 plus million voters. and to be clear here, and i think it's probably already clear, quayle, michael luttig, i think they already have pretty clear politics. they've all named a lot of terrible policies. actively made the country worse place. pence especially deserves enduring infamy for politely overseeing one of the most destructive presidencies in my lifetime and making it on and apologizing for it and vouching for it

according to the book "peril" by bob woodward and robert costa, on the days surrounding january 6, steveication. >> i'll tell you this. it's not going to happen the way you think it's going to happen. >> just the day before on january 5th, bannon ominously teased what was to come on his podcast "war room." >> it's going to be quite extraordinarily different. you've made this happen and tomorrow it's game day, so strap in. let's get ready. >> everything points to bannon was very closely associated with anything the campaign was doing. >> i think an overwhelming majority of that crowd was there to try to overturn democracy at that point, or the democratic process. >> bullshit! bullshit! bullshit! >> i knew i was kind of the face of so-called the deep state and the republican party so i didn't want to be out in public too much so i never bring my gun into the capitol complex. i brought it that day. >> i was sort of nervous for the morning. i was curious to see what the rally was. i was hoping not to hear some of the speeches that i ultimately heard. some of the more inflammatory ones. >> we

questions in that testimony released today seem to be based directly on the passage in bob woodward and robert costa's book outlining this episode. here is the testimony version. quote, question it is been reported by the president and the vice president, you don't have the courage to make a hard decision. and you may not exact those exact words. do you remember anything like that? >> i don't remember exactly either but it's something like that. being like yeah you're not tough enough to make the call. another report of this phone call is that trump said, it's not right. you can do this. i'm counting on you to do it. if you don't do it, i picked the wrong man four years ago. you're going to limp out. do you remember anything like? that words like that yes, i can't exactly, i can't, it's tough, yeah. the letter to a biker trump goes on to say, general kellogg also testify regarding remarks at the close of the call. ivanka trump turned to me and said mike pence is a good man. i said, yes he is. here is a passage from bob woodward and -- that the committee seem to be using as a guide in those questions.

according to a book by washington post journalist bob woodward and robert costa, trump hosted pence and john eastman inside the oval office where eastman pitched a dubious scheme. eastman later told cnn he only wanted to delay certification. and that same day proud boys leader enrique tarot was arrest and charged for burning a black lives matter banner and bringing high capacity rifle magazines to d.c. that was january 4th, a year ago. joining me now to discuss as we approach that anniversary, democratic congressman ruben gallego of arizona, he sits on the armed services committee, also chairman of bold pac, the campaign arm of the congressional hispanic office. thank you for having us -- for joining us this morning. >> good morning. >> so we're a year minus two days out. has the country addressed the root causes of january 6th to prevent a similar attack in the future? >> yes, and no. look, i don't think the attack you're going to see in the future is going to be by a bunch of angry fat men trying to get into congress. i think the actual attack is going to happen in the legislatures, i

here is how bob woodward and robert costa tell it in their book "peril." he instead strolled backstage and pulled biden aside. man, there have been a couple instances up there tonight where you could have mentioned having a black woman on the supreme court, clyburn said. you can't leave the stage without doing that, you just got to do that. of course, biden said you got it. and his final answer, biden hit the mark. the very next day, congressman clyburn endorsed candidate biden who went on to win the primary, resurrecting his campaign. he joins us now for his first television interview since the news of justice breyer's retirement. congressman clyburn, appreciate you being with us. can you tell us more about that conversation at the debate between you and then-candidate biden about nominating the first black woman to the supreme court? do you feel like this moment may have been made possible because of that conversation? >> thank you very much for having me, anderson. as you may know, i am the father of three daughters. and i talk with them a lot, and i ta

reporting by bob woodward and robert costa in their book, peril, and by others indicate that around the time of that text the white house counsel along with most of the top officials in the justice department were threatened to quit if donald trump fired his acting attorney general and replaced him with jeffrey clark. he has been subpoenaed to testify to the committee about jeffrey clark's own ideas about how to illegally overturn the results of the election. sean hannity says, quote, i do not see january six happening the way he is being told. we know that at that time donald trump was being told the lie that vice president mike pence could simply reject electoral votes submitted to congress by any state. on new years eve, sean hannity was telling donald trump to go to fl. we know that in donald trump's tormented psyche that was the same as telling him to go to hell. the hell of living in florida. as a loser. on january 5th, the night before the trump mob violently attacked the capital and screamed their hope of killing mike pence, sean hannity texted i am very worried about the next 4

bob woodward and robert costa report in their book, peril, pence asked former vice president dan quayle for advice, and according to the reporting in their book, pence poked and prodded quayle for a way in which he could go along with the president's plan, but quayle was unequivocal. quote, mike, you have no flexibility on this. none, zero. forget it, put it away. quayle reportedly told him. pence also reached out to legal scholar michael luding, who is a big deal in the conservative legal world. he was a federal judge for a while. and he similarly told pence the coup plot was unconstitutional and a nonstarter, as did pence's own chief of staff, marc short, who came to the obvious conclusion, one man could not unilaterally overturn an election, disenfranchising 88 million plus voters. and to be clear here, quayle, luding, short, pence, i think they all have terrible, even odious politics, with a lot of terrible policies, pence especially deserves enduring infamy for politely overseeing one of the most destructive presidencies of my lifetime and egging it on and apologizing for it and vo

feels like the pieces that have become public so far, some through investigative reporting, robert costa and bobfield the eastman memo for the first time which was -- these people put these things in writing and passed them around amongst themselves and shopped them around on capitol hill. in investigating that third ring how important are what donald trump described to d.o.j. as his gop allies. he says, you just declare it corrupt and me and my allies have the rest. how much of this is in your sights as an investigator? >> well, they were integral to it. i think many of them have spoken publicly how they were prepared for a contingent election and ready to go in and win it. the question is how deputily enmeshed were they in the plots for example, to install clark as the attorney general and to overthrow the trump appointees who refused to go along with it? how much were they involved in the plot to try to coerce mike pence to step outside of his constitutional role and to declare these extra constitutional powers? so those are the things we are still trying to track down. chairman thompson said