bob dallek was not. it was people who really don't know what her gate well who have a smattering of knowledge about it. not at the level of dallek or woodward could do. those are the people and the reason i didn't do transcripts is because i find transcripts tedious to read. i know frank gannon also said why didn't he publishes transcripts? i have 23 volumes of three-inch notebooks. that's almost 4 billion words. i mean this is huge. >> host: so 39 years after we first saw you on the national stage on television you have returned and i'm sure in the minds of many people with applause and in the minds of some others the ghost of john dean. thanks so much. >> guest: thank you, bob. >> up next on booktv "after words" with guest host chuck todd of nbc news. this week ben carson and his latest book "one nation" what we can all do to save america's future. and at the prominent former neurosurgeon and presidential critic proposes a road out of what he calls u.s. decline. he contends his solutions appeal to ever