woodruff: bob deans, let me start with you. what is the main harm done if this pipeline extension happens? >> the main idea here is to take some of the dirtiest oil on the planet, pipe it through the bread basket of america so it can be sent overseas out of the gulf of mexico. it's not about american jobs. it's about profits for big oil companies a bad requested that needs to be denied. >> woodruff: if it'sing if through a pipeline what's the concern. >> the cal ma glo river, 30 miles of that river was destroyed two years ago by a pipeline incident using these kinds of crude. it's bad stuff. these accidents do put this heartland at risk. the thousands, hundreds of thousands of jobs, we have a quarter of a million farms and ranches in those great plains states that your map just showed. those are the real jobs in that region. we need to protect them not put them at risk. >> woodruff: you're saying they would be harmed by? >> they would certainly be put at risk by having this tar sands crude going through there. but even more imp

and bob deans is a bob deans is a director king occasion for the national resources defense council andhe author of a new book, "reckless: the political assault on the american environment." tell me about your book. >> in the last two years we have seen the single worst legislative assault in our history against the common sense safeguards would all depend on to protect our air, water, wildlife, land. we have seen more than 300 votes in the house of representatives meant to water down, undermine, delay or block altogether needed protections, and this has gone after the clean water act. the clean air act, the endangered species act. is gone after iconic places like the chesapeake bay, the appalachian mountains, the gulf of mexico. the great lakes. and it's endangering the future of our children, our health. we felt like the american people need to know about this and here's why. the american people did not ask for this reckless assault, somebody else do. the corporate polluters who spent hundreds of millions of dollars every year pumping up the campaign coffers or anybody who will take a

bob deans joins us now from washington. a guy worried about the polar bears.p there and found that the population is increasing, not decreasing. >> i love the subtitle. that is great. the reality is, president george w. bush listed polar bears for a good reason. polar bears need ice the way fish need water. it is their home. it is where they get their food. it is where they raise their families. it is literally their world. we need to stand up to the threat of climate change. david: as we can see, they are standing up for themselves, literally. the evidence does not support your case that the population is diminishing. talking about the indians that live there, they are right, there are a hell of a lot more bears. how do you dispute the evidence of people who are actually on site? >> those are old numbers. in fact -- david: he was just there. >> that is the exact same population that we had with president bush decided that these polar bears or directed. mama bears are starving. the dangers we are looking at right now is that in 20 years, these mama bears will

bob massi tomorrow seminar from florida. register, rebuilding your dreams at foxnews.com. >> steve: bobby dean and maria in the after the show show. martha: sounding the alarm on america's spending problem. the non-partisan congressional budget office says we are in for a massive and unsustainable increasing deficit if we don't get a handle on entitlements. good morning. glad to have you with us. gregg: the cbo is saying it deficit will go down to $840 billion. that's the first time it will drop a trillion dollars under president obama. martha: but with baby boomers retiring at the rate of 10,000 people a day. entitlement spending is set to explode. stuart, as we pointed out, there is a lot of enthusiasm that we won't rack up a trillion dollar deficit. >> reporter: the headline was all about the deficit is going to be below a trillion dollars. that's great news. the bad news and there is a lot of it. the next 10 years medicare will cost $1 trillion a year. obama-care subsidies will total nearly a trillion dollars. the cost of medicaid will double and the debt will go to the highest portion of tour economy than it's been in a

bob woodward's book, but we as the republican party agreed to it. we got in this mess together and we're going to have to get out together. >> joining me now are howard dean, former vermont governor and dnc chairman and chris hayes, host of msnbc's "up with chris hayes." gentlemen, thank you both for joining me. governor, youtube is an amazing thing, is it not? lest we forget republicans have their fingerprints all over the sequester. >> they look like such pathetic whiners and wimps. he voted for the damn thing, right? now he's trying to give somebody else responsibility. that is not leadership. leadership is saying i take the responsibility because i did this. at the end he doesn't look too bad. okay, we've got to get out of this together. they are whining and moaning and weeping, oh, this is someone else's idea. it's not going to fly with the american people. >> it's an underestimation of the american public. >> it is. >> graham voted no actually however john boehner and many would say the republican leadership voted sequester. chris? >> the fundamental problem here is that the approach has been to figure out a way to bind future versions of the house.