we have bob dietz, a distinguished professor of public policy at george mason. he has been the consiglio ari to the intelligence community. did you work for dulles or not? the first cia director. bob was general counsel to the nsa for eight years. amazing. he then was the counselor to the cia director general hayden, for three years. has worked in defense department, state department, and was unbelievably, a law clerk to justice william o'douglas, one of the great civil libertarians. we will get to the question of what douglas would think of your career path. >> [laughter] >> mark mazzetti of "the new york times." he has worked for "the l.a. times," earned an award for his work in afghanistan and pakistan. i will say this from the point of view from "the washington post," covers the senate and intelligence committee better than anyone. next to him at the end is peter maass, who writes for first look media. done a number of books, including the book "love thy neighbor" about the war in bosnia. i want to make this a conversation, not presentations. do not hesitate

. >> bob dietz. >> inevitably, in conferences like this, there is a lot of talk about the risks thatreporters undertake, editors undertake reporting the news. of course, the first amendment makes clear that news is important to the american people. the trouble i have is, while that role is very important, the government also has an important goal, and that is to keep the american people safe. what we are talking about here with national security leaks, we are not talking about leaks from the fda or department of agriculture, we are talking about leaks that may, in some circumstances, imperil the united states. between those two issues, the safety of the american people wins. i understand the important role the press lays, but stuff that is highly classified, provided to people who swear they will not violate the confidentiality that has been provided to them, and then going ahead and leaks it and the press publishes it, they are imperiling -- >> have there been examples of things published, that have really endanger the american people? >> yes, i do. the principle is, in the intellig

. >> bob dietz. >> inevitably, in conferences like this, there is a lot of talk about the risks thatreporters undertake, editors undertake reporting the news. of course, the first amendment makes clear that news is important to the american people. the trouble i have is, while that goal, that role is very important, the government also has an important goal, and that is to keep the american people safe. what we are talking about here with national security leaks, we are not talking about leaks from the fda or department of agriculture, we are talking about leaks that may, in some circumstances, imperil the united states. between those two issues, the safety of the american people wins. i understand the important role the press plays, but stuff that is highly classified, provided to people who swear they will not violate the confidentiality that has been provided to them, and then going ahead and leak it and the press publishes it, to me, they are imperiling -- >> have there been examples of things published, that have really endanger the american people? >> yes, i do. the principle i

everyone, toe, not use the legal term, bob dietz, admission against interest.if you can find people to talk to for a long time, they may say something that is against their interest that is true. just in the last 10 or so minutes, what is the remedy for the press, in terms of how we operate? is it to go in crete did -- e ncrypted? snowden told you, peter -- an amazing quote --unencrypted journalist communication is unforgivably reckless. encryption is required. not every communication i have requires encryption. not every relationship requires it. when it is required and you do not do it, it is reckless. do you do as a reporter, mark, in this environment? what kind of frame of mind do you go into? now i have an excuse, i can tell my editors, i talked to six people and they all hung up on me. >> that sounds pretty good, actually. >> [laughter] >> as i said, a lot of it is less efficient. i think you have to be conscious of the security of your sources. .ou are entering into a trust i think, when you are dealing with people who have been involved in government, a

the asia specialist bob dietz said until the perpetrateo of her murder and those of other journalistsre brought to continue. >> appear journalit in venzuela has been reportedly kidnapped in the capitol. the chief correspondent for global vision. her father says she was taken by masked gunmen on april 6th outside her home. he has appealed to the kidnappers to release his daughter. pinto's global vision colleagues head a mass praying for her safe return and the channel's executives urged people talking about the case over social media to do so responsibly to avoid further endangering her life. no motive has been established but kid 23457ings for ransom are common in the country. it's been a challenging time for venzuela's media workers. according to media rights groups, they have been harassed and detained by government security forces. south africans were riveted this week watching oscar pistorius trial. he has admitted to shooting his girlfriend last year but claims he miss take a look her for an intrude her h her. he is a global brand. before the trial began, t.v. stations went to co