joining me now, president and ceo of common cause, bob edgar, a former congressman and a former generalretary of the national council of church e es christ in the u.s., thanks for joining me tonight. >> it's great to be with you tonight. >> so what do you think of the thes thesis, are democrats taking the right approach by not mixing religion and politics? and by the way, i get why there's an impulse for it, but it seems the republicans are the only ones who get to claim the define on their side. >> well, i think since the 1970s when i served in congress and the religious right led by jim and tammie baker and the tell advantage lists and other had a similar marriage with ronald reagan and jimmy carter. the other person not to be supported as a christian, i think there has been this unusual marriage between the political right and religious right. i'm a progressive who believes that we ought to have separation of church and state but not separation of people of faith and institutions of government. that's why just two weeks ago i helped organize 11 faith leaders, jewish, christian, roman