that story about bob gates and reported by bob sanger, the week after the bin laden raid and stuff comingbout the delicate navy seal preparations that bob gates, secretary of defense walks in the national security's office. >> chris: i hope you are cleaning tup. >>> and shut the [bleep] up. ork withed for politics in the white house . that is not a normal things for gates to do and secretary of defense to say that. it shows how alarmed he was as part of the obama administration and shows who he blamed. if you walk in andut should the [bleep] up. you think he or the deputies were responsible for the leaks. >> these probes are enough or do we need an independent counsel. >> there is no way the democrats in the senate are going to agree to anything more. >> chris: why not just because politically? >> i think politically . further more. if these u.s. attorneys are appointed are outstand good reputation. >> chris: they are working in the structure of the justice department. >> that's true. and the law is not particularly strong that they have to work with. it is not a crime to release classifi

that story about bob gates it's not been contradicted. the week after the bin laden raid, when stuff came out. navy seal preparations, did bob gates the secretary of defense walks into the security office and says, shut the blank up. >> unless he changed a lot, that is not a normal thing for the secretary of defense and walk into advise's office. it showing how alarmed he was. if you think you should the blank up, do you think he the national security advisor who are or his deputies were responsible. >> chris: are these enough that holder has authorized or do we need an independent council. >> there is no way in the senate to agree, there is no way the white house is going to agree. >> chris: why not, because politically? >> politically. furthermore, these u.s. attorneys appointed have good reputations. >> chris: they are working within the structure of the justice departmental. >> that is true. but don't forget the law is not strong that they have to work with here. it's not a crime, look at that, to release classified information. i'm n

i think the administration should heed the advice of form he defense secretary bob gates when after theetails were coming out, he promptly went over to the white house and used some colorful language to try to stop any more leaks from during. >> speaker boehner referring to information that began to come out following the death of bin laden. isn't this a classic case of republicans, and we've had john mccain saying it today. we've had speaker boehner, of taking what is the president's success and throwing it back at him using the idea of leaks. can you remember an administration which didn't leak? >> no. certainly. there's even greater irony that member of congress are calling attention to the problem of leaking when congress leaks like a siave. the public's right to know and classified information in the case of osama bin laden, the guy was dead. i don't think that there were a whole lot of risks there. the issue there was the politicalization of national security as an issue and president obama's successes and i think that that is about concern. if you want to look at that, i think an

in boasting about the raid, they spoke about it in a way that had bob gates screaming at the national security adviser to shut the blank up. as a result of the leak about the dna evidence, anybody with an iq of 7 would understand that it ended up in the rest of afridi -- arrest of afridi, who will be in jail for the rest of his life. this is administration trying to dance on the grave of bin laden, trying to boast about how tough this president is on stuxnet, which is hurting the country and could be costing lives. >> this does give us a look into the national security approach of the two people would be president. mitt romney has said the number one geopolitical threat the united states faces is russia. he has been contradicted by virtually every thoughtful republican on the subject. this gives a sense of what the obama people think and will be helpful to president obama. i would remind them of norman schwarzkopf's great line, when he was praised for his courage in running the first persian gulf war successfully. he said it does not take courage to order men into battle. it takes cou

. >> dana: do you think bob gates, the secretary, tom donelan anecdote in the sanger book is accuratee in and said i have p.r. advice for you. shut the hmmm up. that is my ominous undercarolina coming through. >> bob: orchestrate a political campaign that involves a lot of people and it will never work out. >> dana: everybody loved the leak when it was against president bush. >> kimberly: exactly. now this benefits president obama just in time when his numbers aren't looking good. isn't that interesting? >> bob: there is a conclusion. >> kimberly: directly ahead. yes, it is. thank you for playing. does howard dean need to see a doctor? does greg gutfeld? absolutely. he sounds like a lune nick the latest rant. we'll play it for you when we come back. please stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> greg: i love that billy joel. saturday, i went to the museum. and checked out all the greek statues from 200 to 300 b.c. they were naked. i realize sculptures weren't good at all. the only reason why they are revered is because they're old. then it dawned on me the sculptors were pervs trying to get models o

i'm sorry, bob gates. i mean, i -- i went the other way tore 15 years, but as milton freedman once said in his book called "free to choose," it's a rational decision on my part which is taking advantage of the circumstances that exist. we've got to come to the grip with the fact that we have a volunteer armed force. we have a much more capital intensive force than we've ever had. we're never again going to meblize like we did for korea where we wind up bringing 3 million people on board. that's just not going to happen this. country does not mobilize anymore. in fact, if you like at the ten-year period of this conflict, even though the budget has gone up, right, 60% in real terms, we've actually really only gone up 2% in military manpower. the army and marine corps went up, the army and navy went down. 8% fewer airplanes, 8% fewer ships. it's a capital-intensive service. that's just the way it is, so we're going to have to, as rebecca has suggested, take a deep breath, take a step back, holistically look a

as many old boss former secretary of defense and former cia director bob gates once observed and i quote, each person in public service has his or her own story and motives. but i believe if you scratch deeply enough you will find that those who serve no matter how outwardly tough or jaded or egg tisical are row mantings and idealists and optimists. we believe we can make a difference. that we can improve the lives of others, that we can better the future of this country and the world. i agree wholeheartedly with secretary gates' sentiment. and never forget service can take many, many forms as i'm sure you've learned from your time at dickinson and in reflecting on benjamin rush's and john dickinson's views of engaged and educated citizens furthering american patriotism and liberty. and dickinson's public service fellowship program and its participation in the education and enhancement program among many other initiatives here have put those values into action. in fact, i'd like to take a moment to point out again, the selfless service of one dickinson graduate in particular, my wife, ho

york times" has a book out this week and one thing he says is after the bin laden raid, secretary bob gates no longer secretary, at the time he went to the national security advisor who asked for his advice on communications. secretary gates said here is my best p.r. advice. shut the -- hmm -- up. >> greg: what did he say? >> dana: a bleeped word. a banned word. >> bob: i've said it before. i'll do it for you. >> dana: if you have the secretary of defense and he is worried about the national security problems from the leaks because they were using it to make president obama look better, then actually he didn't even need help. he looks good on. >> kimberly: he did. they overplayed their hand. he has to deny it and have plausible deniability. i didn't do it. nothing to do with us. >> bob: you think the president of the united states called in people and said we're going to leak that stuff? >> kimberly: nobody is that naive. >> greg: helping him out. it could be biden. biden talks about everything. >> dana: or the campaign. they were in the national security meeting. >> eric: in the "new york

to have direct -- >> i did a recent interview with bob gates. they were very clear about that. they went over to china to try to make sure they had that kind of relationship because you don't want the military to turn inward, in terms of more nationalistic and more imperialistic, which has never been part of the chinese culture. >> the people on the periphery, they have a somewhat more wary view of chinese expansionism than people in europe. >> rose: indeed, that's right. if you were in korea it's different than if you are in france. >> it's been continentally confined. i think what secretary gates was doing and admiral mullen and other people in the navy, that really has long term importanceav getting to know the chinese counter-parts. q. what's the relationship toda? >> that really has taken me aback -- >> you know japan. >> when i was living in japan in the mid-80s, and i would go to china, there was a leftover world war ii resentment. there's more of it now. weirdly, people in their 20s who are born -- >> these are japanese? >> . >> no, chinese resentment against japan. the

. >> dana: do you think bob gates, the secretary, tom donelan anecdote in the sanger book is accurate said i have p.r. advice for you. shut the hmmm up. that is my ominous undercarolina coming through. >> bob: orchestrate a political campaign that involves a lot of people and it will never work out. >> dana: everybody loved the leak when it was against president bush. >> kimberly: exactly. now this benefits president obama just in time when his numbers aren't looking good. isn't that interesting? >> bob: there is a conclusion. >> kimberly: directly ahead. yes, it is. thank you for playing. does howard dean need to see a doctor? does greg gutfeld? absolutely. he sounds like a lune nick the latest rant. we'll play it for you when we come back. please stay with us. ♪ ♪ if there was a pill to help protect your eye health as you age... would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye-care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. [ male anno

bob gates, secretary of defense, democratic and republican administrations, professional goes in tomy according to book and no one contradicted it and says i have strategic communications advice for you. he says shut the blank up. that is the secretary of defense saying that to the national security advisor of the president of the united states personally in the white house. how angry do you have to bo b to the damage done to the national security to go in and say that? >> bret: it seems like there is a pushback about a possible independent council. white house saying they don't want that and don't agree with that. these investigations are bipartisan. extense i, it seems. >> that is what making ill danieling, it's bipartisan. a couple of democrats today try to downplay it saying this is just typical election year stuff. but it's not. you have senator feinstein enraged saying you make it difficult to work with other countries. you have liberals that criticized him for the fact that the same criticism john mccain made. you are prosecuting people like bradley manning, and sanking leaks

and you had a faction led by hillary clinton and bob gates the defense secretary at the time, you don't want to push president mubarak out until you have a pretty good understanding of what's going to follow. you know, what gates always used to say before he left washington is the question, the three words never heard in washington enough and then what, okay. and he raised that same issue i think when you spoke to him a few weeks ago. in this case, the and then what looked pretty scary to them. there was a younger group within the whitehouse that could imagine themselves in tahrir square with those students. and they said you have to get on the right side history. >> rose: who is in that group? >> well that group included ben rhodes, the deputy of the security advisor and speech writer, dennis mcdonau, a fairly large group of sort of mid 30's, early 40's advisors who believed that at this point mubarak couldn't be saved. >> rose: national security advisor. >> mr. dawn lynn in the course of that sided more with you got to give him a push. but he seemed to have, you know, some sympathy fo

, our comes-- diplomat and development experts -- call it the three d.s of forepolicy-- and both bob gates and leon panetta were real champions of this because they recognized if we weren't working as an american team, we were going to get out of balance pup know, it's not been an easy relationship because there are different culturees, different expectations about what we're work for, what kind of result we're seeking. but with we've learned to not just coist but cooperate in the field, on the ground. you know, i give out heroism awards. i've given out about 30 of them the last three and a half years. they've gone to difficults who have saved victims lives and p.r.t.s in iraq. difficult and development experts who literally have been on the front leans in afghanistan. so we're shaping an expeditionary diplomacy for the 21st century that has to work hand in in hand with the military. >> your foreign policy has got to be supported strongly by the military but it has got to have a disappointive component. i always said diplomacy is best practiced with a male fist. that's where the military c

and bob gates, secretary gates is a it is a turn man. his -- taciturn man.im to come out this strongly means that -- tells me that the gravity of the damage done is even worse than we know at present. so very much so. martha: all right. ralph peters, thank you very much. very strong words, and we'll see where it goes from here. thank you, sir. >> my pleasure. put 'em in jail. martha: so coming up, is the white house also facing new scrutiny over green jobs today? a recent report sheds light on the questions of the numbers. my mother made the best toffee in the world. it's delicious. so now we've turned her toffee into a business. my goal was to take an idea and make it happen. i'm janet long and i formed my toffee company through legalzoom. i never really thought i would make money doing what i love. [ shapiro ] we created legalzoom to help people start their business and launch their dreams. go to legalzoom.com today and make your business dream a reality. at legalzoom.com, we put the law on your side. ♪ martha: oh, my gosh, feel the heat. we all agree that

writers say they all came from the white house and david sanger recounts a scene in his book and bob gatesity advisor tom donelon's office and says, shut the blank up. how can the president possibly say it's not coming from the white house and the writers say -- >> he's quoting people from the white house, and you don't have 12 sources, a dozen sources, either former or current white house people who have not been cleared by the top. so, it is interesting, i mean, while they are still going to try to go after those leaks, and try to fry "the new york times" which is, of course, all of this makes obama look good, the new direction is africa and it would probably be something now if we paid more attention to what is going on there and i promise you, that everyone will be buying a ticket to one of those countries to see exactly what is up. >> gregg: i'll leave you with this, dianne feinstein of the intelligence committee said to the "san francisco chronicle," i'm getting more intelligence information from david sanger's book than my own committee. thanks very much, liz trotta. >> heather: hav

secretary of bob gates i thought in the white house situation room we agreed we would not give out thenext page they were on the front page of "the new york times." most recently underwear bomber, the new underwear bomber which was a sting operation. there are a lot of details including who were the operatives, what happened, how did it go down? potentially that operation hadn't even been completed before the leaks came out. bill: clearly there is intent behind these stories? >> well --. bill: writers are not just making them up. >> there is intent and a lot of detail in them. what seems to be the pattern there is leak comes out of washington or the administration. and then the administration briefs on it but gives out awful lot of operational details particularly in the cyber area where you put up the map where "the new york times" had a lot of information about the iranian nuclear activities, enrichment project, that really only came from intelligence sources. this is not the first time that i've seen this stuff in the paper. bill: welling specifically on that point, kt, it was calle

bob gates.defense a man i shared the office with in the 1970s when the leaks went off, he was so angry he went to the national security adviser and said, let's have a new communications strategy, shut the blank up. this is dangers lives and sources and methods and has a far reaching effect on national security. gregg: sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for in terms of special prosecutors, independent counsel and so forth, that can lead to all kinds of things, including it led to watergate, didn't it? >> when i was in the white house president nixon was so upset about the seeks that he saw coming from his administration about the vietnam war that that set in motion the watergate break ins, the cover ups, independent prosecutors and ultimately president nixon's resignation. leaks are a bad business when they happen and they take on a practice skwrebgt tree o trajectory of your own. be careful what you wish for if you put out more details about the president's personal involvement. it c