. >> the former secretary of defense bob gates said to me, we are not using all of the weapons in our arsenal that are not necessarily military but could play a role. we have not employed those enough. you have had a lot to do with that in afghanistan. why was that so difficult? >> it goes back to politics. fundamentally, in afghanistan, this was a state that was destroyed. it was destroyed by the soviet occupation. a destructive civil war. then the taliban regime destroyed institutions we would recognize. after 2003, taking an approach to the military affairs enabling militias through our air power advisers, after the collapse of the taliban, which was a psychological collapse, what you had in the wake is you have a help pull the state together to get a viable state. you have the bond conference. but, the institution building -- we didn't have enough of an effort there. the state institution functions were captured by these militias which were organized crime networks. they affected state capture institutions. they were driven by criminal agendas -- mainly by political agendas. amass

. >> you hear that from people like bob gates, john mccain.o many republicans at that level have had working relationships. date the trails, cia director -- etraeus.p >> where do you start the book? >> making a knotty and nice list in 2008. >> what was it about? -- making a naughty and nice list. felt had betrayed her. tracking all of these delegates along the way. one toted each of them seven. >> they also took account of the fact there were times in which president clinton had done things for these people and when push came to shove, they were not there for hillary clinton. >> bill clinton was the lead democratic president other than jimmy carter who was to live and therefore had done something for almost everybody in the democratic party. i think the clintons believed when she ran for president that all those people would coalesce around her and they did not feel like people fell them loyalty. >> as she embarrassed about the list? i get the sense that president clinton does not like that being out there. in 2010-2012 election cycles, he wen

one of the men was bob gates who became the secretary of defense.ked him about bush 41's legacy? >> his legacy is coming in chlor focus now. and as i said on a number of occasions, there is no precedence for the collapse of soviet union and major war. and only now is he beginning to get the credit he deserves. >> reporter: i asked about his now in russia and the role the u.s. is or isn't pleaing. we talked about the changes to the law and where he thinks it will go. you can see those brews 1 o'clock tomorrow and long with the exclusive sit down with jeb bush. we'll talk to him about his father's legacy and health care and immigration and we'll ask him about 2016. harris, back to you. >> shannon, thank you. watch tomorrow for the exclusive interview for florida governor jeb bush. and she will ask him about health care and whether jeb bush plans to make a run in 2016. you can catch that tomorrow. >> and so the black boxes and beacon batteries and estimate to run down and out of pour in less than two days from now with the missing malaysian airline. wh

bob gates said he disagreed with him on every foreign policy issue. so joe biden has to prove that the president's foreign policy has kept us safer, has made us stronger, and that he made the right decision in places like syria and places like ukraine. >> gloria borger, thanks very much. >>> up next, new legal window allows lawsuits by flight 370 family members. could it force the release new information? and the u.s. supreme court deals a blow to the affirmative action program at universities. across america, people like basketball hall of famer dominique wilkins, are taking charge of their type 2 diabetes with non-insulin victoza. for a while, i took a pill to lower my blood sugar, but it didn't get me to my goal. so i asked my doctor about victoza. he said victoza works differently than pills, and comes in a pen. and the needle is thin. victoza is an injectable prescription medicine that may improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. it is not recommended as the first medication to treat diabetes and should

. >> bob gates. a seattle man. >> yeah. he really sensitized me to a number of issues.he last 10 years, 2.5 million men and women have been at war. the country though is somewhat oblivious to the fact that these 2.5 million people have risk their lives for us and oblivious because it is mostly -- it is an all volunteer service. they are coming back not to a parade, not to celebration and a million plus our entering civilian life. there are 20 suicide today -- suicides a day. when percent to 40%, coming back with some form of brain trauma. no access to jobs. >> so many of them survived that they might not have survived an early war. >> that is correct. i feel of all the things going on in our society, and everything that has left -- happened in the last 10 years, we need to so brady's people. we need to be responsible for them. my wife and i are giving $30 million away in three buckets. job training, trying to help the unsung heroes of the families who have lost fallen warriors, and the issue of research around brain trauma. >> there does not seem to be any coordination

as we talked about in bob gates' book, it was later exposed, it was a gut check that a lot of us felt, he didn't believe in that mission from the beginning. if you're serving there, you want to know the guys sending you there has got your back to finish it properly, that was always in doubt, i think it's more a gut reflection than an indictment of the policies of either commander. >> it's amazing, they say, only 44% of the veterans believe the war in iraq was worth fighting. 50% believe that about afghanistan. 89% of the veterans said they would join the military again. it's incredible how patriotic they are and how they don't complain. the vast majority of veterans are not bitter or warful. >> if there's one word i took away from this generation, it's resolve. they doubled down to get it done, these are folks that want a commander in chief that believes in them. >>> 52 americans were held for 444 days. one of the iranian hostage takers is getting a big job at the united nations. what will the white house do? one of those american hostages a war vet is here. you have got to hear what

he went on to become the country's 41st president and had bob gates the head of the cia. he went on to become the secretary of defense. coming up, we'll talk to him about the numerous foreign policy challenges the u.s. is facing now. >>> his legacy is coming into clearer focus now as i have said on a number of occasions. there's no press debcedent in h for the collapse of a major empire like the soviet union without a major war, and only now is he beginning to get the credit that he deserves. marg you know, there's a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. try phillips fiber good gummies. they're delicious, and a good source of fiber to help support regularity. wife: mmmm husband: these are good! marge: the tasty side of fiber. from phillips. visit truecar.comoney,com,t and never overpay.yer's remorse. a good deal or not. "okay, this is the price,"sman comes and you're like.ells you, but they have to use special care in keeping the denture clean. dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can multiply.

. >> don't forget, some things to answer for, former secretary of defense bob gates has written a book that was critical of her. particularly about her political look at certain issues overseas, we'll see how she answers those because those will be read side by side. >> o'donnell: more to talk about we'll be right back with more. predicting the future is a pretty difficult thing to do. but, manufacturing in the united states means advanced technology. we learned that technology allows us to be craft oriented. no one's losing their job. there's no beer robot that has suddenly chased them out. the technology is actually creating new jobs. siemens designed and built the right tools and resources to get the job done. >> o'donnell: we're back with more. one of the major issues is obamacare and president was championing the fact that eight million americans have signed up for health insurance and he gave this advice to democrats running for re-election. >> i don't think we should apologize for it. i don't think we should be defensive about it. i think there is a strong, good, right story to

. >> charlie: you hear that from bob gates, john mccain. not in every instance, but some republicans at that level have had working relationships -- dave petraeus as c.i.a. director and general. >> petraeus told us he thought she would make a tremendous president. >> charlie: you pick up the book where in her life? >> at the end of the 2008 primary with a couple of her aides making out a list, a naughty and nice list of -- >> charlie: what was the list about? >> so the list was about keeping track of who was very loyal to her among democratic members of congress and who she felt betrayed her, her aides were tracking each of these delegates along the way, and they raided each of -- rated each of them 1 to 7. >> charlie: they also took account of the fact in which there were times president clinton had done things for people and when push came to shove they were not there for hillary. >> if you look at it, bill clinton was the only democratic president other than jimmy carter who was still alive and therefore had done something for almost eve

when you look at that specific example and of course as you know bob gates, the president, presidentary of defense, who oversaw the shift away from that policy, and is going to be the president of the boy scouts, what would you want to say off to him tonight or say publicly. what he should do? >> i hope he will extend the same courtesy in the scouts as he did in the military. he knows firsthand that don't ask don't tell does not work in the military. so, he should also know that's it doesn't work in the boy scouts of america. >> uh-huh. and, and, let me ask you, zach. i want to actually read something that garrett had said here. excuse me that one scouting official had said to nbc news. the way we look at it we want to be a safe haven for kids and that's where we are at. and we don't want sex of any type in camp either heterosexual or homosexual or anything. not to put too fine a point on it. but how much of this relates back to some sort of idea or stigma that someone who happens to be gay is going to be more likely to have sex in a context that would be obviously inappropriate ther

of her legacy, in a strange way, is a washington story nobody really talks about and that is -- bob gates did in his book -- and that is each succeeding white house brings more and more power to the white house. cabinet officials become essentially figureheads to a great degree, i mean, state probably less than others. i've thing is micromanaged from the white house. the idea that the healthcare plan, the biggest initiative of this administration, the most historic action was not going to be managed by the white house was just absolutely -- it just couldn't be true. they were on it and in it up to their eyebrows so, when it went wrong, somebody had to take the hit, and that was kathleen sebelius. she took it. she was secretary of h.h.s., stepped up manfully, to use a bad add verb, she took responsibility, accountability, apologized, and if it works -- because the rule is very simple, anything that goes right the president gets credit. anything that goes wrong, it goes to someone else. if this works out and healthcare turns out the way supporters and many americans want it to, all credit g

i have spoken to writers, other generalists, leaders, former secretary of defense bob gates writes in his memoir, afghanistan was the proving ground for islamic fundamentalism in the muslim world, and by invading iraq, there was necessarily a transfer of tremendous resources to fight the war in iraq, and today the taliban is resurgent and still very powerful in pakistan and could be once again in afghanistan. so part one to that -- >> right. >> -- did you, did president bush, did the west fail to deal with the extremism you talk about today appropriately in afghanistan in a sustainable way? >> i think we did, but i think we've got to recognize one thing very, very clearly. this is a long battle. the best way to look at this is to take an analogy probably with something like revolutionary communism or even fascism. in other words, this ideology is not going to be defeated by an engagement in afghanistan, in iraq, or even in these individual arenas. it's going to be defeated over a long period of time -- >> right, but it's very difficult -- you're a former politician. in order to keep f

bob gates came in, one of the great team players you're ever going to encounter. in the second bush term had a much better and more effective foreign-policy ordination and execution than the first term. into lessons carried over the obama administration. the reality about the obama administration, there was very intensive policy process, and that continues to this day. from secretary clinton to jim steinberg when he was deputy national or deputy secretary of state, even jack lew as deputy secretary of state, they got pulled into five or six deputy committee meetings on a daily basis. at some point, a couple of my colleagues of the assistant secretary level were saying, do you have any more meetings? we will be able to do what they've told us to do because by the time we get out of a policy meeting, they have gone to bed and region x, y, or z. there is tremendous coordination. in the public diplomacy cents, i have daily interactions with my c andagues at the nf others. i knew whatever was in my book --dow to the podium to brief when i went to the podium to brief, t

. >> charlie: bob gates, a seattle man. >> yeah. he really sensitized me to a number of issues. for the last ten years, 2.5 million men and women have been at war. the country, though, is somewhat oblivious to the fact that these 2.5 million people have risked their lives for us and oblivious because it's mostly -- well, it is an all volunteer service. they're coming back not to a parade, not to celebration, and a million-plus are now entering civilian life. there are about 20 suicides a day. about 20, 3040%, depending on what study you believe, are coming back with some form of brain trauma, no access to jobs. >> charlie: part of that is so many survived what they might not have survived in an earlier war. >> that's correct. so i feel, of all the things going on in our society and everything that's happened in the last ten years, we need to celebrate these people. we need to be responsible for them. so my wife and i are giving $30 million away in three buckets -- job training, trying to help the unsung heros of the families who have lost fallen warriors, and the issue around th

we talked with ben carson, with former defense secretary bob gates, who served as cia director under1. and also, we'll have an exclusive sit-down, one on one with jeb bush, all tomorrow. >> okay, lots and lots coming out of there from college station, shannon. i'll be watching. thank you so much. >> yeah, that's pretty exciting, isn't it? >> yeah. >> all right. >>> a catholic archbishop gets in over his head. the controversy could end up costing someone a king's ransom. that story's straight ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the nissan altima with nasa inspired zero gravity seats. ♪ let it take the weight off your drive. ♪ nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ ♪ i ♪ and i got the tools ira ♪ to do it my way ♪ i got a lock on equities ♪ that's why i'm type e ♪ ♪ that's why i'm tyyyyype eeeee, ♪ ♪ i can do it all from my mobile phone ♪ ♪ that's why i'm tyyyyype eeeee, ♪ ♪ if i need some help i'm not alone ♪ ♪ we're all tyyyyype eeeee, ♪ ♪ we've got a place that we call home ♪ ♪ we're all type e ♪ hi dad. she's a dietitian. and back when i wasn't eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's

bob gates came in one of the great team players you will ever encounter, and the second bush term had a much better and more effective foreign policy coordination and execution than happened in the first term. i think that -- those lessans carried over into the obama administration. the reality about the obama administration there was very intensive policy process, and that continues to this day, from secretary clinton to jim steinberg when he was deputy national security -- deputy secretary of state, even jack lew as deputy secretary of state, bill burns. they got pulled into fifth or six deputy committee meetings on a daily basis. at some point a couple of my colleagues at the assistant secretary level were saying, we have anymore meetings we'll be able to do what they told us to do. by the time get out of a policy meeting in region x, y, z, they've gone to bed. so there's tremendous coordination. in the public diplomacy sense, i had daily interactions with my colleagues over at the nsc and others. i knew that whatever was in my book, when i went to the podium to brief, the policy g

you look at the bob gates book and how biden positioned himself on questions like afghanistan but, neverthelessy that jeb bush does. >> one more story. the majority leader harry reid in the news again doubling down on his criticism of the koch brothers who he recently described as un-american. charles koch respond inside a recently "wall street journal" op-ed where he described the democrats attacks as character assassination. senator reid, however, doesn't seem the least bit bothered. >> most people hear from me the koch brothers. i've helped them maim them a little more infamous or famous and i'm glad i've done that. these two are a pair of shadow billionaires and spending millions of dollars to rig our political system and who does it help? them. by every indication, my republican colleagues are falling overthemselves to help advance their self-described radical -- already we have had one senator run to the senate floor and he read word for word that op-ed piece on the floor. >> michael steele, we wondered last hour where the senate majority leader persists going after the koch brothers. i t

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many people don't feel safe particularly since 67 people were killed last year at west gate shopping center. al-sha bobs the blood shed was its handy work but much is unsolved and the scene of the latest attack is known as little mogadusih and the nairobi and somali community and is more sense in the last week since the government said all refugees most of who are somali must leave the city and go back to designated refugee camps and that is because some of the people responsible for recent attacks have been refugees and the people argue they are suffering collective punishments for reactions of a few, tonya page in nairobi. >> reporter: the trial has been postponed until october and uhuru kenyatta is accused of wave of violence in 2007 and people died at the time and the trial is delayed to give the kenya government more time to provide evidence. in other news the u.s. secretary of state has met met israeli benjamin netanyahu in jerusalem but he did not meet the palestinian president and is on his way back to brussels. for more let's go to stephanie decker who is in jerusalem for us. stephanie, this w

she's there, omaily or cuomo or anyone will not be able to get out of the gates where republicans have ten different options. >> to bob's point, if she starts to raise money for a possible presidential run but decides not to run, under the campaign finance laws which we'll talk about in the next block, she could give the money to somebody else. actually, it's not that hard to be a democrat today. they're sitting like fat ducks. >> if you were governor omaily, could you winceconvince a govero support you? >> if you were governor o'malley, you could not convince anybody. you would not win. >> and that is that. >> if she doesn't run, she'll be a very good power broker in who does get the nomination. good she decides to tilt one way or another, that's a huge get if you can get it. >> we can all agree, she will be a powerful player in 2016. >>> ahead, facebook friday returns. that's right. we're going to answer your questions. go to .com/thefivefnc and post them. >>> next, a supreme court ruling on money that sets off a firestorm from the left. dana has the details coming up next. stay with us. on this side of th not about t

senator bob casey of pennsylvania has introduced a bill that would require a secondary barrier or a gate protect flight crews in commercial aircraft. he's joining me now to talk about this bill. senator, thanks for being with me. >> thanks, brianna. >> and, you know, when you look at this, why do commercial airliners need another barrier? there's already one, but why is a secondary one needed, in your opinion? >> well, they need it because the evidence shows that there's not enough security even all these years after 9/11. the faa and others that have looked at this indicated that this kind of secondary barrier would be the most cost-effective, efficient, and effective way to provide a full measure of security. i think it's essentially that the airlines discontinue their opposition to this even in advance of passing legislation, but we're going to continue to move forward with our legislation. >> and let's bring in now cnn aviation analyst miles o'brien as well as les abend, also cnn aviation analyst. he's 77 pilot as well. when you look at this which senator casey and others were propos

bob woodward, of all people, who dealt with the nixon white house, tangled with them on water gate, he was talking about this very unusual degree of sort of bullying and intimidation tactics that were used against him when he was reporting things at the obama administration was unhappy with regarding the skwe sequester fight last year. if you have atkisson and wood woord telling the same story, that's not even the whole spying on journalists thing. >> it will be interesting to see what she says in the next installment. moving on to health care. sebelius now out, send ya berwell coming in. it is going to be a fresh face but is it the same story? >> it is going to be the same law that's in many cases harming americans. when republicans try to go about asking miss burwell questions in her confirmation hearings coming up in the coming weeks, how do they frame things in such a way as to move the story forward? because if they keep pushing backwards and pointing the finger at sebelius' errant decisions, i think that gives burwell the opportunity to say well, i wasn't here at that time. we're

bob, and he has kindly agreed to tell me everything i need to know about casting. i'm going to suit up and next, we're in the water. >> what any gentleman should do. golden gate angling has free lessons the second saturday of every month. we have equipment show up on the 9:30 on the second saturday of every month and we'll teach them to fly cast. >> ok. we are in the water. >> let me acquaint you with the fly rod. >> nice to meet you. >> this is the lower grip and the upper grip. this is a reel and a fly line. we are going to use the flex of this rod to fling away. exactly as you moved your hands. >> that's it? >> that's it. >> i'm a natural. >> push both arms forward and snap the lower hand into your tummy. push forward. >> i did gave it a try and had great time but i might need some more practice. i met someone else with real fly casting skills. her name is donna and she is an international fly casting champion. >> i have competed in the casting ponds in golden gate park in san francisco. i have been to japan and norway for fly casting competition. i spend my weekends here at the club and at the casting pond. it's a great place to learn and have fun. on a s

pbs, npr, c-span on fox. 2006 at 2008, bob was visiting professor at the naval academy or he tied a course entitled global security challenges and 2009 robert gates pointed him to the defense policy board which is an advisory committee to the united states department of defense and a search on the body for two years. his thoughtful writings have garnered him enough a lot of praise. to test the newest recipient of the winship award for excellence in international reporting. 2002 he was supportive united states state department distinguished public service award. "new york times" columnist thomas friedman called the monica smiled authors in the post-cold era along with harvard professor samuel p. can any of professor paul kennedy. her company indeed. perhaps this explains why in 2011 foreign policy magazine named captain monica was most tough global 100 thinkers. so i think we could fill a room like this any night by asking if you want to come tell us what you think game. we are specially privileged to hear him talk and give thoughts on his newest book, "asia's cauldron: the south china sea and the end of a stable pacific." ia's book is extremely t

making the mark this week, senator bob casey of pennsylvania acting on a request by ellen saricini who died in the 9/11 attacks. it is a bill to provide a secondary gateis needed to protect the crews in the cockpit. >> well, they need it, because the evidence shows that there is not enough security even after all of these years after 9/11, and the faa and others who have looked at it have indicated that the secondary barrier is the most cost effective the and efficient way to provide a full measure of security. i think that it's essential that the airlines discontinue the opposition to this. even in advance of passing legislation, but we are going to continue to move forward with the legislation. >> senator casey introduced the bill last year on september 11th, and he says he e hopes it will become law. let e let's talk about it more with the cnn aviation analyst miles o'brien, and les abend, cnn pilot analyst. and so i know ta you have real issues of why this secondary barrier has taken so long to be approved. tell us about the process? >> well, start with the common sense thing that we can all agree on, this is simply a good idea. since 9/11 and the

bob rubin. she was his chief of staff. very highly regarded by everyone who worked with her. it was not a surprise when she landed a big job with the gatesndation. i think that, wolf, when i was -- when they were looking for a new person to run the gates foundation three years ago, sylvia's name was prominently mentioned but it was felt she was a little young for it still. but the next turnaround, they would do it. then the walmart foundation hired her. she went down to arkansas. very dedicated to working with, you know, people who have been left behind. as the walmart foundation does. and then came back up to help run -- well, to run the office of management and budget. she's not a publicity seeker. but she'll handle herself very well in the hearings i think. list listen, anybody who can stand up to questioning from bill gates can stand up to congress. >> she has no problem getting confirmed under the new rules. they can't filibuster her nomination, right, dana? >> right, under the new rules, any administration nominee can go through with 51, a simple majority. >> the democrats have 55. >> the democrats have 55. certainly there are demo

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bob, stay with us. let's talk about it. we're going to get back into this whole area once again here. >> yeah. let's get some more reaction from rich gatescapital who was the whistle-blower cited in flash boys. he joins us along with ronald, ceo of steiffel. >> i don't have a dog in that fight but i will start by saying to the individual investors that are out there watching the show, markets are not rigged. so we can go from there. >> rich, i haven't read the book yet. i apologize, but you're highlighted in this book. i don't know the answer to this question. do you agree with michael lewis, is the market rigged? >> the market has issues. the market has opportunity to get better. the market has been getting better since the 1800s. one of the characters in the book, one of the flash boys, is quoted around page 100 talking about the milestones that have taken place in the last 100 years and the improvements. this is just another milestone. >> what would you like to see happen here? what changes need to be made? >> look -- >> i would like to see -- >> go ahead, rich. >> i would like to see everybody keep their eyes on iex very, very closel

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