bob gates is used to leading.this is not a guy who is used to sitting on the back seat and rubbing his hands and wondering what to do next. he's a leader and he's leading. >> i like that guy. current policy allows gay scouts but bans openly gay adult scoutmasters. we're joined by the "hardball" roundtable perry baker and fran chesso and jonathan allen of vox. perry, i was in the scouts for years and had the time of my life and we're going to talk about it at the end of the show and i liked as teens spending time with adults on an intellectual basis, we had musicians and would go away to scout camp as service volunteers. i loved it. what do you think this ban possibly going? >> i think bob gates is making a logical decision, in reality the way america is headed saying a person who is gay cannot do anything and being tolerated, i think the supreme court ruling will move things in another direction and we'll have gay marriage everywhere in a few weeks and i think bob gates has acknowledged what happens and you can't

we spoke friday to bob gates at the college of william and mary in williamsburg virginia. where he is chancellor. secretary gates best selling book "duty: memoirs of secretary at war" is now out in paperback we asked among other things what he thought about the nuclear deal with iran. >> first of all getting iranians to the negotiating table in the first place was a success for u.s. foreign policy. they came tote table because the economy was being strangled and leadership was afraid they might get overthrown. they there are because they have to be there. i think the agreement, there's some specifics in the agreement that are very encouraging but i have several concerns that i hope can be addressed in negotiations between now and june. first is the timing of the lifting of the sanctions. is it -- are they going to be lifted right away. as long as the iranians agree to implement the agreement. or will they be phased over time based on performance which has been our position all along. second is verification. unless we have on-demand inspections at all facilities including mi

charlie: you've had to have heard this more than once, but bob gates repeated it with me last night,he biggest security threat to the united states is in washington and gridlock and our inability to maintain the growth and investment that has given us all the power we have. joe: i think gridlock is a problem, but it's also worth noticing there is a lot of dynamism outside of washington. for example, 10 years ago we said america was hopelessly dependent on oil from the middle east. today, with fracking, we are now looking at a north america which is -- charlie: that is not going to rebuild the infrastructure of america, silicon valley is not going to rebuild the infrastructure of america, is it? joe: no, but it provides a tremendous boost. if you look at the key technologies of the point first -- of the 21st century biotechnology, nanotechnology, the u.s. is at the forefront of those. charlie: but those things got their seed 15 years ago, before we had the crisis we have now with the inability to even have a budget. joe: i think we went through a bad spell, particularly after 2008, wi

they like to complain about it and always have. >> rose: bob gates agrees with you, i think, i think i know where you are. we have notes --ed the other levers of, we haven't effectively used it not only it those place where's we're in conflict-- iraq, afghanistan-- but in other places. >> we have to use a wider range of tools in our toolbox. the american government is conducted in such a way-- and i speak as a former assistant secretary of defense, where we have a giant and a lot of pygmies and the giant is, obviously, the pentagon, but state and aid and other branches of the government just don't have the same kind of resources. >> rose: the last subject about america and is america in retreat? there is also this question raiseed by the president inviting the arab leaders and who didn't come and for whatever reason they didn't come, but it is this notion because of red lines and other things, america is not trusted as much as it used to be. and arab countries and allies have questions. >> well, that's particularly true in the middle east. and i think it reflects the problems that we

i want to thank my great friend and your chancellor bob gates. i want to thank you for your life of exemplary service to our country. i want to thank the president of the college. you have done such a marvelous job of leading this fine institution. to the rector and the board thank you for your leadership of william and mary. the faculty who have guided these graduates through their academic paces to academic success, and to the staff who have nurtured them and care for them. to family and friends, thank you for your support and love of the graduates and the class of 2015 congratulations. [applause] as an academic i'm pleased to be , here because this is such a respected place of learning, and has had such an important role in the history of our country. as a southerner it is closer to my roots, and as a sports fan i want to know that things your football coach, i now have enough t-shirts and hats and golf balls to be a member of the tribe for the rest of my life. [laughter] [applause] it has many years since my own undergraduate commencement, i

bob gates said it right today, they have no strategy at all in iraq or the middle east. they have the audacity to call it an overall success. find me one success. air strikes haven't rolled them back. the iraqi army is not capable. the political resolutions they always talk about, iran is closer to baghdad than it's ever been. >> describe the success, he was challenged on that assertion by jonathan karl. >> would you say that overall the strategy has been a success? >> over all, yes it doesn't mean there have been areas of set back. >> almost all of an bar province is gone. >> i got a call these are not the detroits you're looking for, failure equals success. in we say it's so it is so. from yemen, it's a suckess, a failure. a model of 21st century warfare. reset in russia? it's going to work, no, it season the. they tell us what they want the people to think and here. willful -- this administration has been wrong about iraq and the consequences are in the sands of ramadi and men like mark who gave so much mark lee, their families are wondering, is it worth it? it was, b

charlie: have we -- bob gates agrees with you, i think -- we have not used the other levers of power that we have nearly as much. i think you defined soft power. we have not effectively used it not only in those places where we are in conflict -- iraq, afghanistan, but another places. joe: that's true, we have to use a wider range of his in the toolbox. the american government is constructed in such a way, and i speak as a former assistant secretary of defense, where we have a giant base. the giant at the pentagon, but state aid and other branches of the government did not have the same kind of resources. charlie: on the subject of america and is america in retreat. there is also this question raised by the president inviting the arab leaders who did not come for whatever reason, but this notion because of gridlock and other things, america is not trusted as much as it used to be and arab countries and allies have questions. joe: that is particularly true in the middle east. i think it reflects the problems that we have had, not just under this administration for the last 15 years. w

unfortunately, the obama administration which did make the good decision to keep bob gates on the job did not make the good decision to listen to him about either iraq or afghanistan, and made a number of other critical errors in both of those countries that in my eyes led directly to what is now the third war in iraq in my lifetime a war against the islamic state in iraq and syria. a war that -- i do look forward to jim being here. in his book jim argues that isis the islamic state in iraq and syria which i argue is al qaeda 3.0 that's how the war on terror has bon good and if on september 12 2001, someone told any of news the room-except the naval academy kids kids who were literally in diapers at that point, big diapers in some cases -- the kids up here -- that there would not be another significant attack on the united states, united states inert those 14-15 years would would have been delighted and saystonnished. in fact there have grant number of successes in the war against al qaeda and the broader war against radical islamic extremism, and i believe the drone war inside pakist

bob gates. >> i think she played a critical role in getting the much tougher sanctions on iran and getting particularly the russians and the chinese on board to allow these more severe sanctions to be put into place. we agreed in terms of the afghan serge. if anything she was tougher than i was on that. >> if it came down to it, could you see yourself voting for hillary clinton? >> i think it's a little earl tloi start throwing that up. i'm not sure that having a republican endorse you is the best thing at this point. >> let's turn to business. a back and forth trading day to close the week. let's go to london. at the end of the last week investigators were still digesting the earnings news. what are we expecting out of the markets this week? >> very good day to you. it's more of the same. it's piece of data by piece of data. one good piece of data, jobless claims. ppi. consumer confident, this week is about the same. i would take a look at the mortgage applications on wednesday. the key is the inflation data on friday. markets called to open flat at the start of trading today. the airline

values we hold dear. 17 former secretaries of defense and top military leaders including secretary bob gates and general david opepetreus, said there will be harmful consequences if we do not securities agreements. our allies and partners will question our commitments, doubt our resolve, and inevitably look to other partners. i don't often quote president obama. but it was hard to argue with him when he said the other day that democratic protectionist were just quote "making stuff up. " you don't make change through servants emma you don't make change through ignoring reality, the president said. republicans agreed. democrats opposing his ability make us seem afraid, afraid of challenges and opportunities. be afraid to compete fairly emma be afraid to lead. but we are americans, we don't need laws against competition. we build bridges to opportunity. we do not hide from history, we make history. we don't fear the world, we lead it. let's get on with it. let's stop trying to relive the past and build a better future. that is who we are. thank you for listening. >> this week on the communicato

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attention, it's one of the things i will ask scott walker about and one of the things i talked to bob gatesn friday. so far, i mean, bush having off, i think, to kind of a rocky start. you are right, though, he does have this tremendous fundraising ability, but right now, he's -- he has not pulled out in front of anybody much. it's pretty much anybody's game right now, i think. >> and, bob, what about chris christie, he's gone into the woodwork, too. is bridge gate too much for him to overcome? >> i think it had an impact. the shine is definitely off of chris christie right now. whether he can put that back together, you know, he's a terrific interview, he makes a very good speech. i think he has some ability to raise money. but there's no question that this whole thing over the bridge and blocking it off, you know, and tying up traffic, that really hit home with a lot of people and raised a lot of questions. so i'm another sure where he goes from here. . >> all right, bob schieffer. we appreciate your time. thank you. >> thanks, mike. >>> we have a lot ahead this sunday morning here on wus

presidency most notably by replacing the secretary of defense don rum felled, replaced by man named bob gatesand the democratic administration kept him in placement unfortunately the obama administration, which did make the good decision to keep bop gates on the job did not make the good decision to listen to him about either iraq or afghanistan. and made a number of other critical errors which led directly to what is now the third war in iraq in my lifetime war against the islamic state in iraq and syria a war that -- i do look forward to jim being here. in his book, jim argues that isis the islamic state in iraq and syria which i argue is al qaeda 3.0 steve asked how the war on terror has gone, and certainly if -- on september 12, 2001 someone had told any of news the room, except their naval academy kids who were in diapers at that point big diapers sometimes the kid up there, there would not be another significant attack on the united states territory in those 14-15 years we would have been delighted and astonished that was the case. in fact there have been a great number of successes in

bob gates is used to leading.s is not a guy used to sitting on the backseat and rubbing his hand and wondering what to do next. >> such a big change would have to be approved by a vote of scout leadership. >>> happening now, president obama is honoring jewish heritage month. today's event celebrates the contributions of jewish americans to american society of culture. it's been five years since obama held the first celebration of jewish heritage month at the white house. >>> quite a change over the last 24 hours. yesterday we had the steady rain. temperatures in the 50s and very little wind. in fact the reverse of all of those things today. it's going to be increasing windy as we go through the afternoon. very chilly tonight. weekend warming leading to potential heat wave next week. a lot of sunshine on those roads making for great travel conditions. it's 68 degrees now. it's going to keep going up. we're in the mid to upper 60s across much of the area right now. with the wind direction coming out of west northwes

. >> former defense secretary bob gates talking about basically the situation were isis terrorists on the ground in iraq. we're back with the panel. charles, what about this back and forth how the administration is playing it and the reality on the ground? >> the administration is delusional or cynical. i would hope cynical because, otherwise, we are in deep trouble. this is a tremendously defeat. this isn't only a geographic defeat the fact that fallujah is gone and ramadi is gone it's that the iraqi army once again ran. our whole idea is we are going to train the iraqi army. if you train people who want to fight but don't know how to fight well, that will work. and we actually had that opportunity in syria. obama disdained the syrian non-jihadist who opposed assad and said there were doctors, engineers bakers, but they wanted to fight. they were out in the street. they common demonstrated. they needed training. we gave them nothing and they got liquidated. with with iraq you have got the exact opposite. soldiers in name only who want to get paid with corrupt officers and sectarian o

bob gates said it right today they have no strategy at all in iraq and the middle east and they have the audacity to call it an overall success. >> developing at this hour horror on the high seas a norwegian cruise ship packed with thousands of people runs aground getting stuck for hours. jackie i bebanez is here with what went wrok. >> the norwegian dawn is awaiting inspection before it unboards. it literally came to oo screaming halt. >> we were having dinner and there was 10-15 seconds of shuttering and then you could feel the ship stopped. >> a passenger on board the dawn describing the moment the cruz ship lost power and crashed into a coral reef. panicked passengers flocked to the deck with whatever they could dairy to see what was going on p. >> what they told us was that we lost steering control. that's what the captain told us that's why we ran into the coral reef. >> none of the nearly 3500 passengers and crew on board were hurt and activities went on as scheduled pavenlgs tweeting out these photos of dive teams engineers and tug boats. it took nearly seven hours to free th

. >> schieffer: you know, foreign secretary of defense bob gates was on our show last week. he said that in his words most of the republican candidates for president he said i'm not very impressed so far. and he said, you know, they really don't have very much experience on foreign policy. what do you think about the current republican field? >> obviously lindsey graham understands, he's been boots on the ground, he's air force colonel all this time and kabul. i'd say that, didn't have a lot of foreign policy experience but he surrounded himself with the smartest guys and people in america. i think that the next president whoever he is can do that as well. >> schieffer: do you think hillary clinton if she should win the nomination and be elected, do you think she would be a good president if, is she qualified? >> i'm not here to judge her qualifications. i will be supporting whoever the republican nominee is. but i do believe it's legitimate question to say what were the accomplishments of her four years as secretary of state there. are still many unanswered questions about

bob gates is used to leading.is not a guy who's used to sitting on the backseat and rubbing his hands and wondering what to do next. >> pete williams nbc news washington. >> and here are your weather headlines for memorial day week end. we're looking dry. weather at the beaches looking good. after that it will turn hot and humid. if you are heading to the beach, the water temperature no matter where you're going looking cold 58 degrees, very chilly. and also chilly during the day on saturday high temperatures at the beaches only in the mid-60s but full sunshine. you'll need the sunscreen everyday if you'll be outside. gras et news there, no thunderstorms in the forecast. sunday mid-70s so we warm up. monday a little bit more in the way of cloud cover but mostly sunny skies and a high temperature on memorial day of 78 degrees. >>> sounds great. a lot of you will be headed down to the national mall this weekend for the annual memorial day concert. the concert is held every year on the west lawn of the capitol. actor

now, i thought former secretary of defense bob gates over the weekend said it pretty clearly. said i'm a republican, but none of the republican candidates have any experience whatsoever in national security and that bothers me. i don't know how any of those people with their limited background in national security could tell the difference when intelligence was right or wrong. it took me a long time in order to figure out how to do that. presidents need to have that intuition and staff who can figure out when the intelligence is right and when it's wrong. >> thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >>> coming up, what chris christie just said on fox news about iraq and the george washington bridge and elizabeth warren flew across the country this weekend to talk about the importance of the 2016 election and attack the republican presidential candidates without saying a word about the only democratic party declared candidate, hillary clinton. and comedian here to talk about his new show and his visits to david letterman's late night show. , scott. ez seed reall

former defense secretary bob gates. >> i think that it's -- i think it is a serious loss. >> some iraqiroops had to be air lifted out of the city. >> police are abandoning positions one area after another. >> reporter: in the end there was no help from the central government in baghdad. >> the iraqi army didn't have a good sense of what was happening in the city. clearly the islamic state had been making inroads over the preceding weeks and months. and ramadi was a foundation rotting from within. >> reporter: shia militiamen are gathering outside ramadi for a possible counterattack. sunni tribes are asking for arms. despite ramadi, the white house is insisting they are making progress. >> as with any military effort, there will be days of progress, and there are going to be periods of set back. >> trending in the wrong direction libya which isis continues to use as a safe haven and where there is no reliable partner to help fight isis on the ground. >> barbara starr reporting there. u.s. secretary of state john kerry says he is absolutely confident the isis victory in ramadi will be rev

bob gates is used to leading.is not a guy who is used to sitting on the back seat rubbing his hands, wondering what to do next. >> that was pete williams reporting. such a big change would have to be approved by a vote of the scout leadership. >>> we have enough breaking news. the civil air patrol has found the private plane that crashed yesterday. now you're seeing live pictures from our helicopter. the pilot flying from concord to reed hill airport and did not make it. the crews are on the site eight miles east of livermore. the cessna had only the pilot on board. he or she died in the crash. we'll have much more on the story tonight at 5:00 and 6:00. >>> a lot of talking. rand paul took the senate stage for 10.5 hours two nights ago. >> it was sort of a filibuster meant to stop the nsa's collection of our phone records. so did it work? here is nbc bay area's sam brock with a reality check. >> reporter: rand paul's twitter time line helped fuel the hype for a heart-pounding filibuster. there is plenty of #stand

. >>> boy scout leader bob gates took a bold step calling for end of ban on gay leaders in the organizatione director of the groups scouts for equality. he is himself an established eagle scout, highest rank. he's the son of lesbian mothers and activist for lbgt community. thanks for coming on the show. we were talking on camera. were you surprised gates did this? you said he was more likely not to touch this issue in the public spotlight for some time going back to jesse helms in the senate. >> a year ago when he took this job as president of the boy scouts gates said he did not want to litigate his position as president. he didn't see a this environment coming. we see a lot in terms of new york where the new york council hired an openly gay adult leader n. colorado boy scouts are having pending legal action. >> the recommendation is not ultimately not up to him. this has to be implemented by scout leaders. how does that look like? can you see change this is states like massachusetts versus alabama? >> we don't know the policy they're going to put forward. we know dr. gates says they need

donald rumsfeld was a man i believe is the best secretary defends the nation ever had in and named bob gates who was so good and a democratic the democratic administration they kept him in place. unfortunately the obama administration, which which did make a good decision to keep him on the job they didn't make a good decision to listen to him about iraq or afghanistan and made a number of other critical errors in both of those countries that in my eyes led directly to what is now the third war in iraq in my lifetime a war against the islamic state in iraq and blank syria. he argues that it is al qaeda 3.0. steve asked how the war on terror has gone. september 12, 2001 if someone had told any of us in the room except for the naval academy kids that were in diapers at that point, big diapers in some cases, that they were not having another significant attack on the united states territory in those 14 or 15 years we would have been delighted and astonished if that was the case and in fact there had been a great number of successes in the war against al qaeda and the broad war against radical i

former defense secretary bob gates. >> i think that it is a serious loss. >> some iraqi troops had to be air lifted out of the city. >> police are abandoned positions one area after another. >> in the end, there was no help from the central government in baghdad. >> the iraqi army didn't have a good sense of what was happening in the city. clearly, the islamic state had been making inroads over the proceeding weeks and months and ramadi was a foundation rotting from within. >> shia militiamen are gathering outside of ramadi for a possible counterattack. sunni tribes are asking for arms. despite ramadi the white house is insisting they are making progress. >> as with any military effort there will be days of progress and there are going to be periods of setback. >> trending in the wrong direction, libya. which isis continues to use as a safe haven, and where there is no reliable partner to help fight isis on the ground. there's no word yet if any fresh intelligence that was gained during that weekend raid in syria against that isis commander and his wife. the u.s. clearly hoping to fin

them, governor scott walker, of wisconsin i also, friday, tracked down former secretary of defense, bob gates, who served in both the bush and the obama administration, he work for eight presidents, nic i asked him what did he think of the foreign policy credentials of the candidates that he has seen so far. very candid. he said, well, frank lip, he wasn't impressed with any of them thus far. very interesting interview adds perspective to all of. >> this so that's the other part that we will be talking about this morning. eight presidents, yes he should have a lot of perspective. looking forward to that one. bosh, thank you. >> okay, nicole. >> 8:43 right now just warm weekend, so far, right hazy, humid, and right now carol is coming back to tell us more about our chances for rain ahead in the forecast. also as david letterman prepares to end his incredible career as host of the late show, he is talking about his time behind the desk. we'll have sneak peak at his interview with jane pauley coming up next. >> david letterman ending his career with star studded guest list, tells us despite all

. >> scouts have been part of your life since you were 8 years old, so your reaction to what bob gates to say there is what? >> it's encouraging to see that they agree with us that the current course is unsustainable and it must be changed. >> okay. but are you concerned at all about the proposal that individual troops be able to decide for themselves whether to allow gay leaders instead of putting out a broad spectrum you know nationwide international doctrine for that? >> yeah i think it's problematic. they are trying to remove the national body from legal jeopardy in this decision and dissolving that ability to local councils and sponsoring organizations. i think that that puts them at risk and that the better leadership move would be to make a blanket policy change that is inclusive of everyone. >> there is a concern and comes from, i guess, funding because i believe 70% of local troops are supported by faith-based groups some of which have already expressed concern about the change in policy. how might that affect the conversation? >> every organization has to be sensitive to thei

among other things, bob gates who had been very critical of the plan very, very critical as he wrote in his memoir, very upset about what happened, he might start talking, some of you might start talking, they would start blabbing and you lose the edge, mr. president. this is reluctant time and presidents do strange things before reelection. we know that. and so obama delivered a speech that was written by his political people and not cleared by the national security team. it was a speech -- i can't begin to take a of obama state of mind. as far as i know, he got a speech and believes everything he read. he was believing what he was red. i'm not accusing him of lying but what was said was a lie. and in the speech, he lay down the foundation for an enormous scramble over the next weeks the next days and weeks they had to re-create a new story. he said, as you said in each reduction, there was a firefight and obama was -- and bin laden was killed in it. that was the idea to cover it was an out and out murder. he also said in the fight that a treasure trove of material was recovered. we

i think bob gates has a different number. you need trainers at the battalion level.y to allow the iraqi security forces to not only take back anbar but defeat mosul. >> we don't want them in this battle? >> i hope not because if shiite militias can drive them out, i believe you're going -- at the end of the day you're in a pickle here. the longer we train them to be a national army the more influence iran has. to drive them out of iraq you have to deal with syria. if you don't deal with syria, they'll keep coming across the border. it's a complete mess. the most likely place for america to get attacked from i think, is syria. two of your fellow colleagues have been asked whether we should go in. is it because iraq is back in the news? we heard secretary gates say with bob schieffer he's not very impressed by some of foreign policy answers. >> i think the question is did we make a blunder here to create the problems as we see it. if we had left iraq alone, would we be okay. >> you keep coming back to that. >> i agree. 9/11 was two years before iraq. radical islamism w

. >> rose: more so and in fact, bob gates was here last night ansaid, said so. >> said so, yes. i saw him this morning. said so. but if you compare her to george w. bush you would not call her hawkish. i mean i am just looking at the broad range but he think when you look -- when you look at hillary, and you look at hillary and you compare -- you look at the pivot to asia, right, and you look at economic statecraft and you look at saying i am not going to preach human right to these people because they are bankers and it doesn't really work and you look at the effort to engage in a russia reset and look at her unwillingness. >> rose:. >> it went badly, look i am not suggesting every policy she put in place worked. i am suggesting there was the beginnings of a -- >> rose: money ball strategy. >> money ball strategy. interest any now she is a candidate, trance pacific partnership which was hers she is like i am not sure i am in favor of that. and i am not sure that was really me. >> rose: if we don't do the trance pacific partnership, what are the people all around the world going

i think bob gates has a different number.e the iraqis don't. somewhere around 10,000 troops what the general says we need to build capacity to allow the iraqi security forces not only to take back anbar but eventually go to mosul. most effective fighting force in iraq is shia militias controlled by iran and that is sad. >> we don't want them in the battle? >> i hope not. they can go into sunni anbar province, i'm afraid a blood letting. worse than having isis at these continued pictures. >> at end of the day you're in a pickle here. the longer we delay training iraqi security forces to be a national army the more influence iran has. and to drive them out of iraq you've got to deal with syria because if you don't deal with syria, they'll keep coming back across the border. this is a complete mess. does it matter to us? yes. the most likely place for america to get attacked from i think, is syria. >> two of your fellow republicans, jeb bush marco rubio, have been asked about whether we should have gone into iraq in the first pl

and that comes out of your -- in fact bob gates when he was secretary of defense once said that the -3 administration. the problem we have we don't invest in soft power. and we need both. >> $550 billion pentagon budget do we need more? >> i don't think we need more if we could allocate it the way we want. the problem is congress keeps allocating the budget to things which suits their needs as opposed to our defense needs. if i could do it myself or some expert could do it you might be able to cut the against budget. but if it goes through the congress and you add a lot of things like health and breast can sister cancer and other things are put in the defense budget, you need more. >> every 20 years we find a new enemy that will overtake us. in the '60s, the soviets were going to democrat nature us. in the '80s, it was japan. now it's china.nature us. in the '80s, it was japan. now it's china. what is your take on the latest and greatest to overtake america, china? >> the united states has a long history of thinking their opponents are 10-feet tall and it turns out that china won't be

>> listen you've already seen bob gates book that was very critical you've seen leon panetta that was even more critical. you've seen now mike morell, you've seen talking out on sunday talk shows including fox news sunday and hour show general michael flynn or former dia head. you've seen a lot already. and i think you're going to see more. that paint this picture of ad mirrors that has a view and president that has a view and perhaps they're not taking cues from intelligence officials on a host of issues. >> it was very much a political view gears towards the 2012 election. bin laden is dead, general motors is alive. and then that was followed up with isis is the jv team unwillingness to accept the magnitude of the threat. that is my bottom line. yours? >> yeah, well i think that is a fair assessment and people make that assessment they point to a number of things that back that up. and moore can say this factors into benghazi as welling when you have the white house telling susan rice to go out there and say something about an anti-islam video that was never in the cia's talking poi

bob gates is used to leading.sed to sitting on the backseat and rubbing his hands and wondering what to do next. >> joining me now is someone who know this is story very well. greg bourque was fired as his son's scout master in 2012 because of his sexual orientation. he joins me from kentucky. what a pleasure to see you. >> thank you for having me. >> at the center of this fight, let me get your reaction to what gates said yesterday. >> as i've been telling people i feel like the berlin wall came down yesterday. it's a monumental change historic. when we look back a few years from now this will be the defining moment of the modernization of the boy scouts of america and the mutual towards full indplugs the boy scouts. >> as you know, the berlin wall didn't come down overnight. it took time before during and after to be down. the policy won't change overnight. scout leadership needs to approve it. how do you think that process will go? >> what i think people don't realize is there's been a civil war going on in the

. >> we will ask bob gates.lan. >> let's have you weigh in on this. hillary clinton and her attorney, david kendall who is a famous attorney down there in the town you're sitting in, have been clear. when she was secretary of state, hillary clinton had one e-mail address. that was hdr 22@clinton.com. "the new york times" published a number of e-mails between the former secretary of state and sidney blumenthal. her long time advisor. it turns out she had a second e-mail, even though we were told under no circumstances did she have another one. she had another one. >> this is just another example of "fox and friends" piling on mrs. clinton. when she said one e-mail address, it depends the meaning of the word address. this is clearly -- this is not what she initially meant. you are completely unfair to this poor woman. she's been castigated. are any of us surprised? the clintons will do what the clintons will do until there's the evidentiary equivalent of the blue dress. >> blue dress? >> they will get away with wh

bob gates said over the weekend, maybe special forces, about 1,000 working with iraqis may be the mostt's the mission and we're not supporting them -- i'm not there. so i can't give an informed opinion. all i know the job becomes a lot easier when all hands are working together. >> you were singled out for your service in 2015 from one incident in particular in 2009. before we get into specifics about that. we are talking about americans from all walks of life, and what makes them proud. what makes you proud to be an american? >> i am proud to be an american because my children. i believe that they're growing up in a country -- i've seen other countries, of course. they're growing up in a country to where their opportunities are endless. i see nothing but growth and possibility with them. and plus the fact, that me being a deployed service member, simple things like fresh clean running water, the ability to voice your opinion or protest the current administration or support the current administration. that makes me feel great. that makes me feel that what i did overseas and what the se

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bob gates is used to leading. this is not a guy used to sitting on the back of the seat and rubbing his hands and wondering what to do next. >> reporter: such a big change would have to be approved by a vote of the scout leadership. the mormon church says it will carefully consider how such a change would affect its century-long association with the scouts. >> pete williams thank you very much. >>> natalie's joining us now with more on the oil spill out in california. >> yeah. not good news because officials are now saying it could take months to determine what caused that huge oil spill in southern california. nbc ease hallie jackson has the latest. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. today, guys the size of this cleanup will nearly double with 300 more responders arriving to help. but the big question is still out there. how did this spill happen in the first place? this morning unanswered questions about what caused this pipeline to break. >> they will take that piece of pipe. they will have it insp

but it leaders lead, bob gates is used to leading. this is not a guy who is used to sitting on the back seat and rubbing his hands and wondering what to do next. >> reporter: such a big change would have to be approved by a vote of the scout leadership, the morman church says it will carefully consider how such a change would affect its century long association with the boy scouts. >> pete williams, thank you. >>> natalie is joining us with more on the oil spill in california. >> officials now saying it could take months to determine what caused that huge oil spill in southern california, and nbc's hallie jackson has the latest. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. today the cleanup will nearly double in size with 300 more responders a i riving to help out with what's now a 24/7 operation. but there is that question out there. how did this spill happen in the first place? this morning unanswered questions about what caused this pipeline to break. >> they will take that piece of pipe, they will have it inspected by a third party, t

and the columnist who broke the deflate-gate story. bob, you say that based on the report, it's fair to say that they cheated and have been for a while. >> you go back to spyigate now you look at this and if i'm the baltimore ravens who the patriots beat in the previous game to the colts game i'm furious. if i'm anybody who's lost to the patriots i'm absolute lay lutlutely furious, especially in bad weather games, where it makes it easier for the quarterback to grip it and throw it. so it would be ridiculous to believe this was a one off situation. clearly this has been going on for quite some time. >> you wrote before the super bowl that they have already lost the game that mattered. what does this mean for brady and the patriots? >> is this a big hit. locally, people are bending themselves into pretzels to prove they don't have anything on them and this looks really bad and when bob talks about systematic cheating it does make you wonder about that because of the history and we know this organization will do anything to win and leave no

. >> pam kahanic began working here in 1988, the same year she married her husband, bob kahanic, the prison's gate manager supervisor. >> we first met in 1994 and got married in may of 1998. pam works in the garment factory. she's on the other side of the facility from where i'm at. every now and then i'll go over there during my lunch hour and we'll have a lunch break together. >> but on september 12, 2007, bob had to attend a meeting about 100 miles from the prison. >> well, it was about 3:00. and we were going to shut down at 3:30. so i had my paper work. and i thought, well, i'll run it over here real quick and get ready for the next day. >> as kahanic made her way through the nearly empty factory, an off-duty inmate shipping clerk appeared at the door. >> he was an inmate that everybody trusted. which i know you shouldn't trust any of them, but you have to trust them to a certain point because you're working with them every day. >> the inmate said he needed to get something from one of the sewing stations. >> this was the machine. and i reached down and opened the drawer just like this and he