subscriber over which they have no control and for content in which they have no interest. >> host: bob gessner, we've talked about some of the issues you face with the fcc and with washington, but what about with the state of ohio and the city of massillon? >> guest: gosh. my local franchises, we have about two dozen local franchises, no problem. we're local. we have 165 local employees, you know? my family's been involved there for a -- 175 years, so we focus on those local communities, and we don't really have any issues there. the state of ohio is one of only a handful in the country that have statewide franchising. so the state of ohio is our franchising authority. we appeal to them for our local franchise. but because of a, i guess an abundance of competition with, especially in the television market with directv and dish and at&t covering pretty much the whole state, the tate -- the state assumes that competition will dictate the winners and losers, so they don't feel the need to be intimately involved in what we do on a day-to-day basis. we pay a franchise fee to our local communities,