joining me now is nhs doctor, our top doctor bob gill and director of the great nhs heist.ning dr. forjoining this morning dr. gill . how do i forjoining this morning dr. gill. how do i mean the headunesin gill. how do i mean the headlines in all the newspapers this morning are just utterly depressing . i mean, nhs chaos , depressing. i mean, nhs chaos, we have been saying for many years now, but this it feels like it's a new urgency as the nhs on a knife edge. i mean how dire is the situation for the nhs at the moment? well, just to give you one statistic, in october of this year alone , october of this year alone, there were over 40,000 people waiting for a hospital bed. 12 hours a decision to them had been made. now on record figures , we know that for every 80 patients waiting under those circumstances , there will be one circumstances, there will be one preventable death. so we are in new territory and people like myself, campaigners have been warning for years now that the nhs is being deliberately defunded , restructured and chaos defunded, restructured and chaos we