host: bob gottlieb has edited every word you have ever written. he is 87 years old. robert: yes.ost: is he still active, and has he seen what you've written until now? robert: of the fifth book? no. i don't ever show bob, i have never shown bob or any other editor anything until the book is done. i don't show anyone a word of what i have written until the book is done. ina's the only person i allow to read the book as i go along. host: you have written about the difficulty of making money in your early years. i want to ask you about your later years. about when you became a success. you may not want to talk about this, but there was a journal article that said you published at least 1.5 million books. would you agree with that? robert: that is the publishers' figure. they know how many copies they sold. host: let's say you got four dollars a book. that is $6 million. when in your life did you become a financial success and change the way you live? because you had some very difficult years where you had to sell the house to survive. how much of that can you tell us, so that if som

and she read the book, and she put me together with bob gottlieb, who has been my editor for 48 yearsfights, of better because he is a very strong-willed person. what he is also a great editor for me t. the power broker was never any sort of a bestseller, i mean, it is now, i think it is in 55th books,g, but the johnson i didn't know how long they were going to take, so what is to do was a lot of lecturing. i really didn't like doing that, but you can make money doing that. books,ly, the last three they have all been number one "new yorks on the times" list, so obviously, things have changed now. but they changed to gradually. host: when were you first paid to give a speech, and what triggered that. paid, at probably was the beginning i used to get paid for hundred dollars. realized,ddenly people seem to think, i know this because there were organizations who would invite me back. organizations, conventions, things like that. there were real electricity's out there. for a while, i gave a lot of lectures -- there were real lectures fees out there. for a while, i give a lot of lectures.