host: bob greenstein? guest: it is typical. kevin and i do agree on the long-term sustainable activities. we need to act on it. but that is that -- if that is all we do, it will not happen very immediately. if we start cutting government programs, medicare, medicaid, and others deeply right now while the economy is still weak, we will lose more jobs. the thing we need to do, i know i do not think it is politically feasible, we need a package where we do some jobs creation element on a temporary basis. i would provide some assistance says state and local government do not keep firing teachers and police. and probably we should extend through another year a reduction in the payroll tax, an additional bit of payroll benefits. but i would couple that with a long-term fiscal package that does not begin right away, but in a couple of years from now than you put some additional demand in the economy now. businesses need more customers and they are not gone up -- not going to hire more people. but i think you need both critics host: --

host: bob greenstein? guest: it is typical. kevin and i do agree on the long-term sustainable activities. we need to act on it. but that is that -- if that is all we do, it will not happen very immediately. if we start cutting government programs, medicare, medicaid, and others deeply right now while the economy is still weak, we will lose more jobs. the thing we need to do, i know i do not think it is politically feasible, we need a package where we do some jobs creation element on a temporary basis. i would provide some assistance says state and local government do not keep firing teachers and police. and probably we should extend through another year a reduction in the payroll tax, an additional bit of payroll benefits. but i would couple that with a long-term fiscal package that does not begin right away, but in a couple of years from now than you put some additional demand in the economy now. businesses need more customers and they are not gone up -- not going to hire more people. but i think you need both critics host: --

host: going away to speaking about bob greenstein, he mispronounced your name a little bit. >> he was talking about some guy bernstein who is not on the set. because what he attributed to have my views actually actually aren't. in every area where the market is the better place to do it, i think we need public schools. i don't think -- you have to figure out what is the appropriate role for the public sector and private sector? the caller also indicated something else that i think is an issue in terms of many policymakers, people understandably have difficulty distinguishing short-term, especially during recessions. in the short term when the economy goes down and consumers aren't buying, you need the government to do more to help a recession from turning into a depression. you need a lot of that expansion to be temporary and go away when the economy recovers and in a long-term, we have fiscal payout and we need to raise more revenue primarily by closing unproductive tax breaks and subsidies that are in the tax code. whether you are closing unsubsidied things to taxpayers or you are r

we're joined by bob greenstein and kevin from the national enterprise institute. workplace issues affecting women and families. later, [unintelligible] "washington journal peer " live on c-span. later, job creation and the economy. we will hear from the economic advisers. coverage gets under way at noon eastern. >> on this nomination, the ayes are 72, the nays are 60. >> donald verilli -- verrilli replaces elena kagan. it is washington, your way. >> next, former officials talk about the growing number of global cyber attacks. this conference is hosted by the center for jiechi dick and international studies. this panel is 90 minutes. >> now they can hear us. >> good morning, we are here today to talk about cyber incidents. i am going to turn it over to jim. >> you should have introduced yourself. what we are going to do here today is bring out the cyber incidents. a lot of our foreign friends would do something, so we have had advice. what we are going to do here today, we have goals that are a little bit different from the normal discussions of cyber security. the